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Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Dave Hamilton & Friends
50 episodes
5 days ago
Wanna talk shop with your musical buddies? Look no further than Gig Gab, The Working Musician's Podcast! Each week Dave Hamilton and friends come to you sharing their gigging experiences, tips and tricks learned, and interviews with other weekend warriors and pros.
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Wanna talk shop with your musical buddies? Look no further than Gig Gab, The Working Musician's Podcast! Each week Dave Hamilton and friends come to you sharing their gigging experiences, tips and tricks learned, and interviews with other weekend warriors and pros.
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Music Commentary
Music,
Music History,
Music Interviews
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Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Sound Better, Gig Smarter: Tools, Tips, and Gear That Work
In this solo hang, you dig into the real tools that keep your sound clean and your gigs tight. You’ll learn how to tame noisy tracks with the Accusonus ERA bundle, Waves Clarity Vx, and iZotope RX, plus a few quick tricks from SoundDesk to make your mixes shine. Then it’s time to talk ears—Huberman-style—with magnesium and NAC tips for keeping your hearing sharp long-term. Because if you can’t hear it, you can’t play it.
Listener questions hit everything from cleaning your old Ultimate Ears to handling last-minute gig cancellations, balancing bar shows with private gigs, and keeping your band’s calendar under control. You’ll even pick up some practical gig wisdom—like the right way to tie up cables and hoses. Finally, gear gets its due with reviews of the Alesis Turbo Max electronic kit and Dark Matter DMA6 custom IEMs, plus hot takes on the Roland DrumLink, D’Addario Backline backpack, Zoom Q2n-4K, and microphone troubleshooting. It’s all about sharpening your setup, your sound, and your mindset—because you know the rule: Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 506 – Monday, November 3rd, 2025

November 3rd: National Sandwich Day
Guest co-host: You!


00:02:29 Cleaning Up Audio

Accusonus ERA Bundle V6.2 – https://matthiasott.com/notes/free-audio-plugins-accusonus-era-6-bundle
Waves Clarity Vx – https://waves.alzt.net/OePdWK
iZotope RX11 Voice De-noise – https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx/features/voice-de-noise
Waves NS1 – https://waves.alzt.net/4G4nqL
SoundDesk


00:09:49 Hearing Health

Huberman Hearing Health episode = Magnesium Glycinate + NAC for Dave.


Sponsors

00:16:06 SPONSOR: Claude.ai – Ready to tackle bigger problems? Sign up for Claude today and get 50% off Claude Pro, which includes access to Claude Code, when you visit Claude.ai/giggab


Listener Questions

00:19:08 Paul-How do I get my older pair of Ultimate Ears cleaned up?
00:21:28 Terry-A club canceled on me, where can I find a boilerplate booking contract to use?
00:24:51 Brian-Managing Band Member Availability
00:27:10 John-How do I balance bar gigs and private bookings?
00:32:49 Bill-Can you fold-tie extension cords or garden hoses, too?


Gear Gab

00:36:09 Review: Alesis Turbo Max — All-In-One Beginner Electronic Drum Kit Launches Today
00:40:00 Review: Dave’s new Dark Matter DMA6 BA 6 Custom IEMs


Gear Gab (and tech help)

00:48:41 Lane-CSF-D’Addario Backline Gig Backpacks – https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0821Q4BT3/giggab-20
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1 day ago
58 minutes 34 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Laughs, Life, and Lessons with James "Diamond" Williams from The Ohio Players
This week, you’re sitting down with funk legend James “Diamond” Williams from The Ohio Players! From his jazz roots and early gigs at age 14 to shaping the groove of “Love Rollercoaster” and “Fire,” Diamond shares how precision, persistence, and passion built one of the most iconic sounds in funk. You’ll hear stories of wild recording schedules, late-night gigs, and the unforgettable moment Stevie Wonder first heard “Fire.” Through it all, Diamond reminds you that love—and music—is truly a rollercoaster.
Diamond also talks about what it takes to keep a band together, why preparation is everything, and how to push your career forward when no one else will. His message? Stay seated, stay belted, and enjoy the ride. Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 505 – Monday, October 27th, 2025

October 27th: National Black Cat Day
Guest co-host: James “Diamond” Williams


00:03:35 Syncopated grooves

Jazz labs with his Dad
Gigging with jazz standards at 14 years old
All-City orchestra
Miami University
Marching band
Drum and Bugle Corps
All those influences


00:05:38 How did the drum fill intro for “I Want to Be Free” come together
00:10:16 Love Rollercoaster was an intentional pop hit

BTO was the “hit” band with Mercury when Ohio Players signed
Ohio Players told Mercury: “We need nothing from you but your money.”
Came in with a gold 45 and left with a Platinum album


00:14:08 Crazy recording schedule

Playing at the Red Onion in Buffalo, NY at night while recording in Chicago during the day
They set a goal: “Let’s write three platinum albums in a row.”


