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It's Not About Money
It's Not About Money
75 episodes
2 months ago
Join us, Charla and Matt McKinley, as we delve into the world of parenting with a financial twist. This podcast is your go-to resource for raising responsible and ready adults, providing insights and actionable advice on money matters and beyond.
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Join us, Charla and Matt McKinley, as we delve into the world of parenting with a financial twist. This podcast is your go-to resource for raising responsible and ready adults, providing insights and actionable advice on money matters and beyond.
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How To
Education,
Kids & Family,
Parenting
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It's Not About Money
Back to School Contract (Replay)
Back to School Contract:  The No Argument Approach
sponsored by CTCMath.com

In this episode, Matt and Charla McKinley welcome their son Jack McKinley back to the studio. They discuss Jack's summer experiences, his work, friendships, and financial management. The focus then shifts to the concept of a back-to-school contract, a tool that has helped their family establish clear expectations and consequences related to academic performance and personal responsibility.

Key Discussion Points:

Jack’s Summer Recap:

- Matt and Charla discuss Jack's productive summer, where he balanced work, spending time with friends, and managing his finances.

- They highlight the importance of Jack having more cash left over than spent, a sign of his growing financial responsibility.

Back-to-School Contract:

- Charla introduces the back-to-school contract, explaining its origins and purpose. She recalls how it was inspired by Jack's high school years.

- Matt shares his initial skepticism about the contract but acknowledges its positive impact on their family dynamic.

- Charla elaborates on how the contract set clear academic expectations and consequences, which helped manage Jack's time and responsibilities effectively.

Implementation and Impact:

- Matt emphasizes the importance of drafting the contract collaboratively with the child to ensure they have a sense of ownership and understanding.

- Jack reflects on how the contract provided structure and clarity during his high school years, which was essential for his academic success.

- Charla discusses the challenges of enforcing the contract, noting that consistency is key to its effectiveness. She shares anecdotes of tough decisions, such as Jack missing social events due to not meeting academic standards.

Parenting Insights:

- Charla discusses the long-term benefits of teaching children about boundaries and consequences, preparing them for adult responsibilities.

- Matt talks about the importance of tough love and holding children accountable, stressing that it helps them develop resilience and independence.

- Jack expresses gratitude for the contract, acknowledging that it helped him develop the discipline needed for college and future endeavors.

Connect With Us:

You can find the bank to school contract and read more about this (or past topics) on Charla’s blog:  https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog

To subscribe to the weekly email with links to our podcast and blog, go here:  https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1

To learn more about our unique products designed to increase your children’s understanding of how money works in the real world, go here:  https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/
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3 months ago

It's Not About Money
Teaching Teens the Value of Hard Work
INAM 25-24 Summary
Teaching Teens the Value of Hard Work
In this episode, Matt and Charla bust the myth that teens will “just get” a work ethic.Spoiler alert: They won’t.Work ethic is taught, modeled, and experienced—it takes intentional parenting, not crossed fingers and good vibes.

What We Dig Into:
1. Hard work isn’t natural—it’s learned.Teens aren’t lazy, they’re just inexperienced. If they’ve never had to work for something, they won’t magically know how to when it counts.
2. They value what they earn.When teens hustle for something, they care more about it. That shiny new thing feels different when it’s the result of sweat equity.
3. Chores ≠ Jobs.Chores are unpaid, non-negotiable, and part of being in a family. You live here, you contribute—no negotiations required.
4. Allowance is a tool, not a wage.Don’t pay for chores. Instead, treat allowance like a soccer ball—it’s practice gear for building money skills. Need a refresher? Revisit episodes 25-07 and 25-08.
5. “Wants” are work opportunities.If your teen wants more than the basics—great! That’s a work-for-want moment. Don’t fund the wish. Fund the hustle. Charla’s got a full list of job ideas on the blog (link below).
6. Real-life job ideas we love:



Organizing junk drawers


Shoveling snow


Hauling mulch


“Wee Haul” – a weekly bin-rolling biz


Raking leaves after a storm


Opportunities are everywhere—if they’re willing to look.
7. Not willing to work for it?Then it may not be worth your money either. That’s part of the growing-up lesson: prepare before the opportunity, not after it arrives.

Quick Recap for Parents:
Require chores – cost of family membership Provide allowance – practice tool for financial literacy Offer paid projects – real-world training for work ethic

Connect With Us:


Charla’s Blog: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog


Subscribe: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1


Explore Our Curriculum: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com

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4 months ago
13 minutes 18 seconds

It's Not About Money
You Can’t Cram for Adulthood
INAM 25-23: You Can’t Cram for Adulthood
Listen to all of the It's Not About Money Podcast episodes here.
In this sentimental (and slightly hilarious) episode, Charla welcomes a very special guest—her daughter Kate.
As Kate prepares to launch into college life, the two reflect on the long runway of life lessons that shaped her independence—and why you can’t wait until senior year to teach kids how to adult.
From budgeting and banking basics to managing a credit card and handling group money for school events, Kate shares how growing up in a “learning by doing” household made all the difference. (Yes, there were spreadsheets. But also freedom—and room to make mistakes while the stakes were still low.)
Together, Charla and Kate unpack the myth that kids just magically “mature” when they turn 18. Spoiler alert: they don’t. They need practice, not pressure.
You’ll hear how Kate:



