This podcast is the Commentary of JohnChat_EP41 that features a conversation between a host and his student, Han Lin, focusing on the transformative power of sports and coaching, particularly for youth from disadvantaged backgrounds or those in correctional facilities. Han Lin, a doctoral candidate with a sports background, shares his experiences and observations regarding how a coach's commitment can profoundly influence a student's life trajectory, contrasting his own path with that of former teammates who faced challenges like poor family function and academic struggles. The discussion also critically examines the overemphasis on competitive success in sports, arguing instead for the role of athletics in fostering personal growth and providing social support, especially for children who may have learning disabilities or behavioral challenges. Ultimately, the speakers advocate for a broader view of sports that prioritizes well-being and self-improvement over merely achieving medals or professional careers, asserting that such an approach can significantly contribute to societal happiness and growth. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

這一集是《John聊》第41集，特別在高雄的一間商旅錄製，因為隔天我們就要前往矯正學校──「明陽中學」，陪伴孩子們參加一場特別的「虛擬單車校慶比賽」。本集的嘉賓翰霖，是我優秀的學生，如今已是特教博士候選人。這集我們聊的不只是運動，而是生命。 家庭與成長 翰霖從小就是手球隊的體育班學生。三十歲回頭看，他驚覺自己過去的遭遇，竟與現在在矯正學校教書的經驗深深呼應。許多體育班孩子，學業程度只有「5C」──連小學高年級都不一定達到。幸運的是，他的母親用「先讀書才能打球」的嚴格方式，讓他養成了學習習慣。這份堅持，成了他後來能走下去的力量。 人生的分岔路 翰霖談到兩位隊友： 一位球技極佳，卻因家庭破碎、生活失序，差點迷失；最後靠著教練的關心與引導，走上志願役軍職，如今有了穩定的家庭。 另一位則因缺乏管教，逐漸被幫派吸收，最後因販毒鋃鐺入獄。 他深刻體會到：當學業與運動都找不到成就感時，若家庭也無法給予支持，孩子就很可能被外在的「溫暖」拉走。 運動的真正價值 我們一致認為，運動的價值，不只是奪牌、榮耀。它是一種力量，一種能接住孩子的力量。 在矯正學校裡，孩子們常因老師的一句關心而紅了眼眶，因為在過去，他們早就被放棄。 而在特殊教育現場，哪怕是「從10分進步到20分」，都值得肯定。因為那背後，是努力、是希望。 幸福台灣的運動夢 運動應該是每個人都能找到位置的舞台。它能開展人生的廣度，也能讓生命多一分滿意與幸福。 我們期待，用運動為孩子們建構一個「幸福台灣」，讓他們不只看到輸贏，更看到自己生命的可能。 因此，我建議運動部不應該只將目光集中在奪牌或「壯大台灣」的口號上，而是推廣用運動營造「幸福台灣」，讓每個人找到適合讓自己更幸福的運動。 -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

