Listen to Christopher Copeland on Fathoms In this episode, we talk to Sandra C. Smith, an Enneagram teacher, about her new book, The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type. [2:44] Getting to know Sandra through summer-themed questions [8:26] Sandra’s personal journey with the Enneagram [12:19] Sandra’s teachers, their influences on her and how they show up in her book [17:16] Defining type and why is understanding that you’re more than and not just your type is important for your growth [25:37] How Sandra’s strengths show up as she wrote her book [29:19] The dualities of the types [41:39] This yearning to open ourselves to more of what we are [47:21] Prompt for each type to help them reframe and move beyond their own limited perspective [52:24] Why we should buy Sandra’s book and where they can buy it Follow Sandra’s work: Alchemy Works // @sandrasmithalchemyworks // Heart of the Enneagram Podcast // “The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type” — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Serious Work for Unserious Humans.” — Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Support our podcast: https://fathomspodcast.com/support Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram Follow Creek: @_creekmore Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm