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Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
Phillip Hayes and Jason Miller
229 episodes
9 hours ago
In this episode, Jason and Makenzie have a conversation around the meaning and relevance of assurance in the context of an M&A transaction and more specifically in an ESOP transaction. They discuss who needs assurance and why - whether it be in the form of a financial statement audit, surety bond, fairness opinion, or simply advice from your providers.
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In this episode, Jason and Makenzie have a conversation around the meaning and relevance of assurance in the context of an M&A transaction and more specifically in an ESOP transaction. They discuss who needs assurance and why - whether it be in the form of a financial statement audit, surety bond, fairness opinion, or simply advice from your providers.
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Management
Episodes (20/229)
Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP31 - Assurance in Action: What It Means for Your ESOP Journey
In this episode, Jason and Makenzie have a conversation around the meaning and relevance of assurance in the context of an M&A transaction and more specifically in an ESOP transaction. They discuss who needs assurance and why - whether it be in the form of a financial statement audit, surety bond, fairness opinion, or simply advice from your providers.
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10 hours ago
47 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP30 - ESOPs as a Growth Strategy- Interview with Chris Fredericks
For the final episode of the Employee Ownership Month series, Jason interviews with Chris Fredericks, President and CEO of Empowered Ventures. Jason and Chris both discuss the power of employee ownership and how it can help expand a business, attract talent, and build more resilient companies. Their conversation highlights company growth, finding competitive advantage through a company's culture, and why employee ownership continues to matter in an AI world. This episode is the last part of t...
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6 days ago
40 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP29 - A View from the Inside: Interview with Kimberly McCourtney of the NCEO
In this episode we explore what life is really like for leadership after a company becomes employee owned. Guest Kimberly McCourtney, former HR Executive of an ESOP company and currently the Peer Networking Manager at NCEO, shares her firsthand experience navigating the cultural and organizational shifts that follow the transition. Together, we discuss how leadership roles evolve when everyone has a stake, what an “ownership mindset” looks like in day-to-day operations, and why transparency a...
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1 week ago
42 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP28 - Owner’s Voices
In this episode. Makenzie interviews leaders from five diverse ESOP companies as they share their paths to employee ownership. Each organization offers a unique perspective on the transition process, the challenges and opportunities along the way, and the lasting impact ownership has had on their culture and performance.
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2 weeks ago
24 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP27 - What is Employee Ownership: Interview with Corey Rosen of the NCEO
In this episode, Jason interviews Corey Rosen of the National Center for Employee Ownership. Corey tells Jason a story to unpack what employee ownership really looks like – the hopes, the doubts, and the decisions that define the first step of the journey. The episode is designed as an educational resource to make the concept of employee ownership approachable – simple, clear, and human. If you’ve ever wondered as an owner how to move from curiosity to confidence, this is a great place to sta...
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3 weeks ago
55 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP26 - Employee Ownership Month Special Announcement
In this podcast episode, Jason announces a special release schedule for Employee Ownership Month. For the month of October, the podcast will feature special guests, educational resources, and ESOP insights. Be sure to return each Friday for the next installment!
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1 month ago
4 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP25 - The Language of ESOPs
In this episode, Jason tells a campfire story to illustrate the learning process of the ‘ESOP language’ and its importance on your Journey to an ESOP and Beyond. He discusses the importance of language in communication, highlighting its role in conveying ideas and facilitating collaboration.
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1 month ago
29 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP24 - Accounting for Leveraged ESOP Transactions
In this episode, Makenzie breaks down a leveraged ESOP transaction and the resulting impacts to a company's financial statements. This episode highlights the journal entries required for a simplified, leveraged ESOP transaction in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles including common mistakes to avoid.
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1 month ago
19 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP23 - Makenzie Wirth Interview-Journey to an ESOP Newest Team Member!
On this episode, Jason Miller interviews Makenzie Wirth, the newest member of our Journey to an ESOP team. From a career in public accounting to her current role in ESOP advisory, Makenzie discusses her journey in learning about employee ownership over the last several months. The podcast highlights her fresh perspective on ESOPs and employee ownership and includes a sneak peak of what she will bring to the podcast in future episodes.
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1 month ago
29 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP22 - Astrophysics & ESOPs: A Natural Fit
In this episode Jason flies a little too close to the sun when discussing the impact of a company’s structure on its ability to harness the power of employee engagement. The discussion covered how employee engagement impacts business success, with comparisons to different types of civilizations and their energy usage, including the idea of harnessing this energy effectively. Overall, this is episode provides recommendations for improving employee engagement levels within companies, emphasizin...
