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In Reality
New Thinking
84 episodes
1 week ago
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Two weeks ago, as we recorded this episode, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting closed its doors. As you no doubt know, Congress this summer voted to claw back money it had already approved to support the Corporation’s work. That work included, among other things, the distribution of federal ...
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Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Two weeks ago, as we recorded this episode, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting closed its doors. As you no doubt know, Congress this summer voted to claw back money it had already approved to support the Corporation’s work. That work included, among other things, the distribution of federal ...
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News Commentary
Business,
News,
Business News,
Marketing
Episodes (20/84)
In Reality
Without Federal Funding, What is Public Media Really? KCRW President Jennifer Ferro
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Two weeks ago, as we recorded this episode, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting closed its doors. As you no doubt know, Congress this summer voted to claw back money it had already approved to support the Corporation’s work. That work included, among other things, the distribution of federal ...
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1 week ago
43 minutes

In Reality
Courtney Radsch: Information is an Ecosystem. Without Journalism, It Collapses
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg—longtime journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. On this show we often describe the news and information system as an ecosystem, and it’s a good metaphor. The media landscape is complex, interconnected, dynamic—and, right now, deeply out of balance. The guest today, Courtney Radsch, has spent her career studying the system from many angles: as a journ...
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3 weeks ago
41 minutes

In Reality
Understanding The Stories That Divide Us with Harmony Labs' Brian Waniewski
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. The cliche about disinformation is you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. What that formulation ignores though is that the facts that we regard as true, the opinions we hold as core beliefs are built on top of the stories we tell ourselves. Stories are the way we humans make...
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1 month ago
39 minutes

In Reality
How To Think Clearly About The News In Your Feed with 'Effective Thinking' Expert Michael Starbird
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with host, Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. One of the hard things to face about the news ecosystem in this country at this time is that no one is coming to rescue us. There will be no Clean Air Act to take the fabrications and misconceptions and provocations out of our tragically polluted newsfeeds. If you want to consume news in a healthy wa...
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1 month ago
51 minutes

In Reality
Politics Without Polarization in Iowa with Governor Candidate Rob Sand (Democrat)
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Even in America, there is at least one sign that tribal loyalty doesn’t always dictate political outcomes. Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina—Republican majority states all—have elected Democratic governors. For a healthy democracy, Eric think that’s a good thing. Which is why Eric finds today’s gue...
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2 months ago
23 minutes

In Reality
Signs of Revival In Local News. No, Really! - Indiegraf's Erin Millar
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media hosted by Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Any listener to In Reality is aware of the crisis in local news. It’s a five alarm fire. It’s the news desertification of rural America. And so, we can admire the problem forever. But one of the goals of this program is to highlight the people who are attacking journalism’s problems of trust and susta...
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3 months ago
42 minutes

In Reality
"What Journalism Needs Now Is Not What Journalists Think" with Richard Gingras (Google & Village Media) and Tom Rosenstiel (UMD)
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg, long-time journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. We’ve been trying to suss out the future of media for the past few weeks by talking about the present of it. The rise of influencers, the decline of local media, the mercurial psyche of audiences. Okay. So where does journalism go from here? How does it fulfill its role in a democracy rebuild tr...
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3 months ago
50 minutes

In Reality
AI In The Newsroom: The Humanoid In The Loop with Perplexity AI's Jessica Chan and Troy Thibodeaux from the Associated Press
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media. I’m your host, Eric Schurenberg, long-time journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. You cannot talk about the future of media, or the future of anything for that matter, without talking about AI. What generative AI does is pretty much exactly what journalism does: digest information, highlight what matters and render it to an audience in a fetching, attention grabbing way....
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4 months ago
36 minutes

In Reality
Three Top Influencers on Building Trust Amid the Chaos: Kate Bacon, David Pakman, and Eric Newcomer
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media. I’m your host, Eric Schurenberg, a longtime journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. In previous episodes of In Reality, when we’ve talked about media, we’ve focused mostly on legacy outlets—and their simultaneous crises of evaporating trust and shrinking revenues. But that neglects the far healthier and arguably more influential part of today’s national conversation—influ...
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4 months ago
50 minutes

In Reality
How Media Makes Money Today (It's Not Easy) with CEO of The Meteor Cindi Leive
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media. I’m Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. We talk a lot about the economic challenges, not to say cataclysm, that news media has been through in recent decades. Even the most storied brands have found themselves striking advertising deals they’d never have considered a decade before, or scrambling for scraps of revenue in dark corners like Award programs? Branded cont...
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5 months ago
43 minutes

In Reality
What Are You Really Seeking When You Click On News? University of Delaware's Prof Dannagal Young
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and the media with Eric Schurenberg, a longtime journalist, now executive director of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Have you ever thought about what you are really doing when you scroll for news, or click on a headline that pops up in your feed? The quick answer is, “I want to know what’s happening in the world.” Or, more pompously, I’m seeking the truth. Sure. But when you’re honest you have to admit that you’re mostly sucked ...
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5 months ago
36 minutes