Learned to budget naturally


Reconciled her bank account monthly


Requested reimbursements like a boss


Navigated the wild world of credit cards


...all before setting foot on a college campus.
Whether your child is in middle school or on the brink of graduation, this episode is packed with real talk from a teen and actionable takeaways for parents who want to launch their kids with confidence.
Key Takeaways



Adulthood isn’t a cram session—it’s a long game.


Give teens responsibility with their money, not just cash.


Let them manage real tools (banking, budgeting, credit) with guidance.


Normalize financial conversations at home—early and often.


Connect With Us Charla’s Blog: beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog Subscribe: beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1 Explore Our Curriculum: beyondpersonalfinance.com
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4 months ago
18 minutes 58 seconds

It's Not About Money
3 Things You Need To Stop Doing For Your Kids
3 Things You Should Stop Doing for Your Kids (Right Now)
Welcome back to It’s Not About Money—the podcast where parenting gets intentional and the laughs are free. In this episode, Matt and Charla pull no punches as they dive into a fiery topic that might just make your mornings quieter and your kids more capable: What you should stop doing for your kids immediately.

We’re talking real talk—no guilt, just strategy. Matt opens with a spicy take (calling Charla lazy—bold move) and together they unpack three behaviors parents need to let go of in order to raise responsible, resilient kids. Here’s what made the cut:
1.     Stop Waking Them Up
If your kid wants a later bedtime, they need to earn it by taking responsibility for waking themselves up. Learn how natural consequences (and a few clever incentives) can work better than mom-as-human-alarm-clock.
2.     Stop Fighting About Clothes
Let them wear shorts in December or sandals on a hike. If they’re uncomfortable or end up with a blister, they’ll remember next time. Bonus: fewer arguments for you.
3.     Stop the Incessant Reminders
You only get so many words before they tune you out. Save them. Let consequences do the teaching—whether it's forgotten homework, smelly shoes, or an overflowing trash can.

Charla and Matt share stories, sprinkle in humor, and offer practical tips for dialing back the helicoptering and letting kids experience the consequences of their choices.

Full list of the “7 Things to Stop Doing” is available on Charla’s blog: Beyond Personal Finance

Connect With Us:

Charla’s blog: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog

Subscribe: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1

Explore our curriculum: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com
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5 months ago
15 minutes 57 seconds

It's Not About Money
Your Child is More Capable Than You Know (Part 2)
INAM 25-20 Summary – Your Child is More Capable Than You Know (Part 2)
Welcome back to It’s Not About Money, the money podcast for intentional parents!In this episode, Charla and Matt dive into the second part of their series, exploring how you can help your child take on more responsibility as they grow from ages 11 to 18.If you missed Part 1, where we discussed the younger age groups (2–10), check it out in the show notes.

Episode Highlights:
• Ages 11–13: Becoming CapableKids in this range are gaining independence and confidence. They can take on tasks like organizing common areas, doing their own laundry, mowing the lawn, and preparing simple meals. Charla and Matt emphasize that teaching these basic skills early helps build both capability and confidence.
• Ages 14–16: Household ManagerAt this stage, kids can start managing more complex tasks like deep cleaning areas, grocery shopping with a budget, and even handling basic home repairs. Charla shares how this stage builds on the skills learned earlier, reinforcing responsibility for the whole household.
• Ages 17+: Almost AdultsAs your child nears adulthood, it’s time for them to take on the full responsibility of managing their lives, from scheduling appointments to maintaining a household. Charla and Matt discuss how the goal is for kids to be ready for independent living—handling tasks like cooking, cleaning, and managing a budget, with the safety net of being under your roof.

Key Takeaways:


Age isn’t the only factor—maturity, capability, and attitude matter when assigning tasks.


Don’t wait to teach essential life skills. The earlier they learn, the more confident they’ll become.


Use this stage to prepare them for adulthood and set them up for success!


Resources Mentioned:


Don’t forget to grab the full chore list and other resources on our blog!


Make sure to sign up for updates from Beyond Personal Finance to get exclusive content!


Thanks for joining us today! Be sure to tune in next time for more insights on raising intentional, responsible kids.

Connect With Us:
Charla’s blog: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blogSubscribe: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1Explore our curriculum: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com
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5 months ago
14 minutes 38 seconds

It's Not About Money
Your Kids Are More Capable Than You Think- Part One
INAM 25-19 Summary: Your Kids Are More Capable Than You Think (Part One)
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla kick off a two-part series on chores, focusing this week on kids ages 2 to 10. Spoiler alert: your kids are far more capable than you might think—and starting early makes all the difference.
Charla shares a practical and encouraging list of age-appropriate tasks that can build confidence, develop independence, and create a household culture of contribution. From toddlers picking up toys to 10-year-olds folding laundry, this episode is packed with ways to engage your child meaningfully in the running of the home.
Matt and Charla also reflect on how expectations around kids' responsibilities have shifted over time—and not always for the better. A century ago, children played vital roles in supporting the family. Today, we often underestimate what they can do. Charla challenges parents to raise the bar and let their kids rise to the occasion.

