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Invest Like a Billionaire
Aspen Funds
192 episodes
2 days ago
The insider’s guide to alternative investing. Each week, join Aspen Funds’ Bob and Ben Fraser to hear the latest insights from the world of alternative investing. We’ll give you an inside look at the portfolios of everyday millionaires who are making real returns and passive income through alternative investments in real estate, private equity, hedge funds, and more. And we’ll keep you up-to-date with market news, macroeconomics and investable megatrends so you can invest with confidence. Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/ or join us at https://aspenfunds.us/
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The insider’s guide to alternative investing. Each week, join Aspen Funds’ Bob and Ben Fraser to hear the latest insights from the world of alternative investing. We’ll give you an inside look at the portfolios of everyday millionaires who are making real returns and passive income through alternative investments in real estate, private equity, hedge funds, and more. And we’ll keep you up-to-date with market news, macroeconomics and investable megatrends so you can invest with confidence. Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/ or join us at https://aspenfunds.us/
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Invest Like a Billionaire
Headlines: Will tariffs lead to a recession?

In our first Headlines episode, Bob Fraser joins Ben to talk about the big question on many Aspen investors' minds: are we heading towards a recession? With tariff news and trade war threats dominating the news cycle, it’s easy to get worried, so Bob and Ben are taking a look at what the data says and its impact for investors. 

Find out more at www.thebillionairepodcast.com/⁠ and preorder the Invest Like a Billionaire book ⁠⁠www.thebillionairebook.org/⁠

Check out Ben & Bob’s company and invest along at aspenfunds.us/⁠

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6 days ago
16 minutes 35 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
When the exit doesn’t go as planned with Curt Stevenson

Curt Stevenson has had a hugely successful career in tech consulting and entrepreneurship, and has lived through the big ups and some big downs. Curt’s ready to settle into an early retirement, so he shares with Ben how he’s building a portfolio that will offer him stable, reliable income for decades to come. 


Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/

And check out Ben & Bob’s company and invest along at https://aspenfunds.us/

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1 week ago
30 minutes 20 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
The Real Estate Professional Life Hack with Jordan Linscombe

Jordan Linscombe is a bold entrepreneur and a careful investor. He and his wife Mindi have built up their bridal shop – Something New Boutique – over the past 18 years into something amazing. So much so, that Jordan has taken his own path as a real estate professional to manage their assets. 

Check out Jordan’s business https://www.somethingnewboutique.com/ and his podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-something-new-show/id1673140441 

Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/

And check out Ben & Bob’s company and invest along at https://aspenfunds.us/

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2 weeks ago
24 minutes 42 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
How small buys turned into 7 figures in passive income with Wes Hill

Wes Hill has been in the real estate game since he was young. And he didn’t start with a trust fund or a legacy  – he built his 7-figure passive income portfolio through small steps, sacrifices and smart moves over many decades. Learn how Wes is thinking about real estate investing today after a career in the industry, and how you can build out your portfolio starting today.


Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/

And check out Ben & Bob’s company and invest along at https://aspenfunds.us/

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3 weeks ago
28 minutes

Invest Like a Billionaire
Moving across the world for the right investment with Francois Braine-Bonnaire

Francois Braine-Bonnaire knows how to jump on an opportunity. He moved across the world for the perfect investing moment, and it’s paid off. In this conversation, he shares his advice on when to go all in, when to walk away, and when to know you’ve peaked. 

Check out Francois’ life coaching business at www.tobeoptimized.com

Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/

And check out Ben & Bob’s company and invest along at https://aspenfunds.us/

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1 month ago
25 minutes 50 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
The Aspen Playbook – inside the Mind and Portfolio of Aspen Founder with Bob Fraser

A very special episode – Bob Fraser, co-founder of Aspen Funds (and father of Ben Fraser) is in the hot seat. Bob tells the story of how he has won it all, lost it all, and built it back up again. We go inside Bob’s portfolio to hear what asset classes he’s most excited about today, and what lessons he has learned from his decades of investing that are preparing him to weather the storms of the future.


Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/


Check out Ben & Bob’s company and invest along at https://aspenfunds.us/

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1 month ago
25 minutes 43 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
Invest Like a Billionaire is back!

Your favorite podcast about winning the alternative investing game is back, with a new focus. Every episode we’ll be taking you inside the portfolios of everyday millionaires to learn how they have built their successful portfolios. We’ll keep you up-to-date on the economics that matter to you, investable megatrends opportunities we’re watching closely. 

Make sure you’re subscribed so you don’t miss an opportunity to hear how you can be growing your wealth outside of the stock market today. 

Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/
Check out Ben & Bob’s company and invest along at https://aspenfunds.us/


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1 month ago
1 minute 19 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
184. The future of this podcast

An update on what's coming up in 2025. How to invest in the Trump economy (webinar): https://streamyard.com/watch/vgmee4YE2rAU Follow Aspen Funds LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/ ⁠⁠ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/

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5 months ago
5 minutes 14 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
183. Can Roth IRAs and S Corporations Help You Build Tax-Free Wealth?

Mark Kohler and Ben Fraser discuss tax strategies, asset protection, and the political landscape's impact on small businesses. They also touch on efficient business structures like the S corporation, the importance of revocable living trusts in estate planning, and the power of Roth IRAs for building tax-free wealth. Mark is the founder and board member at Direct IRA and Senior Partner at KKOS Lawyers.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds. Alternative investments in Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas: ⁠⁠⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠⁠⁠


Check out our latest offering in industrial real estate: ⁠⁠⁠https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a⁠⁠⁠


Explore our Private Credit fund: ⁠⁠⁠https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/⁠⁠⁠


Get in touch: ⁠⁠⁠https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-⁠⁠⁠


Download our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠⁠⁠


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠⁠⁠

Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/⁠⁠⁠


Connect with Ben Fraser ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠⁠⁠

Connect with Mark Kohler https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjkohler/

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6 months ago
38 minutes 21 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
182. What Are Today’s Best Opportunities in Multifamily Real Estate and Private Credit?

Steven Pesavento, Principal at Von Finch Capital, shares his journey in real estate, emphasizing mindset, financial strategy, and self-investment. We explore current market opportunities in multifamily real estate and private credit amidst economic shifts.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds. Alternative investments in Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas: ⁠⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠⁠


Check out our latest offering in industrial real estate: ⁠⁠https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a⁠⁠


Explore our Private Credit fund: ⁠⁠https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/⁠⁠


Get in touch: ⁠⁠https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-⁠⁠


Download our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: ⁠⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠⁠


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/⁠⁠ ⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠⁠

Facebook: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/⁠⁠


Connect with Ben Fraser ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠⁠

Connect with Steven Pesavento https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenpesavento/

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6 months ago
36 minutes 35 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
181. Building Wealth and Reducing Tax Burdens feat. Brett Swarts

This conversation with Brett Swarts explores the numerous benefits of DSTs, their role in deferring capital gains taxes beyond real estate transactions, and practical examples of people who have successfully applied this strategy.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds. Alternative investments in Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠


Check out our latest offering in industrial real estate: ⁠https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a⁠


Explore our Private Credit fund: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/⁠


Get in touch: ⁠https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-⁠


Download our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: ⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/⁠ ⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/⁠


Connect with Ben Fraser ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠

Connect with Brett Swarts https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-swarts/

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7 months ago
34 minutes 38 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
180. Making Homeownership Affordable feat. Frank Rohde

We discuss how Ownify's model allows first-time buyers to gradually purchase homes through fractional ownership, bypassing traditional mortgage hurdles.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds. Alternative investments in Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas: https://aspenfunds.us/


Check out our latest offering in industrial real estate: https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a


Explore our Private Credit fund: https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/


Get in touch: https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-


Download our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/ ⁠⁠

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/


Connect with Ben Fraser https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/