This episode of JohnChat features a live recording of the host’s speech delivered at the Sports Administration’s training workshop for university sports directors. The topic was “Future Strategies and Development of Adapted Sports in Higher Education Institutions.” The purpose was to introduce directors and administrators of university sports offices to the key issues that should be considered when promoting adapted sports on campus. Key Content and Highlights: 1. The Necessity and Legal Basis of Adapted Sports Sports equality as a core goal: The primary mission of establishing the Department of Sports Development is to ensure that persons with disabilities have the right to sports. Equality in sports must go beyond slogans and be genuinely experienced by people with disabilities. Rising numbers of students with disabilities in higher education: Despite declining overall enrollment, the number of special education students (with disabilities) is increasing yearly, now exceeding 16,000 and moving toward 20,000. Legal obligation: Article 38 of the Special Education Act clearly states that adapted physical education is a necessary service for students. Failure to provide this service, or exempting students from it, essentially constitutes a violation of the law. Inclusion and human rights model: Taiwan promotes inclusion, seeking to integrate students with disabilities into the community. Outdated charity or medical models should be abandoned in favor of the social and human rights models, which emphasize the joy and rights of students with disabilities to participate in PE, sports teams, and athletic events. 2. Strategies and Challenges for Universities Teaching and conflict prevention: Students with certain disabilities (e.g., learning disabilities, autism, emotional/behavioral disorders) often face conflicts in PE classes. Without adequate special education knowledge, PE teachers may find it difficult to interact safely, increasing the risk of accidents. Trend toward inclusive teaching: Today, 96% of special education students are in mainstream schools. Those who make it to university mostly grew up in regular classes, including PE. Therefore, PE teachers should be capable of inclusive teaching. Strengthening teacher capacity: Due to university autonomy, most faculty lack opportunities for professional development in adapted PE. Institutions must take this seriously and provide training and capacity-building. Facility improvement and student participation in decision-making: Universities should optimize sports facilities (e.g., installing pool transfer chairs) and collaborate with resource centers to survey the needs and satisfaction of students with disabilities, ensuring their involvement in decision-making and evaluation. Elevating the status of sports: Sports should not be treated as a luxury, decoration, or expendable item, but rather as a necessity and daily essential. Valuing services for special populations strengthens the educational role of university sports and secures its place on campus. 3. Promoting Inclusion in Major Competitions Participation of students with disabilities in the National Intercollegiate Athletic Games (NIAG): The speaker called for opening NIAG to students with disabilities, based on the human rights model, to encourage their participation in teams and clubs. Since NIAG’s purpose is to make sports enjoyable for all students nationwide, excluding students with disabilities from major competitions makes it difficult for coaches, clubs, and sports offices to motivate them to engage. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

本集John聊是一場主持人的演講實際錄音，這場演講是講者在運動部舉辦的大專體育主管演習會上發表的，主題為「大專校院適應運動之前瞻策略與發展」，目的是向各大專院校體育室的主任與主管們介紹未來在大專院校發展適應運動時應注意的事項。 主要內容與重點： 1. 適應運動的必要性與法源依據： ◦ 運動平權是核心目標：成立運動發展司最大的目標是希望身心障礙民眾擁有運動的權利。運動平權不應是口號，而是要讓身心障礙者感受得到。 ◦ 大專身心障礙學生人數攀升：儘管少子化，特殊學生（身心障礙）人數卻逐年攀升，已超過16,000名，且持續朝2萬人邁進。 ◦ 法律強制要求：特殊教育法已明定適應體育是學生必要的服務（第38條）。若未提供此服務或讓學生免修，基本上屬於違法行為。 ◦ 共融與人權模式：臺灣推動共融趨勢，期望身心障礙者能共融在群體中。應拋棄過時的慈善模式或醫療模式，轉向社會模式與人權模式。人權模式強調身心障礙學生仍享有參與體育課、校隊及運動賽事的快樂與權利。 2. 大專院校推展策略與挑戰： ◦ 教學與衝突預防：許多障礙別（如學習障礙、自閉症、情緒行為障礙）的學生容易在體育課出現衝突。若體育教師不了解特教知能，將難以與特教生互動，極可能發生危險或意外。 ◦ 融合教學趨勢：現今96%的特教生都在普通學校，能夠上大學的學生多半在普通班成長，因此他們從小到大都在普通班上體育課。體育教師應具備融合式教學的能力。 ◦ 重視教師增能：由於大學自治，大專院校教師普遍缺乏適應體育相關進修機會。校方必須重視，並提供教師調訓與增能。 ◦ 運動場館優化與學生決策參與：應優化運動場館設施（如購買游泳池轉位椅）。體育室應與資源教室合作，調查特殊生對體育課的需求和滿意度，讓學生能參與決策與評量。 ◦ 提升體育地位：運動不應是「奢侈品」、「裝飾品」或「消耗品」，而應成為學生的「必須品」和「日常用品」，重視特殊族群服務能鞏固大專體育的教育功能，使其在學校中屹立不搖。 3. 推動大型賽會共融： ◦ 全大運應開放身心障礙者參與：講者呼籲全大運應基於人權模式開放身心障礙者參賽，以鼓勵他們加入校隊和社團，因為全大運的目標是讓全國的讀書人都喜歡運動。目前若不開放在大型賽事參與，教練、社團和體育室都不容易鼓勵特教學生參與。 -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