Key Topics Covered:
1. Early Helpers (Ages 2–6)Simple tasks like picking up toys, making beds, feeding pets, and helping set the table give young kids a sense of ownership and belonging.
2. Gaining Independence (Ages 7–10)Older kids can take on more responsibility—keeping rooms tidy, doing laundry, cleaning surfaces, and preparing snacks—while still enjoying the pride that comes from contributing.
3. The Power of ContributionMatt and Charla emphasize that these aren't just chores—they’re the building blocks of confidence, capability, and character.
4. Progress Over PerfectionDon’t expect perfection. Focus on effort, habit-building, and encouraging your child’s growth.

Call to Action:
→ Start giving your kids meaningful tasks today.→ Download Charla’s age-based chore list from this week’s blog.→ Tune in next week for Part 2: Chores for ages 11–18.

Connect With Us:
Blog: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blogSubscribe: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1Explore our courses: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com
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6 months ago
14 minutes 7 seconds

It's Not About Money
Adulting Is Not Optional – How to Raise Capable, Confident Kids
INAM 25-18 Summary: Adulting Is Not Optional – How to Raise Capable, Confident Kids
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla tackle a growing parenting challenge—how to raise kids who are prepared for adulthood before they leave the house.From household chores to job interviews, this episode unpacks what it really takes to help teens grow into confident, competent adults.
Too many parents focus solely on academics, unintentionally skipping the everyday life skills that make all the difference in the real world. Charla and Matt call out the danger of protecting kids too much and share how small responsibilities now can build the confidence needed for the future.
With humor (and a few “Montana homestead” confessions), they get honest about how trying to delay adulthood can backfire—and why folding laundry, cooking dinner, and filling out forms are not optional life skills.

Key Topics Covered:
1. The Myth of the 18th Birthday Magic WandAdulthood doesn’t begin with a cake and candles. Kids need to be building real-world skills before they leave home.
2. The Confidence-Responsibility ConnectionCharla explains why confidence grows by doing hard things—consistently and over time.
3. The Language Shift That Changes EverythingStop saying “Can you help me?” Start saying “It’s your turn.” Words matter.
4. Real-World Exposure MattersFrom chores to jobs outside the home, kids need practice being accountable to people who aren’t their parents.

Call to Action:
→ Start small: assign one daily task your child is fully responsible for.→ Shift your mindset: you’re not just running a household—you’re raising an adult.→ Follow us on social and share how your family is preparing for adulting.

Connect With Us:
Charla’s blog: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blogSubscribe: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1Explore our curriculum: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com
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6 months ago
16 minutes

It's Not About Money
Building Resilience Through Quality Time (and Movies That Matter)
INAM 25-17 Summary:
Building Resilience Through Quality Time (and Movies That Matter)
In this special mother-daughter episode of It’s Not About Money, Charla is joined by her daughter Kate to explore how families can use storytelling—especially movies—to build resilience and connection.
With Matt out this week, the ladies dive into one of their favorite family traditions: watching meaningful shows together to spark conversation and create quality time.
Charla shares how she’s used family movie nights to go beyond simple entertainment, intentionally choosing films that highlight grit, perseverance, and hope. Using curated lists from Common Sense Media, she selects titles that inspire real discussion—and sometimes a little friendly teasing (yes, renting Ant-Man five times is now part of McKinley family lore).

Key Topics Covered
1. What Quality Time Really Looks Like
Sometimes it’s not about the perfect movie—it’s about being together and opening up meaningful conversations along the way.

2. The Power of Stories to Teach Life Lessons
Kids often learn best through observing others. Charla and Kate explain how resilience becomes real when kids see characters struggle, adapt, and overcome.

3. Movie Recommendations That Matter
From The Eagle Huntress to Dancing in Jaffa, Charla shares films (for all ages) that show powerful examples of courage and growth from around the world.

4. Why Listening Matters More Than Lecturing
Kate explains how these movie moments can lead to more authentic, less confrontational conversations—and Charla reminds us that sometimes, just listening is the best gift we can give.

Call to Action:
→ Choose a resilience-themed movie for your next family night.→ Use it as a springboard for honest conversation and connection.→ Find the full movie list in the show notes and this week’s blog.