Connect with Frank Rohde https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankrohde/

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7 months ago
36 minutes 9 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
179. How to Maximize Real Estate Tax Benefits feat. Ryan Carriere

Ryan Carriere, co-host of the Tax Smart REI podcast and a Real Estate Tax Strategist at Hall CPA, explains the advantages and intricacies of real estate professional status and the short-term rental 'loophole,' highlighting strategies for both active and passive investors to optimize tax efficiency.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds. Alternative investments in Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas: ⁠⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠⁠  


Check out our latest offering in industrial real estate: ⁠⁠https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a⁠⁠  


Explore our Private Credit fund: ⁠⁠https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/⁠⁠ 


Get in touch: ⁠⁠https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-⁠⁠ 


Download our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: ⁠⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠⁠


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠⁠ 

Facebook: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/⁠ ⁠


Connect with Ben Fraser ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠⁠ 

Connect with Mark Miller https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryancarriere/

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7 months ago
43 minutes 40 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
178. How to Invest Like an American Dynasty: The Hilton Family Empire feat. Mark Miller

Mark Miller, President and CEO of Hilton Tax and Wealth Advisors, shares insights on the wealth management strategies employed by the ultra-wealthy, including the famous Hilton family. He explains how these strategies can be now adopted by average investors.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds. Alternative investments in Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠  


Check out our latest offering in industrial real estate: ⁠https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a⁠  


Explore our Private Credit fund: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/⁠ 


Get in touch: ⁠https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-⁠ 


Download our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: ⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/ ⁠ ⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠ 

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/ ⁠


Connect with Ben Fraser ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠ 

Connect with Mark Miller ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/markmiller-hiltonfo/⁠

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8 months ago
38 minutes 6 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
177. Why You Should Self-Insure Your Business feat. Van Carlson

We discuss why you should strongly consider self-insuring your business by leveraging the often-overlooked 831(b) tax code. Van Carlson, a risk management expert with 30 years of experience and Founder of SRA 831(b) Admin.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds. Alternative investments in Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas: https://aspenfunds.us/  


Check out our latest offering in industrial real estate: https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a  


Explore our Private Credit fund: https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/ 


Get in touch: https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative- 


Download our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/  ⁠⁠

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/ 


Connect with Ben Fraser https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/ 

Connect with Van Carlson https://www.linkedin.com/in/vancarlson/

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8 months ago
39 minutes 22 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
176. Democratizing Access to Flying Private Jets feat. Paul Svensen

Schedule a call with us: ⁠https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-⁠


Paul Svensen, CEO and Founder of UberJets, a platform designed to democratize private aviation access, explains how Uber Jets leverages advanced technology and empty-leg flights to offer a pay-as-you-fly model. This approach makes private jets more accessible to a wider audience. Paul discusses the business model, the benefits for aircraft owners, and how the platform is challenging traditional fractional ownership models.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds, focusing on Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas offerings for accredited investors: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠


Explore our latest investment opportunity in industrial real estate: ⁠https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a⁠ 


Explore our latest investment opportunity in Private Credit: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/⁠


⁠⁠Get our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: ⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/⁠  ⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠ 

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/⁠ 


Connect with Ben Fraser on LinkedIn ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠⁠

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8 months ago
28 minutes 33 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
175. 2024 Financial Freedom Hacks feat. Joey Mure

Schedule a call with us: https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-


Joey Mure, Co-Founder of Wealth Without Wall Street, discusses his journey from the corporate world to achieving financial freedom through passive income. He shares insights on the limitations of traditional investment strategies like 401(k)s and the benefits of creating cash flow through alternative investments.