Nomination Thank-You Special | Golden Harmony of Happiness Nominated for the 60th Golden Bell Awards (Radio) — “Social Concern Program Award” Our heartfelt thanks to the judges for this recognition, and to National Education Radio (NER) for steadfast support. A special note of gratitude to my co-host, Walker Hsu (Yi-Teng Hsu). The seed of this program was, in truth, to “encourage (read: nudge!)” Walker to accelerate the literature review for his PhD—set against Taiwan’s approach to becoming a super-aged society in 2025, and centered on the everyday challenges of dual-elder families: intergenerational mutual care, the aging of people with disabilities, and the systemic issues at the intersection of aging and disability. We wanted to translate rigorous research into knowledge that everyday listeners can understand and use. With NER’s trust, we were fortunate to bring these vital topics into public life through a radio show. First and foremost—thank you, NER, for your confidence and support. We also owe deep thanks to Yu-Juan for shaping the show’s overall structure and design. Season 1 of Golden Harmony of Happiness spans 13 episodes, woven—rigorously yet gently—around a three-part arc: Golden Prelude : Each episode opens with a literary work resonant with the theme, and welcomes guests from real-life contexts—such as families facing rare diseases, mental health conditions, or autism—to awaken empathy and lay the groundwork. Golden Symphony: Cross-disciplinary experts join for in-depth dialogues on topics like nutrition for older adults (e.g., Prof. 劉沁渝, Department of Nutritional Science, Fu Jen University), leisure and activity, technology and aging (digital divide, fraud prevention, AI robotics), dementia support, caregiving in families of people with disabilities (e.g., 卓碧金 of the Cerebral Palsy Association), and interprofessional collaboration. We begin from the lived experience of people with disabilities, translating rigorous scientific evidence into accessible, friendly science communication—helping listeners reflect on their own health, diet, and quality of life. Golden March: Each episode closes with a carefully chosen song that echoes the theme—spanning Mandarin, Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean, Hakka, and English. For example, during Lunar New Year we featured Shu-Fang’s Taiwanese song Gu-wei (孤味); on depression, we used a BTS track to bring younger audiences into the conversation. In the finale, Walker and I teamed up with 希子 to write and perform the eponymous rap single Golden Harmony of Happiness—a warm yet powerful coda to the season. Our gratitude to every guest who entrusted us with their life stories, and to each expert who poured in their professionalism. Beyond the broadcast, we have been extending the work both online and offline: listener meetups, the “Golden Mermaids” swim class (encouraging women 55+ who fear water to bravely get in), and the “Golden Harmony AI Chatroom.” Our hope is to carry the show’s ethos into daily life—practices for living well in an aging future. The intention behind Golden Harmony of Happiness is simple—and not simple at all: in an era where aging is the norm, to accompany everyone in “living well and aging gracefully.” Thank you to NER, our production team, every guest, and every listener. All episodes are now on Channel+ for on-demand listening. Please share this care with anyone who might need it. Once again, thank you to all who made this nomination possible—this honor belongs to our collective effort and shared belief. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