00:16:01 Stevie Wonder hears “Fire” for the first time
Sponsors

00:19:37 SPONSOR: GigSalad. Always Be Performing means “Always Be Booking”, too. Head to GigSalad.com to create your free profile today!

(and check out Gig Gab 482 with Mark Steiner from May, 2025, too!)


00:21:12 SPONSOR: Surfshark. Go to https://surfshark.com/giggab or use code giggab at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark VPN!


00:22:42 “I Want To Be Free” – Midnight Special viral clip on Instagram

Bands covering
Red Hot Chili Peppers cover Love Rollercoaster
D’Angelo
Tupac


00:24:47 The Ohio Players and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Cincinnati Black Music Walk of Fame induction


00:28:42 Keep pushing for your career… you are your best advocate
00:32:42 Balancing strong personalities within a band

Advice: Never stop!

Ohio Players were a band 24/7
Rehearsed five days a week


Hearing “Me & Mrs. Jones” everywhere when starting on tour

…and hearing “Skin Tight” the same way




00:37:43 It comes back to preparation!

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1 week ago
48 minutes 20 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Beyond The Stage: How Band Summits Change Everything
Mike Schulte returns to Gig Gab for a deep dive into the conversations that make bands stronger. You’ll explore how band summits—those intentional moments to step away from gigs and just talk—can reset your focus, rebuild trust, and make your group operate like a real team. From redefining what success looks like to refining how you plan your shows, this episode challenges you to look beyond the stage and invest in the relationships that keep your music alive.
You’ll also dig into the systems that make the difference between chaos and consistency: smarter scheduling, simplified setups, and knowing when to say “no” so your band can keep saying “yes” to the right gigs. Whether you’re touring every weekend or just playing local spots, this is the blueprint for staying connected, staying efficient, and, above all, staying true to the Gig Gab mantra—Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 504 – Monday, October 20th, 2025

October 20th: World Statistics Day
Guest co-host: Mike Schulte
A moment of self-congratulations


00:05:19 Pork Tornadoes had a packed summer…again!

Averaged 8 gigs per month from May to September
9 Shows in September, 11 in July
Started off as a bar band 18 years ago…now it’s a machine with employees
Each gig starts with $3,500 in fixed cost expenses and becomes a money machine


00:07:34 Making the internal decisions to set yourself up for future success

Learning your limits (three shows in a row for Pork Tornadoes)
Taking your contracted set time down (from 4 hours to 2 hours)
Rotating your setlist for every show…”you didn’t hear your favorite song tonight, come to the next show”
Training your crew so that you can arrive 30 minutes before soundcheck, and leave right after the encore
No more sharing hotel rooms. Each band member gets their own room. Keeps people healthier…and happier!
Simplifying our rig so that we can show up and play
Using Ethernet-based snakes like CAT-SASS


00:18:47 Building out your in-ears rack with intention

Gear Gab: Pork Tornadoes using the Midas DL251 Blue Box Rack
Mix with some drum overheads…you might find you like it!


00:23:14 Schedule a band summit

Discuss your goals
Just hang out, let the discussions happen
Be together, no gigs, no soundchecks, just a band retreat. This is how you level up with intention.


00:28:06 SPONSOR: Claude.ai – Ready to tackle bigger problems? Sign up for Claude today and get 50% off Claude Pro, which includes access to Claude Code, when you visit Claude.ai/giggab
00:29:49 SPONSOR: Square – See what Square has been up to in your neck of the woods, and then visit square.com/go/giggab
00:31:14 Gear Gab: Get the best kick drum sound you can with mics in the right place

May Turbo Kick
May Monorail


00:36:08 What happens when your band is pivotal to an event that is bigger than you?