Connect With Us:


Blog: beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog


Subscribe: beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1


Courses for Teens: beyondpersonalfinance.com

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6 months ago
11 minutes 53 seconds

It's Not About Money
Is It a Dream or Just a Fantasy? Helping Kids Discern Their Future
INAM 25-16 Summary: Is It a Dream or Just a Fantasy? Helping Kids Discern Their Future
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla explore a common parenting challenge: how to help your child tell the difference between a dream worth pursuing and a fantasy. While we all want to encourage our kids to aim high, it's equally important to teach them how to assess whether their ambitions are grounded in reality—or floating in a cloud of wishful thinking.
While we all want to encourage our kids to aim high, it's equally important to teach them how to assess whether their ambitions are grounded in reality—or floating in a cloud of wishful thinking.
Charla (jokingly called the “dream crusher,” though she prefers “fantasy crusher”) unpacks what separates a dream from a fantasy.Hint: it has a lot to do with effort, natural talent, and whether your child is self-motivated to put in the work when no one is watching.
Using relatable stories—including one about their own son’s baseball aspirations—Matt and Charla demonstrate how to recognize the signs of real passion versus temporary whims.

Key Topics Covered:
1. The Difference Between a Dream and a FantasyDreams are based on ability, passion, and a willingness to work hard. Fantasies are just nice ideas with no plan or path forward.
2. Real-Life Clues That a Dream Might Be Worth PursuingFrom independent practice to asking for lessons, Charla outlines what to look for when evaluating your child’s ambition.
3. Four Questions to Ask Your Child (and Yourself)Help your kids self-reflect with a simple framework:



Do I have the ability?


Will I put in the effort?


Are there clear steps to take?


Has anyone else done this successfully?


4. How to Redirect Without Crushing SpiritsEven if the original dream isn't realistic, kids can often pivot toward related paths that still align with their interests—without setting them up for future frustration or failure.

Call to Action:
→ Ask your child thoughtful questions instead of offering blind encouragement.→ Download Charla’s Dream vs. Fantasy checklist (coming soon on the blog!).→ Share your own stories on social and tag us—we’d love to hear how you’re guiding your kids through this process.

Connect With Us:
Explore more parenting and finance resources:https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog
Subscribe for updates and new episodes:https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1
Learn more about our courses:https://beyondpersonalfinance.com



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6 months ago
17 minutes 46 seconds

It's Not About Money
Top 5 Personal Finance Books Every Parent Should Read This Financial Literacy Month
Top 5 Personal Finance Books Every Parent Should ReadFinancial Literacy Month
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla celebrate Financial Literacy Month by spotlighting five game-changing personal finance books for adults who want to improve their own money skills in order to better teach their kids.
If you’ve ever felt underqualified to guide your children in money matters, this episode offers an encouraging and practical starting point. Charla’s curated list includes approachable, insightful titles that cover everything from money mindset to budgeting, saving, and the psychology of financial decision-making.




Key Topics Covered:
1. Why Parents Need to Learn First
Many adults never received formal financial education, learning instead through trial and error or family dynamics filled with silence or shame around money. Charla emphasizes that to raise financially literate kids, parents need to first feel confident in their own knowledge.

2. Top 5 Must-Read Financial Literacy Books
Charla shares five of her favorite titles:



Your Money or Your Life – Shift your mindset by connecting money to your life energy.


The Index Card – Simple, actionable advice that fits on a single card.


Get Good with Money – A holistic guide to achieving financial wholeness.


The Psychology of Money – A fascinating look at how behavior and emotion shape our financial choices.


ME: The True Story of a Made-Up Thing – A historical and humorous look at what money actually is.


3. Why It Matters for Families
These books not only build adult confidence but also equip parents to have meaningful conversations with their kids about money—setting the foundation for lifelong financial health.

Call to Action:


Grab one of the recommended books and start reading!


Got a favorite finance book? Tag @beyondpersonalfinance and share it with us!


Not subscribed yet? Join our email list for more insights and free resources.





Connect With Us:


Read Charla’s blog: beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog


Explore our curriculum: beyondpersonalfinance.com

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6 months ago
12 minutes 54 seconds

It's Not About Money
Should You Show Your Kids Your Finances?
Should you show your kids your finances? In today’s episode, Charla and Matt dive into this question and discuss why they believe the answer is no. While financial transparency is important in some areas, sharing exact numbers with kids can often do more harm than good.
Should You Show Your Kids Your Finances? 
Charla explains that children lack the life experience to fully grasp financial nuances. Without proper context, they may develop unnecessary worries, entitlement, or an unrealistic view of money. Instead of exposing them to real financial pressures, parents can teach financial literacy in a way that fosters independence and critical thinking.

One powerful tool for this is simulation-based learning. Rather than showing kids real family finances, Charla recommends giving them opportunities to make financial choices in a controlled environment. This is why she created Beyond Personal Finance, a curriculum that takes teens through a 20-year financial journey where they must make decisions about careers, housing, transportation, and more. The results? Eye-opening experiences that help them understand the consequences of financial decisions—without the real-world risks.