In Reality
First Aid for the Local News Emergency with Local News Accelerator Mackenzie Warren (Northwestern University)
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and the media. I’m your host Eric Schurenberg, long time journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media The news business has been in freefall, as every listener to In Reality is aware. The plunge has been steepest in local journalism. We lose two local news outlets a week, on average. Half the counties in America have only one news outlet or none at all. Dousing that five alarm fire is th...
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6 months ago
42 minutes

In Reality
If News Is So Important, Why Can't It Make Money? with Historic Media Executive Norman Pearlstine
Americans have long had a conflicted attitude about political news. On the one hand, most Americans, Republicans and Democrats, see the press as an essential watchdog on government. This is not a new idea: The founders of the country singled out the press for protection from government interference for just that reason. At the same time, sizable majorities of Republicans and independents today--and a good many Democrats besides--have little to no trust in professional media to report th...
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6 months ago
35 minutes

In Reality
The Rise of the Personal Media Brand with Eric Newcomer Founder of the Newcomer Media Outlet
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and the media hosted by Eric Schurenberg, a long-time journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Among the many forces unravelling institutional media is the relatively recent ability of journalists to become mini-institutions on their own, thanks to social media and especially newsletter platforms like Substack and Ghost. For journalists with a following or a novel approach, going in...
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7 months ago
28 minutes

In Reality
In Democracy, You Can’t Avoid Conflicts. You Have To Just Do Them Better, with Human-Compatible AI Expert Jonathan Stray
In this conversation, Jonathan Stray, Senior Scientist at the UC Berkeley Center for Human-Compatible AI, explains to Eric Schurenberg the intersection of AI, media, and conflict, emphasizing the challenges of objectivity in journalism and the need for a new approach to reporting that embraces complexity and 'multipartiality'. He explores the role of AI in shaping social media narratives and the potential for algorithms to foster better understanding in political discourse. Stray also highlig...
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7 months ago
37 minutes

In Reality
One Man’s Plan To Rebuild Atlanta’s Hometown Newsroom: The AJC’s President Andrew Morse
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about Truth, Disinformation, and the Media hosted by Eric Schurenberg, a long-time journalist and media exec, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Media overall is in dire straits financially, as In Reality listeners are well aware. Local journalism has been the hardest hit: We’ve lost a third of the papers we had twenty years ago and continue to lose, on average, two a week. Most of the rest have been hollowed out. Which makes today’s g...
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8 months ago
34 minutes

In Reality
How To Talk With (& Listen To) The Other Side with 'The Fearless Conversationalist' Mónica Guzmán
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about Truth, Disinformation and the Media with Eric Schurenberg, a long-time journalist and media exec, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. In Reality is dedicated to the proposition that there is such a thing as objective truth and that the pursuit of it is a noble effort, one that over the centuries has increased human well being. Some objectively verifiable claims are the source of division in the US right now: the 2020 Presidential...
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8 months ago
40 minutes

In Reality
The Other AI Arms Race: "Defender" AI vs Deepfakes - Reality Defender CEO Ben Colman
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about Truth, Disinformation, and the Media. I'm Eric Schurenberg, a long-time journalist and media exec, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Just when you thought it could not get harder to recognize truth in your newsfeed, along comes artificial intelligence. Now it’s child’s play for bad actors to create fake news, fake videos, fake pornography at digital scale and in quality all but impossible to detect. As deepfakes multiply, reality itse...
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8 months ago
27 minutes

In Reality
Why Influencers Have Trust and Journalists Don’t with 'The Future of Trustworthy Information' Author Julia Angwin
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth and the media with Eric Schurenberg, a long-time journalist and media exec, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. It’s not exactly news that the traditional news business is in decline. Most distressing to those of us who grew up in the profession: that audience levels of trust in the work we do has dropped to the lowest levels ever recorded. Today’s guest, Julia Angwin, back for a second time on In Reality, is like Eric a produc...
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9 months ago
41 minutes

In Reality
Is Truth Dead? With Co-Founder of NewsGuard Steven Brill
Welcome to in Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and the media. I’m your host Eric Schurenberg, a long-time journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. On previous episodes, we discussed how you can distinguish between reliable news online and unreliable, story by story. An obvious shortcut is simply to only read or view stories from places that you know to be reliable in advance. But these days, how do you know who is reliable? ...
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9 months ago
54 minutes

In Reality
Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation, and the media with Eric Schurenberg, longtime journalist and media executive, now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media. Two weeks ago, as we recorded this episode, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting closed its doors. As you no doubt know, Congress this summer voted to claw back money it had already approved to support the Corporation’s work. That work included, among other things, the distribution of federal ...