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2 months ago
31 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP21 - Industry Spotlight: Creative Agencies – The Fraction Collective
In this episode, Jason Miller interviews Miriam Agrell and Kavita Vora from The Fraction Collective. Throughout the conversation, they highlight different ways that creative agencies and ESOPs intersect. The group discusses the reality of succession planning and how ESOPs are an attractive option for business owners who are looking for an exit strategy.
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2 months ago
52 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP20 - Where Do I Begin?
In this podcast episode, Jason discusses the best ways to approach succession planning. He focuses on tackling succession with intention and covers common obstacles that stand in the way of owners achieving their vision for a successful ownership transition.
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2 months ago
17 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP19 – Great Game of Business Interview-Steve Baker
In this episode, the podcast interviews Steve Baker, Vice President of Great Game of Business, Inc. Steve gives insight into the importance of financial literacy in building a company’s value through a culture of accountability, the dignity of equity ownership, and the hope of a financially successful future. To join us at the Great Game of Business Conference in September, please follow the link below! Learn more about the Great Game of Business Conference: https://www.greatgame...
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3 months ago
46 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP18 - Indiana Jones - Will the ESOP Make A Difference For Your Employees
This episode uses the classic film, Indiana Jones, as our feature film. The podcast utilizes this retro film as an example of something that never goes out of style-just like business owners helping their employees! The question the podcast discusses is if an ESOP is the best option for your company and people? This is a common question on anyone’s journey to an ESOP. The podcast attempts to help listeners asses where they are in company development of employee engagement.
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3 months ago
43 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP17 Interview with John Burgess What Owners Can Expect After Forming an ESOP
In this podcast episode, ESOP attorney John Burgess returns to share what business owners should anticipate in the months following an ESOP transaction. From governance changes to employee communication and administrative next steps, Burgess offers practical insights to help new ESOP companies navigate the critical post-formation period with confidence.
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3 months ago
48 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP16 - Kon Tiki - IRS Subsidy for ESOPs
On this podcast episode we reference the movie Kon Tiki, which documents the journey of a Norwegian scientist on a raft built with natural materials and proves the ancient peoples sailed to the Polynesia islands. The trip took 4300 miles in ocean currents without a motor. The podcast uses the concept of “wind in the sails” to review the tax benefits that ESOP companies experience. Specifically, this episode dives into defining an S-Corporation ESOP, which means that either in part...
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3 months ago
38 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP15 - Hines Pool & Spa - ESOP Experience with Andy Hines
On this podcast episode, we interview Andy Hines - founder of Hines Pool and Spa from Austin, TX. Hines Pool and Spa is an excellent example of a successful approach to an ESOP transaction. Andy shares his experience with researching ESOPs in relation to Private Equity. Like many companies, Andy found that the ESOP was a better alternative for not just the company, but for himself and his family. Andy shares some of the lessons he learned early in the process, providing some pract...
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4 months ago
42 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP14 - Behind Enemy Lines - Dealing with the Buy-Side on an ESOP Transaction
On this episode, we dig into a better understanding of the buy side team for an ESOP transaction. This would include the Trustee, Evaluation Firm, and their legal counsel. As you invite them into the ESOP deal, they are in a sense the enemy and there are certain aspects of working with them in this process that are important to understand so that you can be better prepared for your transaction and your journey to an ESOP.
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4 months ago
41 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP13 - Third Party Administration for ESOPs - with Tom Roback at Blue Ridge
As the podcast discussed at the beginning of the new season- we wanted to give a strong overview of the Third-Party Administrators (TPAs) role in the ESOP. On this episode, the podcast interviews Tom Roback with Blue Ridge. The episode looks at the trends in the ESOP community and the consolidation of TPA companies. We look to answer what challenges with TPA firms are currently being experienced and how TPAs (particularly Blue Ridge) are looking to overcome those to provide a strong par...
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5 months ago
43 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
EP12 - Power Rangers - Roll Up Strategy for ESOPs
Power Rangers are an excellent example of strength in combining multiple superheroes on one team. On this episode we consider: What is your company worth? What happens when we combine it with another then another? The value could significantly change for better multiples and for multiple reasons. One of those would be a larger combined EBITDA with a reduction in redundant expenses. Another could be the risk profile is reduced given larger geographic and higher diversificatio...
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5 months ago
36 minutes

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
In this episode, Jason and Makenzie have a conversation around the meaning and relevance of assurance in the context of an M&A transaction and more specifically in an ESOP transaction. They discuss who needs assurance and why - whether it be in the form of a financial statement audit, surety bond, fairness opinion, or simply advice from your providers.