This Episode is the commentary of JohnChat_EP23 by NotebookLM Deep Dive. In EP23, we invite Chen You-Wen to share insights and experiences from their pilgrimage to Spain in July 2024. Unlike typical media or influencer narratives, we explore lesser-discussed aspects of the journey, focusing on the mindset shifts and mental adjustments needed along the way. Whether you're planning your own pilgrimage or simply curious, we hope this conversation offers fresh inspiration! 這集是用NotebookLM Deep Dive介紹【John聊】的第23集，該集邀請陳宥文來分享他們在 2024 年 7 月前往西班牙朝聖之旅的生活點滴與經驗。與一般媒體或網紅的分享不同，我們將深入探討較少被提及的面向，聊聊在朝聖路上如何調整心態與想法，以適應旅途中的挑戰與收穫。希望這段對話能帶給你新的啟發，無論你是否計劃踏上這條路！ -- Hosting provided by SoundOn