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds, focusing on Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas offerings for accredited investors: https://aspenfunds.us/


Explore our latest investment opportunity in industrial real estate: https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a 


Explore our latest investment opportunity in Private Credit: https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/


Get our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/  ⁠⁠

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/ 


Connect with Ben Fraser on LinkedIn ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠
Connect with Joey Mure on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/joey-mure-b376824/⁠

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8 months ago
33 minutes 59 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
174. Top Trends to Watch in Industrial Real Estate | Top of Mind

We have a new Industrial deal: https://app.junipersquare.com/i/aspenfunds/offering/1bdbcf6a-da16-4e65-a675-31909415300a

Schedule a call with us: ⁠https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-⁠


Bob and Ben present compelling data from Newmark Zimmer showing significant increases in construction and job announcements in the US. They discuss the long-term mega trends affecting industrial assets, the shift towards secondary and tertiary markets, and the upcoming opportunities for investors.


Get our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: ⁠https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report⁠


Interested in our upcoming industrial real estate offering? Get notified first: ⁠https://share.hsforms.com/1JdTr6KMMR0-YKumCXZEa4Adir9h⁠


Explore our latest investment opportunity in Private Credit: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/⁠


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds which focuses on Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas offerings for accredited investors: ⁠https://aspenfunds.us/⁠ 


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/⁠  ⁠⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/⁠ 

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/⁠ 


Connect with Bob Fraser on LinkedIn ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobfraser10/

Connect with Ben Fraser on LinkedIn ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠

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9 months ago
17 minutes 6 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
173. Bringing Transparency to Private Investing feat. Pat Zingarella

Schedule a call with us: https://meetings.hubspot.com/mike-sullivant/ilab-speak-to-aspen-representative-


Pat Zingarella, a former corporate tech business consultant and startup advisor and Founder of Invest Clearly, recounts his transition from corporate America to entrepreneurship, inspired by his own investment challenges. He discusses the key features of Invest Clearly, how it serves both LPs and GPs, and its mission to foster transparency and trust in the investment world.


Get our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report


Interested in our upcoming industrial real estate offering? Get notified first: https://share.hsforms.com/1JdTr6KMMR0-YKumCXZEa4Adir9h


Explore our latest investment opportunity in Private Credit: https://aspenfunds.us/private-credit-fund/


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds which focuses on Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas offerings for accredited investors: https://aspenfunds.us/ 


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/  ⁠⁠

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/ 


Connect with Ben Fraser on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/

Connect with Pat Zingarella on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/pasqualezingarella/

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9 months ago
37 minutes 17 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
172. Industrial Real Estate Masterclass feat. Brent Peterson | How To Find the Best Industrial Real Estate Investments

Investor, get notified first when our industrial deal launches: https://share.hsforms.com/1JdTr6KMMR0-YKumCXZEa4Adir9h


This is not a commitment, just a way to give you exclusivity once we launch.


This episode is a masterclass on industrial real estate with Ben Fraser, CIO of Aspen Funds and Brent Peterson, Partner at NAI Heartland. We discuss how to find the best industrial real estate investments in 2024, and much more.


Interested in our upcoming industrial real estate deal? Get notified first: https://share.hsforms.com/1JdTr6KMMR0-YKumCXZEa4Adir9h


Get our FREE 2024 Economic Forecast: https://www.investwithaspen.com/free-economic-report


This podcast is sponsored by Aspen Funds which focuses on Private Credit, Industrial Real Estate, and Oil and Gas offerings for accredited investors: https://aspenfunds.us/


Follow Aspen Funds

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspen-funds/ ⁠⁠

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aspenfunds/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aspenfunds/


Connect with Ben Fraser on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/benwfraser/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Connect with Brent Peterson on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-peterson-6944a510/

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9 months ago
47 minutes 29 seconds

Invest Like a Billionaire
The insider’s guide to alternative investing. Each week, join Aspen Funds’ Bob and Ben Fraser to hear the latest insights from the world of alternative investing. We’ll give you an inside look at the portfolios of everyday millionaires who are making real returns and passive income through alternative investments in real estate, private equity, hedge funds, and more. And we’ll keep you up-to-date with market news, macroeconomics and investable megatrends so you can invest with confidence. Find out more at https://www.thebillionairepodcast.com/ or join us at https://aspenfunds.us/