Matt and Charla also discuss how parents can integrate financial lessons into everyday life, from budgeting for groceries to saving for big purchases. By guiding kids through decision-making processes rather than just giving them financial figures, parents can equip them with the skills they need to be financially responsible adults.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

Why revealing your finances to your kids may not be the best approach
How financial simulations can teach lasting money lessons
Ways to engage kids in real-world financial decision-making

Links & Resources:

Learn more about Beyond Personal Finance

Would you share your finances with your kids? Let us know in the comments!
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7 months ago
18 minutes 37 seconds

It's Not About Money
7 Things Your Teen Should Pay For
7 Things Your Teen Should Pay For
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla dive into a key topic for parents of teens—helping kids develop financial responsibility by contributing to their own expenses. While some parents might hesitate at the idea, Charla explains how strategic financial contributions help teens learn valuable money lessons before adulthood.

Matt and Charla break down the big three expenses where teens should have skin in the game: school wardrobes, car expenses, and cell phones. These high-cost items are often a source of tension in families, but by involving teens in financial decisions, parents can teach budgeting, trade-offs, and personal responsibility.

Key Topics Covered:

* School Wardrobe: Giving Teens Control Over Clothing Budgets

* Teens care deeply about their personal style, making clothing a great way to introduce budgeting.
* Instead of parents acting as unlimited ATMs, give your teen a set amount of money for clothes each season.
* Let them decide how to allocate their budget—if they want expensive shoes, they’ll have to compromise elsewhere.
* Using a gift card for shopping trips reinforces the reality of limited funds. When the money runs out, they must adjust their choices.


* Car Expenses: Teaching the Cost of Driving

* While families approach car ownership differently, having teens contribute to gas and insurance builds responsibility.
* The more they drive, the more they pay—helping them connect behavior with financial consequences.
* Teens who can’t work full-time can contribute in other ways, like running family errands in exchange for gas money.
* Accidents and reckless driving impact insurance rates. Matt and Charla share how their kids learned this lesson the hard way.


* Cell Phones: Why Teens Should Help Pay

* A phone is a necessity for safety and communication, but extras like unlimited data or the latest device should be their responsibility.
* If a teen wants a better plan, more data, or a new phone, they should cover the cost difference.
* Broken screens, lost phones, and upgrades should come out of their own money— teaching them to take better care of their belongings.
* Charla shares a hilarious real-life story about how her son learned (the hard way) that removing his phone case was a bad idea!



Call to Action:

Get the Full List! Matt and Charla only covered three of the seven key expenses teens should contribute to. Grab the full list in this episode’s show notes or visit the blog for details.

Join the Conversation! What expenses do your teens contribute to? Have you seen any lessons stick? Share your experience in the comments or on social media!

Connect With Us:

Read more on Charla’s blog: Beyond Personal Finance

Subscribe to our email list: Get episode updates and financial tips for teens! Subscribe Here

Explore our courses: Give your teen the financial head start they deserve! Beyond Personal Finance Courses
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7 months ago
20 minutes 14 seconds

It's Not About Money
The 1 Predictor of Money Problems
The #1 Predictor of Money Problems: Why Self-Control Matters
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla discuss the powerful connection between self-control and financial success. Research shows that a lack of self-control is a significant predictor of future money problems, and as parents, we have the opportunity to help our kids develop this crucial skill early. Charla shares insights on how to foster self-control in children, explaining why small financial decisions now shape long-term habits.

Through personal stories, including her own struggles with impulse shopping and her strategy for avoiding temptations, Charla highlights the importance of modeling financial discipline for kids. The conversation dives into why delayed gratification is critical, how impulse spending can lead to financial instability, and the practical ways parents can help their children build self-control.

Key Topics Covered:

* The Role of Self-Control in Financial Success: Why the ability to delay gratification leads to better financial outcomes.
* How Marketers and Society Influence Spending: The $400 billion spent annually to persuade us to buy more.
* Teaching Kids to Manage Money Wisely: Strategies for helping children practice self-control in spending and saving.
* Modeling Financial Discipline as Parents: How our own spending habits shape our children’s views on money.
* Building Resilience Through Financial Challenges: Encouraging kids to work through financial struggles rather than solving everything for them.

Key Takeaways:

* Delayed Gratification is Essential: Teaching kids to wait before making a purchase helps develop financial discipline.
* Practice Builds Strong Habits: Giving kids a structured allowance and letting them make their own money decisions instills long-term responsibility.
* Avoiding Impulse Spending: Simple strategies, like staying out of tempting stores, can make a big difference.
* Set an Example: Kids learn more from watching our actions than from listening to lectures about money.

Call to Action:

* Reflect: How do you model self-control for your kids? Are you reinforcing financial discipline in daily life?
* Discuss: Share a personal story with your children about a time you practiced financial restraint and the benefits you experienced.
* Try It: Consider setting financial boundaries with your kids—whether it’s a savings challenge, a delayed purchase goal, or a controlled spending plan.