入圍感謝特集｜《花甲幸福曲》入圍第60屆廣播金鐘獎「社會關懷節目獎」 感謝評審的肯定，也感謝國立教育廣播電台的全力支持；特別要謝謝我的共同主持人一騰，這檔節目的起心動念，其實是為了「鼓（逼）勵（迫）」他加速博士論文的文獻回顧——以台灣邁向2025超高齡社會為背景，聚焦「雙老家庭」的日常難題：兩代長者的互助與照顧、身心障礙者的老化，以及高齡與障礙交織所帶來的系統性挑戰。我們希望把專業研究轉譯成一般聽眾聽得懂、用得上的知識，因此向教育電台提案，很幸運能用一檔節目把這些重要的議題帶進大眾生活。首先，誠心感謝電台的信任與成就。 也要由衷感謝玉娟，為節目提供整體結構的建議與設計。《花甲幸福曲》第一季共13集，嚴謹而溫柔地以「三部曲」串起每一集的內在節奏—— 1）花甲前奏曲：以與主題相呼應的文學作品開場，並邀請罕病家庭、精神障礙家庭、自閉症家庭等真實案例來賓，先喚起共鳴，再鋪陳脈絡； 2）花甲交響曲：邀請跨領域專家深談，包括高齡飲食與營養（如輔仁大學營養科學系劉沁渝教授）、休閒與活動、科技與高齡（數位落差、防詐騙、AI機器人）、失智症陪伴、身心障礙家庭照顧（如腦麻協會卓碧金理事長）、跨專業合作等。我們特別從身心障礙者的生活經驗出發，將嚴謹的科學實證轉譯為友善的科普，協助聽眾檢視自身的健康、飲食與生活品質； 3）花甲進行曲：以一首精選歌曲收束當集主題，語言跨越國語、台語、日語、韓語、客語與英語。例如，在農曆年談營養的單元中，選播淑芳大姐〈孤味〉；談憂鬱時，選用防彈少年團的作品，讓更多年輕聽眾進入議題。最後一集中，我與一騰更攜手與希子共同創作、演唱同名饒舌單曲〈花甲幸福曲〉，為整季畫下既溫暖又有力的句點。 謝謝所有受訪者願意把生命經驗交給我們，也謝謝每一位專家學者的專業傾注。節目之外，我們同步推動線上線下的延伸：花甲聽友會、「花甲美人魚」游泳班（鼓勵55歲以上、怕水的女性勇敢下水）、以及「花甲AI機器人聊天室」等，希望把節目的理念落在日常、成為面向高齡未來的生活練習。 《花甲幸福曲》的初衷很簡單，也很不簡單——在老化成為常態的時代，陪大家一起「好好生活、優雅變老」。謝謝電台、謝謝製作團隊、謝謝每一位來賓與每一位收聽的你。節目已上架 Channel+，歡迎隨選隨聽，也期待你把這份關懷分享給需要的人。再次感謝所有讓這份入圍成為可能的人，這份榮耀屬於我們共同的努力與相信。 【Nominated—Thank You | Golden Harmony of Happiness】🙏🎙️ We’re thrilled that Golden Harmony of Happiness, aired on National Education Radio, has been nominated for “Best Social Concern Program” at the 60th Golden Bell Awards (Radio)! For this special episode we invited Yi-Teng (Walker Hsu) to record a heartfelt thank-you together. Our starting point was simple (and a little mischievous)—to nudge my co-host Yi-Teng to speed up his PhD literature review 😆. His research focused on Taiwan’s “dual-elder families.” With Taiwan entering a super-aged society in 2025, we wanted to explain— in everyday language—the intertwined challenges of aging and disability. First and foremost, thank you to National Education Radio for believing in our proposal! Deep thanks to Yu-Juan for shaping the show’s structure. Season 1 features 13 episodes built around a “three-part suite”: Golden Prelude: Open with a literary work, then bring in real stories from families facing rare diseases, mental illness, autism, and more—to spark empathy. Golden Symphony: In-depth conversations with experts across fields (e.g., Prof. Liu Qin-Yu of Fu Jen University on nutrition; Chuo Bi-Jin, Chairperson of the Cerebral Palsy Association; plus topics like the digital divide, anti-fraud, and AI). We translate rigorous evidence into practical, easy-to-apply knowledge for daily life. Golden March: Close each episode with a theme-echoing song—ranging from the Taiwanese track “Gu-Wei (孤味)” to K-pop by BTS—to invite different generations in. Our finale features an original rap single, “Golden Harmony of Happiness,” performed with Xizi. Gratitude to all our guests, experts, and production partners for weaving literature, fieldwork, professional insight, and science together—and to every listener for tuning in and sharing. Beyond the broadcast, we’ve hosted listener meet-ups, launched the “Golden Mermaids” swimming class (friendly for women 55+ who are afraid of water), and built the “Golden Harmony AI Chatroom,” so the content can truly land in daily life. Our aim is simple: in an aging society, learn to “live well and age gracefully.” The show is now on Channel+ for on-demand listening—please keep the feedback and good vibes coming. Thank you all—let’s keep moving forward together! 🎧✨ -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