Canceling the band means no one attends, no one gets to sell food, no merch, the fans who bought hotel rooms, etc


00:38:50 What are the options when a band member needs to cancel?
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2 weeks ago
59 minutes 7 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
The Power of the Page: Inside Cover Band Central’s Massive Reach with Steve Witschel
You’re diving into the power of persistence and adaptability in this episode of Gig Gab with guest co-host Steve Witschel. From building and moderating a 132,000-member Cover Band Central group to navigating Facebook’s monetization chaos with the nearly-1,000,000-member Facebook page, Steve shares how he transformed challenges into content gold. You’ll learn how he separates community-driven interaction in the group from content curation on the page—and how both have become invaluable tools. If you’re not treating your Facebook group like an encyclopedia, you’re missing out.
It’s not just about posts, it’s about presence. Steve walks you through using AI tools like Sora to streamline video creation and embraces the idea of turning everyday gig life into engaging fan-building content. Whether it’s filming someone lugging gear or crafting posts that stir emotions, your goal is to create superfans between shows.
And yes, Rush is back on tour with Anika Nilles on drums—Steve’s take? She’s approaching it like a seasoned cover band pro. Dave’s take? You gotta listen to hear it straight from the source!
Through it all, you’re reminded: embrace failure, evolve with tech, and above all… Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 503 – Monday, October 13th, 2025

October 6th: International Day for Failure
Guest co-host: Steve Witschel


00:03:59 Growing Cover Band Central

Dave’s Business Brain podcast
Handling the group differently than the page
The group has the audience provide the comment.
The page is Steve provide the content


00:05:49 Moderating the Cover Band Central group of 132,000 members

Setting the group private and setting post approval


00:10:48 Searching the group is an encyclopedia of information
00:12:09 Publishing the Cover Band Central page

Meta invited the page to a bonus program – Steve decided it was time to publish original content
Drummer jokes!


00:14:26 Rehearsing Thriller…and Human Nature, especially
00:18:34 Locking in with other musicians

Steve, the bass player: “I am the drums”
Learning about being locked-in from watching Dio and Dokken in 1988


Monetizing the group or page?


00:23:53 SPONSOR: Mechanical Licensing Collective – Are you a songwriter, music publisher, or administrator? Every month, The MLC collects the streaming data and royalties from Spotify and Apple Music, matches the money to the creator who has earned it, and then pays out the royalties due. Visit TheMLC.com today to sign up!
00:25:58 Making money from the Facebook group

The Facebook BreakthroughBonus program
Getting dinged for Facebook’s community standards (with no information)
Facebook’s Content Monetization Program


00:29:33 Time to Make Videos
00:30:25 Getting clients to advertise on Facebook

Selling an ad, and then buying Facebook ads to serve that on his page


00:35:08 Using AI as a work Assistant

Technology advances, and you have to roll with it!
Embrace change, folks.
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 15 minutes 1 second

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
From Load-In to Bus Call: A Tech’s Life on the Big Time Rush Tour with Stephen Kramer Glickman
Justin Scheidling takes us inside a day in the life of a touring tech, supporting the bands of Stephen Kramer Glickman and Katelyn Tarver on the Big Time Rush tour, from load-in to bus call. From labeling every cable and packing “JustInCase” bags to handling the curveballs of show days, you get the raw look at how a pro keeps the gig rolling. You’ll hear how gear obsession became the gateway to teching, what it’s like to set up drums straight off the truck, and why even a $3,000 gig has the same headaches as a $300 one. And yes, rain still finds its way to the PA. Through it all, Justin proves that the secret to surviving the road is simple: Always Be Performing.
But this isn’t just about tech work! It’s about career lessons you can steal borrow for your own gigs. You’ll learn why making yourself known by being helpful pays off, how meeting everyone opens doors, and how DJ percussion gigs and Blue Man Group tricks turned into a show-stopping side hustle. From backstage at Meadowbrook’s rock-star pool party to 3am bus calls, Justin makes it clear that every step of the grind adds to the craft. No matter the role—tech, player, or bandleader—you’re building skills that take you further on stage and off.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 502 – Monday, October 6th, 2025

October 6th: National Mad Hatter Day
Guest co-hosts: Justin Scheidling


00:02:50 First time nationwide drum tech!

Gear Acquisition Syndrome is real… and it helps set you up to become a drum tech!
Buddy Gibbons says.. “So… I need a tech!”
The job expands: Can you also work on guitars…and pianos?


00:05:40 Remembering the view of an outsider

Player first…but I run my own bands


00:07:53 What’s in your “JustInCase”

Labeling is important!
MakeItStay Bag
MakeItMove Bag


00:11:21 I want everyone on this tour to know who I am.

Do that by being helpful


00:13:00 Are my toolboxes going to make it on the plane?
00:14:33 Gig Anxiety

Fueled by experiences
Don’t plug the PA in with the refrigerator
A little bit extra…with Justin!