Connect With Us:

* Read more on Charla’s blog: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog
* Subscribe to our email list for updates: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1
* Learn more about our personal finance curriculum for kids: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/
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7 months ago
13 minutes 57 seconds

It's Not About Money
You Don’t Get To Keep All You Make
You Don't Get To Keep All You Make-  How to Calculate a Paycheck
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla introduce a special session designed to help teens understand the reality of paychecks. Charla recently taught a virtual one-hour lesson to students across the country, and today, she shares that session with you. If you’re a parent looking for a quick, impactful way to teach your teen about paychecks, deductions, and net income, this is the perfect episode to share with them!

Key Topics Covered:

* Why Learning About Paychecks Matters Now

Many teens step into the workforce unaware of how much they will actually take home. Charla emphasizes that understanding paycheck deductions early prevents surprises and financial miscalculations. Learning these concepts in advance allows teens to budget wisely and make informed financial decisions from their first job onward.

* Where Does the Money Go?

Teens often assume they get to keep every dollar they earn. Charla breaks down gross pay vs. net pay, explaining deductions for federal and state taxes, Social Security, and Medicare. Through examples and interactive exercises, students see firsthand how much money is deducted before their paycheck reaches their bank account.

* How to Predict Take-Home Pay

Understanding paycheck deductions is an essential life skill. Charla introduces paycheck calculators and simple methods to estimate take-home pay before even accepting a job. This helps teens set realistic financial expectations and avoid overspending based on incorrect assumptions about their income.

Call to Action:

* Download the Lesson Materials: Links to the forms and worksheets used in the webinar are available in the show notes. Encourage your teen to follow along and complete the exercises.
* Try the Paycheck Calculator: Use the free online paycheck calculator linked in the blog to experiment with different job scenarios.
* Start the Conversation: Has your teen received their first paycheck yet? How did they react to the deductions? Share your stories and insights in the comments or on social media!

Connect With Us:

* Read more on Charla’s blog: https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog
* Subscribe to our email list: Stay updated on new episodes and helpful financial lessons for teens! https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/subscribe-1
* Explore our courses: Give your teen the financial head start they deserve. https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/
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8 months ago
14 minutes 42 seconds

It's Not About Money
Small Steps, Big Confidence
Small Steps, Big Confidence: 18 Year Old Kate Shares Her Journey 
In this episode of *It’s Not About Money*, Charla is once again joined by her daughter, Kate, to dive into an important topic—confidence. As a high school senior preparing for college, Kate shares her perspective on how she built confidence over time and how parents can support their kids in becoming independent, self-assured young adults.

Key Topics Covered: 

- How Confidence Develops Over Time

Kate reflects on how confidence isn’t something you wake up with one day—it grows through experiences and small wins. She shares how being encouraged to handle things on her own, rather than having her parents step in, helped her develop resilience and belief in herself.

- Taking Small Steps to Build Independence 

Charla explains how she intentionally gave Kate opportunities to practice independence in low-risk situations, such as taking her first solo flight in middle school. These experiences helped prepare Kate for bigger moments, like traveling abroad with her school group.

- Handling Real-World Challenges 

Kate recounts situations where she had to rely on her own problem-solving skills, such as staying home alone for the first time, dealing with minor car accidents, and even navigating a difficult breakup. Each experience reinforced her ability to handle tough situations on her own.

- Overcoming Fears Through Experience 

One of the most entertaining stories Kate shares is how she faced her lifelong fear of roaches while living in a dorm over the summer. Instead of panicking, she took charge, realizing that her ability to handle small fears helped build confidence in other areas of life.

- Why Parents Should Step Back 

Charla emphasizes the importance of allowing kids to figure things out for themselves. Whether it’s making phone calls, cooking meals, or handling difficult conversations, parents who always step in may unintentionally hold their kids back from gaining confidence.

 Call to Action: 

* Catch Up: If you have not listened to the first episode in this series (28 Skills Every Teen Should Master) or downloaded the list from the blog, go back and get caught up!  You will be glad you did.
* Reflect: Are you giving your child enough opportunities to practice independence? Consider small ways to let them take the lead.
* Join the Discussion: What’s the biggest confidence-building moment you’ve seen in your child? Share your thoughts with us here in the comments or on social media!

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8 months ago
22 minutes 22 seconds

It's Not About Money
28 Skills Every Teen Should Master
28 Skills Every Teen Should Master 
In this episode, Charla is joined by a special guest—her daughter, Kate! As Kate prepares to head off to college, they discuss the essential life skills every teen should master before leaving home. From money management to car maintenance, Kate shares her experiences, successes, and challenges in becoming independent.

Key Topics Covered: 

- Learning to Spend Wisely  Kate has always been a natural saver, but Charla explains why learning to spend money wisely is just as important. To help her practice, Charla implemented an allowance system where Kate is responsible for buying her own Starbucks and gifts for friends. This approach has helped Kate become more intentional with her spending while still holding onto her saver mindset. 

- Working in High School vs. College  Unlike her brother, Jack, who worked throughout high school, Kate focused on her rigorous coursework and extracurriculars. Charla emphasizes that every child is different, and parents should tailor their expectations to their teen’s individual needs. While Kate didn’t work in high school, she understands that working in college will be necessary to support her lifestyle. 