In JohnChat EP35,this podcast episode features an interview with the founder of "Judian Coffee," who, despite a background in sports, transitioned into the coffee industry. The discussion explores the entrepreneurial journey, from the initial idea and the development of the brand's philosophy—emphasizing human connection—to the challenges faced in establishing a business, such as administrative tasks and tax issues. The founder and his partner, a certified coffee expert, discuss their diverse range of coffee products, including various blends and processing methods like sun-dried and washed, and how these different characteristics appeal to varied preferences. They also share their marketing strategy, which focuses on online sales and promotional events at sports competitions, while emphasizing the importance of quality content over excessive packaging and advocating for supporting local producers. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

本集John聊邀請到聚點咖啡創辦人艾玓 & 咖啡師 Ivan，一起來聊聊他們的創意歷程。他們雖有都體育運動背景，卻進入到咖啡產業。對談內容從創業的最初發想、品牌理念的形塑（強調「人與人的連結」），一路談到開業過程面臨的各種挑戰，如行政庶務與稅務問題。創辦人及其夥伴（具認證資格的咖啡專家）也介紹他們多元的咖啡產品，包括不同配方與處理法，如日曬與水洗，並說明這些風味特性如何滿足不同偏好。兩人分享的行銷策略以線上銷售為主，並結合在體育賽事的現場推廣；同時強調重內容勝於過度包裝，並提倡支持在地生產者。 This podcast episode features an interview with the founder of "Judian Coffee," who, despite a background in sports, transitioned into the coffee industry. The discussion explores the entrepreneurial journey, from the initial idea and the development of the brand's philosophy—emphasizing human connection—to the challenges faced in establishing a business, such as administrative tasks and tax issues. The founder and his partner, a certified coffee expert, discuss their diverse range of coffee products, including various blends and processing methods like sun-dried and washed, and how these different characteristics appeal to varied preferences. They also share their marketing strategy, which focuses on online sales and promotional events at sports competitions, while emphasizing the importance of quality content over excessive packaging and advocating for supporting local producers. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

In JohnChat EP33, on a hectic morning, host John invites two standout former students who came up through sports-track classes and a sports science program: Ai-Di (founder of Ju-Dian Café, 聚點咖啡) and Ivan, now a PE teacher. In this episode, John puts forward a provocative educational claim: “Every class should be a sports class.” He argues that the experience of setbacks on the playing field builds the mindset and self-discipline kids need to face future challenges. He also encourages trimming academic seat time so children can cultivate the imagination and creativity that AI struggles to replace. The show unpacks the myth that student-athletes “don’t like studying,” pointing out that not liking textbooks doesn’t equal disliking learning. Through the guests’ stories, we explore how athletic careers foster self-awareness and help young people navigate life choices. Curious why these sports-background youths ultimately moved into the coffee business—and how they infuse entrepreneurial work with the spirit of sport? Just tap the next episode—don’t miss it! -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

歡迎收聽「John聊」第33集！主持人John在一個「兵荒馬亂」的早晨，邀請到兩位曾就讀過體育班與運動學系背景的「厲害學生」：一位是「聚點」咖啡創辦人艾玓，以及另一位則是體育老師Ivan。本集John提出顛覆性的教育主張：「每一個班都應該是體育班」，強調運動場上的「挫折」經驗能培養孩子面對未來挑戰的「心態」與「自律」，並鼓勵減少學科時數，讓孩子發揮AI難以取代的「想像力」與「創作力」。節目中也探討體育生「不喜歡讀書」的迷思，點出不愛讀課本不等於不愛學習的真諦，並透過兩位來賓的經驗，分享如何在運動生涯中學習自我覺察與面對人生選擇。想知道這些體育背景的年輕人，為何最終會走向咖啡事業，以及他們如何將運動精神融入創業？請直接點選下一集，精彩內容不容錯過！ Welcome to Episode 33 of JohnChat! On a hectic morning, host John invites two standout former students who came up through sports-track classes and a sports science program: Ai-Di (founder of Ju-Dian Café, 聚點咖啡) and Ivan, now a PE teacher. In this episode, John puts forward a provocative educational claim: “Every class should be a sports class.” He argues that the experience of setbacks on the playing field builds the mindset and self-discipline kids need to face future challenges. He also encourages trimming academic seat time so children can cultivate the imagination and creativity that AI struggles to replace. The show unpacks the myth that student-athletes “don’t like studying,” pointing out that not liking textbooks doesn’t equal disliking learning. Through the guests’ stories, we explore how athletic careers foster self-awareness and help young people navigate life choices. Curious why these sports-background youths ultimately moved into the coffee business—and how they infuse entrepreneurial work with the spirit of sport? Just tap the next episode—don’t miss it! -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

