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Human Together

Sarah E. Westfall

23 episodes

5 months ago

After an unplanned break, we are wrapping up season two and our series on belonging with a roundtable discussion. I’ve invited two guests—Brittany Tinsley and Rohadi Nagassar—to join me in responding to your lingering questions that have surfaced from fellow listeners or readers of The Way of Belonging. My desire with these roundtable conversations is not only to bring in voices other than my own, but also to allow room for a variety of thoughts, beliefs, and experiences so that we can continue to walk in compassion, curiosity, and humility as we learn to live more deeply with God and each other.

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After an unplanned break, we are wrapping up season two and our series on belonging with a roundtable discussion. I’ve invited two guests—Brittany Tinsley and Rohadi Nagassar—to join me in responding to your lingering questions that have surfaced from fellow listeners or readers of The Way of Belonging. My desire with these roundtable conversations is not only to bring in voices other than my own, but also to allow room for a variety of thoughts, beliefs, and experiences so that we can continue to walk in compassion, curiosity, and humility as we learn to live more deeply with God and each other.

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Society & Culture

Episodes (20/23)

Human Together

S2 Finale: A Roundtable on Belonging with Rohadi Nagassar & Brittany Tinsley

After an unplanned break, we are wrapping up season two and our series on belonging with a roundtable discussion. I’ve invited two guests—Brittany Tinsley and Rohadi Nagassar—to join me in responding to your lingering questions that have surfaced from fellow listeners or readers of The Way of Belonging. My desire with these roundtable conversations is not only to bring in voices other than my own, but also to allow room for a variety of thoughts, beliefs, and experiences so that we can continue to walk in compassion, curiosity, and humility as we learn to live more deeply with God and each other.

9 months ago

59 minutes 43 seconds

Human Together

S2, E9: Creativity, Not Competition with Merideth Hite Estevez

Creativity does not often come up in conversations about belonging, but in this episode, Sarah talks with Dr. Merideth Hite Estevez (professional oboist and author of The Artist’s Joy) about how reconnecting to our creative identity (yes, all of us…) changes not only how we see ourselves but also how we relate with God and each other. They talk about widening the definition of creativity and handling competition. Merideth also offers some practical questions to reconnect with our creativity and the joy of making, whatever it is that we make.

1 year ago

43 minutes 18 seconds

Human Together

S2, E8: Self-Care & Communal Flourishing with Tiffany Bluhm

Sarah chats with Tiffany Bluhm (author of The Women We’ve Been Waiting For) about redefining self-care as it relates to our identity, our hunt for wholeness, and our communal flourishing.

1 year ago

33 minutes 50 seconds

Human Together

S2, E7: How Much of Me is Welcome? with Jon Pyle

Whether you are in the pulpit or the pews, you might question how much of yourself is welcome in faith spaces. In this episode, Sarah chats with Jon Pyle (Community Care Pastor in San Antonio) about giving and receiving welcome within the church, especially when you carry questions or wounds.

1 year ago

47 minutes 50 seconds

Human Together

S2, E6: Beyond Othering with Jenai Auman

Sarah is joined by Jenai Auman to talk about our human tendency to lean toward sameness and distance ourselves from people who are different. Jenai shares her own experience of being “othered” and how placing people into us-versus-them categories can be so damaging to not only our worth but also how we relate. Together, they explore how we can move toward a wider, more welcoming way.

1 year ago

47 minutes 26 seconds

Human Together

S2, E5: Choosing to Stay with Sara Billups

Continuing our series on belonging, Sarah and guest Sara Billups dive into the notion of staying put—both to a geographical location but also to the church. Sara shares pieces of her own story as they ask: how does attaching ourselves to places and people affect our sense of belonging? Where and how might God be inviting us to stay?

1 year ago

Human Together

S2, E4: Authenticity & Attachment with Aundi Kolber

Sarah talks with Aundi Kolber (therapist and author of Try Softer™ and Strong Like Water) about the interplay between authenticity and attachment. They talk about how our sense of belonging and ability to connect are affected when we carry unrepaired relational wounds. Aundi also offers some hard-earned wisdom on how we can take small steps toward healing while still honoring the experiences that have brought us where we are.

1 year ago

53 minutes 5 seconds

Human Together

S2, E3: Reconnect to What's Within with Chuck DeGroat

In this third conversation in our series on belonging, Sarah talks with Chuck DeGroat (professor, licensed therapist, & author of Healing What’s Within) about how so many of us live “habitually disconnected.” Together, they explore what it might look like to pay attention to our internal landscape and longings as a means of finding our way back home to ourselves, to God, and to each other.