- Basic Cooking Skills  Kate openly admits that cooking is not a priority for her. With a diet consisting of grilled cheese, buttered noodles, and Rice Krispie treats, she has mastered just enough to get by. Charla highlights the importance of knowing your child’s personality and teaching them the skills they’re willing to learn, rather than forcing unnecessary lessons. 

- Jump-Starting a Car!  One of Kate’s biggest confidence boosters has been learning how to jump-start a car. After experiencing a few dead batteries, she took control and even demonstrated the process for her classmates. This skill has given her a sense of independence, proving that small wins can significantly boost a teen’s confidence. 

- Researching & Negotiating Purchases  Whether buying gifts or shopping for herself, Kate is a meticulous researcher. She shares how she overcame her hesitation with secondhand shopping, learning to compare options and make informed decisions. Charla offers insights into helping teens understand different online marketplaces and how to spot good deals.

Call to Action: 

* Get the list: Check out Charla’s blog for a full checklist of essential life skills teens should master before leaving home.
* Reflect: Are there skills your teen still needs to learn? Consider using Charla’s checklist as a guide to help them gain independence.
* Join the Discussion: What life skills do you think are most important for teens? Connect with us on social media or leave a comment here! We want to hear from you!!!

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- Read more about this topic and other discussions on Charla’s blog: [https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog](https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog)

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8 months ago
19 minutes 1 second

It's Not About Money
Making An Allowance Count
3 Keys to Making an Allowance Count Part 2
In this episode, Matt and Charla dive into listener questions about allowance, covering everything from when to start giving one, how to handle unwise spending choices, and whether all kids should receive an allowance at the same time. Charla provides expert insights on structuring allowance to teach financial responsibility, while Matt keeps the conversation fun and engaging with real-life examples.

Key Topics Covered:

-  Do Siblings Need Allowance at the Same Time? It’s common to assume all kids should receive an allowance at the same time, but Charla challenges this idea. Allowance is a tool for teaching money management, not a right of passage based on age. She explains how parents can stagger allowances based on a child’s readiness, responsibility, and ability to handle money.

-  What If My Child Wants to Spend Their Money on Something Unwise? One of the hardest things for parents is watching kids make financial mistakes. Charla and Matt discuss the importance of letting kids experience small financial failures now—when the stakes are low—so they avoid costly mistakes in adulthood. They share how parents can guide children toward smart spending decisions without taking control.

-  When Should You Start Giving an Allowance? Is seven too young? Charla explains that age isn’t the best indicator—maturity and readiness matter more. She offers tips on evaluating when your child is ready and how to keep the process simple in the early years.

-  What If I’ve Already Been Paying for Chores? Some parents worry that switching from a chore-based allowance will be confusing. Charla reassures listeners that they can transition smoothly by implementing a structured spending plan, ensuring kids understand that allowance is for financial learning, while household chores remain a family responsibility.

-  How Much Should You Give, and When Should You Increase It? Charla shares a practical formula for setting allowance amounts and explains that as kids get older, their allowance should grow—but only alongside increased financial responsibilities. She and Matt break down how parents can shift financial decision-making to their kids while maintaining structure and boundaries.

Call to Action: 

* Catch Up: If you have not listened to the first episode in this series or read the blog on allowance, go back and get caught up!  You will be glad you did.
* Reflect: Are you giving your child an allowance with a clear purpose? Consider how you can refine your approach to teach valuable financial lessons.
* Join the Discussion: Do you have a question you would like answered? We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us on social media or drop a comment.

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- Read more about this topic and other discussions on Charla’s blog: [https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog](https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog)

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8 months ago
19 minutes 34 seconds

It's Not About Money
3 Ways to Make an Allowance Count
3 Keys to Making an Allowance Count
In this episode, Matt and Charla break down the topic of allowance and how parents can use it as a tool to teach kids financial responsibility. They explore the dos and don’ts of giving an allowance, the importance of consistency, and why it should never be tied to chores. Charla shares practical insights on structuring allowance in a way that builds lifelong money skills, while Matt adds his signature humor and real-life experiences.

Key Topics Covered:

-  Allowance as a Payday for Kids: Kids need to learn that money comes at regular intervals, just like a paycheck. When allowance is given consistently, it creates financial stability and helps children develop budgeting skills. Charla explains how irregular allowance can lead to money anxiety and unhealthy financial habits.

-  Why You Shouldn’t Tie Allowance to Chores: Paying kids for chores might seem logical, but it can backfire. Charla and Matt discuss why household responsibilities should be part of being in a family—not something kids expect payment for. They share how detaching allowance from chores prevents entitlement and builds a stronger work ethic.

-  The Purpose Behind Allowance: An allowance isn’t just free money; it’s a tool for learning financial literacy. Charla lays out a simple structure that helps kids learn to allocate their money wisely—spending, saving, giving, and even preparing for unexpected expenses.

-  How Much Should You Give? One of the most common questions parents ask is how much allowance to give. Charla provides a flexible formula based on age and family dynamics, explaining how to make adjustments that fit your child’s needs.

Call to Action: 

* Reflect: Are you using allowance as a teaching tool, or just handing out money? Consider how you can adjust your approach to maximize its benefits.
* Read More: Check out Charla’s blog for deeper insights and real-life strategies for teaching kids about money.
* Join the Discussion: How do you handle allowance in your home? We’d love to hear your experiences! Connect with us on social media or drop a comment.

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- Read more about this topic and other discussions on Charla’s blog: [https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog](https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog)

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8 months ago
19 minutes 27 seconds

It's Not About Money
Traditions with Heart
Traditions with Heart- Raising Grateful Kids on Valentine’s Day and Beyond
In this heartwarming episode of It’s Not About Money, Matt and Charla explore the power of intentional family traditions and how they can shape kids' values, foster gratitude, and create lasting memories. With Valentine’s Day just around the corner, Charla shares some of the creative traditions she established with her children and why saying "no" on ordinary days is an important part of raising financially mindful and grateful kids.

Key Topics Covered:

- The Importance of Waiting: Charla explains why it’s critical for kids to distinguish between "ordinary" and "special" days. She shares her strategy of saying "no" to impulse buys and how it taught her children patience, gratitude, and the value of waiting for special moments.

- Honest Conversations About Money: Instead of telling kids, “We can’t afford it,” Charla recommends framing financial choices as intentional decisions about where to allocate resources. This approach helps kids understand priorities and builds trust.

- The Power of Family Traditions: Matt and Charla discuss the Valentine’s Trail—a unique family tradition involving handmade heart confetti, small gifts, and a big surprise at the end. Charla reflects on how these meaningful celebrations taught her kids to appreciate special days without fostering entitlement.

- Managing Expectations: Charla and Matt highlight the pitfalls of overindulging kids and how extravagant celebrations can backfire by creating unrealistic expectations. Instead, they advocate for thoughtful, balanced traditions that keep kids grounded and grateful.

- Parenting with Intentionality: Charla shares practical advice for parents on creating traditions, resisting the temptation to give in to every request, and fostering long-term values like gratitude and patience.

Call to Action: 

* Reflect: What family traditions do you currently have, and how do they teach your kids about gratitude and patience?
* Discuss: Sit down with your kids and explain why it’s important to save special treats or gifts for milestone days rather than giving them out regularly.
* Try It: Choose a milestone or holiday to celebrate with a new family tradition. Keep it simple but meaningful.

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- Read more about this topic and other discussions on Charla’s blog: [https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog](https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog)

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9 months ago
17 minutes 14 seconds

It's Not About Money
The $1 Burrito
The $1 burrito that transformed how I teach
In this episode of It’s Not About Money, Charla shares a pivotal parenting story featuring her son, Jack, and a $1 burrito that sparked a deeper understanding of financial responsibility. Jack joins Charla to reflect on the lessons he learned from managing his own budget as a middle schooler, including the value of saving, the impact of small decisions, and how these early experiences shaped his current financial habits.

The discussion dives into why it’s essential for parents to let their kids make “bad” money decisions on a small scale, how those lessons stick, and the importance of teaching kids to think beyond instant gratification.

Key Topics Covered:

- Teaching Money Skills Through Experience: Why giving kids control over their own budget—even if it means mistakes—builds long-term responsibility.

- Balancing Immediate Desires and Long-Term Goals: How Jack learned to prioritize saving for future needs over impulsive spending.

- The Power of Real-Life Lessons: Charla explains why hands-on financial experiences are more impactful than lectures.

- Building Financial Independence: How these lessons prepared Jack to handle larger financial responsibilities as an adult.

Key Takeaways:

- Give Kids Hands-On Experience: Allow your kids to manage a budget, even if they make mistakes—it’s a safe way for them to learn.

- Focus on the Big Picture: Teach kids to see how today’s choices affect their future financial goals.

- Be Patient with the Process: Small financial “missteps” today can lead to smarter decisions tomorrow.

- Encourage Reflection: Help kids evaluate their spending decisions to understand the impact of their choices.

Call to Action: 

* Reflect: How are you currently teaching your kids about money? Are there opportunities to give them more independence in managing their own budget?
* Discuss: Share a story with your kids about a financial decision you made and what you learned from it. Use this as a conversation starter about smart spending and saving.
* Try It: Consider giving your child a monthly “eating out” budget or another real-world money scenario to manage on their own.

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- Read more about this topic and other discussions on Charla’s blog: [https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog](https://beyondpersonalfinance.com/our-blog)

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9 months ago
16 minutes 53 seconds

It's Not About Money
Join us, Charla and Matt McKinley, as we delve into the world of parenting with a financial twist. This podcast is your go-to resource for raising responsible and ready adults, providing insights and actionable advice on money matters and beyond.