In JohnChat EP31, we once again invite Yu Wei to join us in discussing assistive technology and its impact on daily life, particularly for individuals with disabilities. Yu Wei helps clarify and expand our traditional understanding of assistive devices, broadening the concept to include everyday items like eyeglasses and smartphones. Together, they explore how modern technology—such as smartphone accessibility features, voice assistants, and health monitoring apps—can significantly enhance personal independence and convenience. The conversation also addresses how evolving technologies, like advanced features in video games or digital menus, can sometimes create new barriers for certain users. Ultimately, both speakers advocate for inclusive design and diverse options to ensure that technology truly benefits everyone. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

本集再度邀請俞維來跟我們聊聊輔助科技及其對日常生活的影響，特別是對身心障礙者而言，俞維跟大家釐清過去我們對於傳統對輔具的認知，將其概念擴展到像眼鏡與智慧型手機這類常見物品。他們探討了現代科技如何透過智慧型手機的無障礙功能、語音助理以及健康監測應用程式，顯著提升個人的自主性與便利性。對話中也提到科技發展的變化，例如電玩遊戲中的進階功能或數位菜單，有時可能反而為某些使用者帶來新的障礙。最終，兩人主張應推動共融設計並提供多元選擇，確保科技能真正造福所有人。 In this episode, we once again invite Yu Wei to join us in discussing assistive technology and its impact on daily life, particularly for individuals with disabilities. Yu Wei helps clarify and expand our traditional understanding of assistive devices, broadening the concept to include everyday items like eyeglasses and smartphones. Together, they explore how modern technology—such as smartphone accessibility features, voice assistants, and health monitoring apps—can significantly enhance personal independence and convenience. The conversation also addresses how evolving technologies, like advanced features in video games or digital menus, can sometimes create new barriers for certain users. Ultimately, both speakers advocate for inclusive design and diverse options to ensure that technology truly benefits everyone. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

Today, John’s guest is Yu Wei, who joins us to explore the everyday challenges faced by people with disabilities. Their conversation touches on common misconceptions about visual impairments, the necessity of assistive devices such as wheelchairs, and the widespread lack of accessible infrastructure. They particularly highlight the importance of accessible transportation and accommodations, using examples from their experiences attending Major League Baseball games in the U.S. and concerts in Taiwan to illustrate the difficulties individuals with disabilities often face when engaging in leisure activities. The discussion concludes with a call for greater societal understanding and acceptance of people with disabilities, as well as a continued push for universal design and accessibility to create a more inclusive environment for all. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

今天John聊的來賓是俞維，他將帶著我們深入探討了身心障礙者在日常生活中所面臨的挑戰。對話內容涵蓋了大眾對視障的誤解、輔具（如輪椅）使用的必要性，以及無障礙設施的不足。他們特別強調了友善交通和住宿的重要性，並以觀看美國職棒大聯盟和台灣演唱會的經驗為例，說明了身心障礙者在參與娛樂活動時所遇到的不便。最後，我們呼籲社會應更理解和接納身心障礙者，並持續推動無障礙通用設計，以建立一個更具包容性的環境，讓我們來一起來聽聽吧！ Today, John’s guest is Yu Wei, who joins us to explore the everyday challenges faced by people with disabilities. Their conversation touches on common misconceptions about visual impairments, the necessity of assistive devices such as wheelchairs, and the widespread lack of accessible infrastructure. They particularly highlight the importance of accessible transportation and accommodations, using examples from their experiences attending Major League Baseball games in the U.S. and concerts in Taiwan to illustrate the difficulties individuals with disabilities often face when engaging in leisure activities. The discussion concludes with a call for greater societal understanding and acceptance of people with disabilities, as well as a continued push for universal design and accessibility to create a more inclusive environment for all. -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