1 year ago

38 minutes 44 seconds

Human Together

S2, E2: Coming Home to Ourselves with Kimberly Phinney

Who we are and how we relate are intimately connected. In this episode, guest Kimberly Phinney shares how life-threatening illness shifted not only her sense of self but also her pursuit of belonging. Sarah and Kimberly talk about identity based on performance, expanding our definition of belonging, and valuing presence in the midst of pain.

1 year ago

40 minutes 2 seconds

Human Together

S2, E1: Perpetually Out of Place with Prasanta Verma

Loneliness is part of the human experience, but ethnic loneliness carries added layers of complexity for many people who have historically been pushed to the margins. In our season two opener, Sarah talks with Prasanta Verma about the ache to belong, how our “in-betweenness” can be essential to one’s identity, and practicing curiosity with ourselves and others.

1 year ago

34 minutes 11 seconds

Human Together

S1, E12: A Pastor’s Journey with Steve Bezner

We’re wrapping up season one with Steve Bezner, and this episode covers a number of bases. Steve shares about his own pastoral journey, the communities that have formed him as well as the loneliness he can experience within the role. Sarah and Steve also chat about his forthcoming book Your Jesus is Too American (October 2024).

1 year ago

31 minutes 19 seconds

Human Together

S1, E11: Practice Hospitality with Linnea Bergstrom

Sarah chats with Linnea Bergstrom about hospitality in the middle of our everyday lives. Linnea shares how she has had to rethink her approach to welcoming people into her home and a few practical ways she is learning to invite others in.

1 year ago

29 minutes 57 seconds

Human Together

S1, E10: The Risk of Rootedness with Amanda Held Opelt

Musician and writer Amanda Held Opelt joins Sarah to talk about what place has to do with the communal life. They cover a little bit of everything: church, creative circles, online life, as well as Amanda’s latest book Holy Unhappiness: God, Goodness, and the Myth of the Blessed Life.

1 year ago

51 minutes 19 seconds

Human Together

S1, E9: A Curious Compassion with Brandy Wallner

Sarah chats with Brandy Wallner about curiosity and compassion—two ingredients that are essential to being human together, but don’t always come easily. Brandy shares pieces of her own in-process journey of growing up with a strong sense of duty and desire to be right as well as what she is actively learning about finding comfort in questions and embracing with-ness as a way of Jesus.

1 year ago

35 minutes 43 seconds

Human Together

S1, E8: Finding Poetry within the Pain with Grace E. Kelley

Poet Grace E. Kelley sits down with Sarah to talk about goodness that grows out of the ground and out of our grief. They chat about Grace’s newfound farm life, navigating wounds and weariness, and her new collection of poetry, as the Sparrow flies.

1 year ago

29 minutes 34 seconds

Human Together

S1, E7: A Simpler Way to Love with Gary Morland

Gary Morland joins Sarah to talk about what he has learned about the communal life through 51 years of marriage. They talk about the complexities of being committed to another person for the long haul and how small acts of love go a long way in how we relate to one another.

1 year ago

33 minutes 48 seconds

Human Together

S1, E6: Knowing When to Stay or Go with Emily P. Freeman

Sarah and guest Emily P. Freeman talk about the shared struggle we often experience when trying to decide whether to stay or to go. Whether we are assessing relationships, ideas, faith communities, or the PTA, these decisions often carry the weightiness of a capital D. In this conversation, Emily shares some of the wisdom she has collected in her latest book How to Walk into a Room, giving us a framework for paying attention and discerning our way forward with peace and compassion.

1 year ago

37 minutes 24 seconds

Human Together

S1, E5: Embracing Limits & Being Held with Lara d'Entremont

Sarah is joined by Lara d’Entremont, who generously shares her story of navigating anxiety amidst the throes of motherhood. They chat about the pressure we often put upon ourselves to “have it all together” and learning to live within our own limitations, while also inviting the love and care of God and other people along the way.

1 year ago

32 minutes 18 seconds

Human Together

S1, E4: Peace in the Dark with Jessica Herberger

Sarah chats with author and Bible teacher Jessica Herberger about the significance of Holy Saturday, both in the context of our current season of Lent and our in-between days of darkness. Jess shares a bit about caregiving for her parents and how that season was formative to herself and her family. They also go in-depth about the days leading us toward Easter, exploring the invitation found within her latest book Peace in the Dark.

1 year ago

38 minutes 15 seconds

Human Together

S1, E3: Stay with the Questions with Drew Jackson

Sarah is joined by pastor, poet, and public theologian Drew Jackson, and they talk about how questions have become formative to Drew’s work and to the way he sees relates to God, himself, and the world. They also chat about poetry, pastoring, and cultivating a life of paying attention.

1 year ago

31 minutes 46 seconds