192: Breaking the Rescue Cycle: How to Attract Clients Without Losing Yourself With Michaela Pay

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Goals With Soul

Joanna Ingram

217 episodes

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Welcome to Goals With Soul, the podcast for visionary coaches and healers on a journey to express their unique brilliance and attract high-value clients by building a brand from within. I'm Joanna Ingram, Brand Messaging Consultant and Premium Positioning Guide, blending 20+ years in marketing with intuitive strategy and spiritual alignment. Here, we dive deep into messaging, positioning, offers, and energetics, aligning your marketing with your purpose so you can magnetize clients who resonate deeply with your work. Let’s elevate your business with authenticity, intuition, and soul!

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192: Breaking the Rescue Cycle: How to Attract Clients Without Losing Yourself With Michaela Pay

Goals With Soul

50 minutes 19 seconds

6 months ago

192: Breaking the Rescue Cycle: How to Attract Clients Without Losing Yourself With Michaela Pay

Welcome to Goals with Soul! If you’ve ever felt stuck in frustrating client dynamics - like you’re always "saving" people or pushing uphill - this episode will change everything.

I’m joined by spiritual mentor Michaela Pay, whose journey from skeptical personal trainer to intuitive keynote speaker and bestselling author, has transformed how she sees business and personal growth. And today, she’s here to introduce you to the Drama Triangle - a hidden pattern that keeps us trapped in toxic roles.

Michaela shares a hilarious CrossFit story that perfectly illustrates how we unconsciously slip into these roles of Hero, Victim or Villain, and how recognizing them can revolutionize the way we lead, coach, and serve.

Tune in for these key insights from our conversation:

- Why playing the hero actually disempowers your clients

- How to attract self-led, high-frequency clients

- The hidden motivations behind your business struggles

- How to make a powerful shift that creates real transformation

Michaela is the "least spiritual, spiritual person", so expect grounded, no-nonsense wisdom that will shake up how you show up in your work.

Pour yourself something delicious, grab a notebook, and tune in now...your business (and future clients) will thank you!

Enjoy the listen!

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You can find Michaela on Instagram and Facebook, and check out her book, Dismantling the Drama Triangle, here.

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