This episode is a NotebookLM Deep Dive featuring Episode 27 of JohnChat. In this episode, we once again have a joint broadcast with Ama Washing Screws, and the recording process was full of fun! I traveled to Taitung to participate in the Challenge Taiwan triathlon, and during my stay, we took the opportunity to record another collaboration with Ama Washing Screws. This time, I had the chance to sit down and have an in-depth conversation with them about why these two young individuals decided to move to Taitung in their twenties and thirties. Let's listen to their stories together! 這集是用NotebookLM Deep Dive介紹【John聊】的第27集，當集與阿罵洗螺絲再度聯播，錄製的過程非常有趣！當時是因為我前往台東參加Challenge Taiwan鐵人三項，剛好到了台東，於是就在比賽期間進行與「阿罵洗螺絲」的聯播，這次我找到機會能夠好好跟阿罵洗螺絲聊聊，為什麼他們兩位年輕人要分別在二、三十歲時移居到台東？！讓我們來一起來聽聽吧！ -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

本集又再次與阿罵洗螺絲聯播，因為我又到台東囉！這次趁著我再度到台東帶隊比鐵人賽，找到機會能夠好好跟阿罵洗螺絲聊聊，為什麼他們兩位年輕人要分別在二、三十歲時移居到台東？！讓我們來一起來聽聽吧！ In this episode, we once again have a joint broadcast with Ama Washing Screws, because I'm back in Taitung! During this trip, while leading a team for a triathlon race, I found the perfect opportunity to sit down with Ama Washing Screws and chat. Why did these two young people decide to move to Taitung in their twenties and thirties? Let's listen to their stories together! -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

This episode is a NotebookLM Deep Dive into Episode 25 of JohnChat. In this special installment, listeners join John on a visit to Muscle Savior for a firsthand experience of sports massage—where you can hear him groaning throughout the entire session… Oh my goodness! This episode is just way too real! 這集是用NotebookLM Deep Dive介紹【John聊】的第25集，該集特別帶著聽眾跟著John一起到「肌肉救星」體驗運動按摩，然後聽到John整個過程哀哀叫….天呀！這一集未免也太實境了吧！ -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

您試過運動按摩嗎？！本集特別帶著大家跟著我一起到「肌肉救星」體驗運動按摩，然後聽到我整個過程哀哀叫….天呀！這一集未免也太實境了吧！ Have you ever tried sports massage?! In this episode, I take you along with me to Muscle Savior for a hands-on experience with sports massage — and you’ll hear me groaning through the entire process… Oh my goodness! This episode is just way too real! -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

This Episode is the commentary of JohnChat_EP23 by NotebookLM Deep Dive. In EP23, we invite Chen You-Wen to share insights and experiences from their pilgrimage to Spain in July 2024. Unlike typical media or influencer narratives, we explore lesser-discussed aspects of the journey, focusing on the mindset shifts and mental adjustments needed along the way. Whether you're planning your own pilgrimage or simply curious, we hope this conversation offers fresh inspiration! 這集是用NotebookLM Deep Dive介紹【John聊】的第23集，該集邀請陳宥文來分享他們在 2024 年 7 月前往西班牙朝聖之旅的生活點滴與經驗。與一般媒體或網紅的分享不同，我們將深入探討較少被提及的面向，聊聊在朝聖路上如何調整心態與想法，以適應旅途中的挑戰與收穫。希望這段對話能帶給你新的啟發，無論你是否計劃踏上這條路！ -- Hosting provided by SoundOn

本集邀請陳宥文來分享他們在 2024 年 7 月前往西班牙朝聖之旅的生活點滴與經驗。與一般媒體或網紅的分享不同，我們將深入探討較少被提及的面向，聊聊在朝聖路上如何調整心態與想法，以適應旅途中的挑戰與收穫。希望這段對話能帶給你新的啟發，無論你是否計劃踏上這條路！ In this episode, we invite Chen You-Wen to share insights and experiences from their pilgrimage to Spain in July 2024. Unlike typical media or influencer narratives, we explore lesser-discussed aspects of the journey, focusing on the mindset shifts and mental adjustments needed along the way. Whether you're planning your own pilgrimage or simply curious, we hope this conversation offers fresh inspiration! -- Hosting provided by SoundOn