00:18:38 SPONSOR: GigSalad. Always Be Performing means “Always Be Booking”, too. Head to GigSalad.com to create your free profile today!

(and check out Gig Gab 482 with Mark Steiner from May, 2025, too!)


00:20:00 Show day as a drum tech

Walk the stage
Drums are still in “the attic”
The day could go one of two ways:
If room at the venue, we could set up the drums behind the stage and roll them out (and back)
Otherwise we’d have to build on stage
“We wanna help break down!”


00:27:50 “No matter what your gig is, every gig has bullshit.” — Syndee Winters 

A $300 gig has its level of BS
A $3000 gig has its level of BS
The multi-million-dollar production of Hamilton ALSO has it’s multi-million dollar production of Bullshit.
A new Gig Gab adage: When there’s rain…the water always hits the PA.
Beware water and power…they don’t mix!


00:33:52 No matter what the gig is, learn everything you can learn

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1 month ago
1 hour 15 minutes 36 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Indie Music Mastery: Marketing, Email, and AI with Jack McCarthy
Jack McCarthy joins you on Gig Gab to dig into the real business of music, how to grow attention, capture it, and convert it into lasting fan relationships. You’ll learn why the right material works, how to transform inspiration into your own content, and why audio quality matters less than energy when you’re trying to make fans say, “who is this band?” It’s about creating cultural moments, fueling FOMO, and turning one-time listeners into repeat buyers. This is where “Always Be Performing” extends beyond the stage into every piece of marketing you share.
From building email and SMS lists to flattening the revenue rollercoaster with calendars and consistent outreach, you’ll see how indie artists can move from surviving to thriving. Jack and Dave walk through practical strategies like dissecting viral hits, harnessing UGC, and even using AI to smash blank page syndrome. You’ll hear why you’re probably not being “salesy” enough, and how treating your marketing as another form of performance makes it feel authentic, not forced. If you’re ready to stand out in a noisy world, this episode shows you how.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 501 – Monday, September 29th, 2025

September 29th: National Silent Movie Day


Guest co-host: Jack McCarthy from Indepreneur & their Creative Juice Podcast
00:02:35 Let’s talk Business of music
00:03:04 Indepreneur – Music Marketing Education

Monetizing a fanbase
Coaching artists
IndieX – an agency working 1-on-1 with artists


00:04:42 Start gathering attention

You need to start growing a critical mass


00:05:51 Once you have attention you need to capture that in a number of different ways
00:06:40 Converting attention into a next step

Audience into an email or SMS list
Or getting someone to buy from you the first time (tickets, merch)
Buying from you again (Patreon)


00:08:09 To gain attention: pay attention to the types of videos that capture your attention

Clickbait is effective for a reason!
Apply the same ideas to the stuff that you make
Emulate and morph it into something


00:10:15 Learn other peoples stuff… then learn FROM other people’s stuff

Eventually you have something that is yours


00:12:25 Coaching people through creating their first posts

So much of it involves working to “get the suck out of it”
Learn what makes you… you!
“I would love to make a video like that”
Story of when Dave almost got crushed by a monitor tower


00:15:44 Should we always be filming?

Capture as much as you can while you’re working (performing, songwriting)


00:17:33 Audio quality is better than video quality

But there is the definition of “good enough”
Energy matters most. Make people ask, “who is this band?”
Create FOMO for people to come to your SHOW


00:20:06 Creating cultural moments

Make people ask, “what is that?” “who is that?” “how can I be there next time?”


00:22:52 Creating User Generated Content-style channels for your own band
00:25:29 Dissecting Oasis’s creation of cultural moments
00:27:33 SPONSOR: Square – See what Square has been up to in your neck of the woods, and then visit square.com/go/giggab
00:28:51 SPONSOR: Claude.ai – Ready to tackle bigger problems?
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1 month ago
1 hour 4 minutes 10 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Calories, Controversies, and Connections — 500 Episodes Later
Celebrating 500 episodes, you’re right in the middle of a musician’s playground with Dave, Mike Schulte, and Skylar Hamilton. You’ll hear how Skylar picked up the sticks to ace a school audition, why guitar lessons with Dad flopped, and what it takes to manage intensity behind the kit, especially as the decades wear on. From Clem Burke’s calorie-burning groove to the strange question of why drums wear covers, you’re reminded that rhythm is equal parts sweat, curiosity, and craft. Always Be Performing, whether it’s a practice room breakthrough or chasing the perfect sound on stage.
The crew also dives into their favorite past episodes—Jan Hammer, Kenny Aronoff, and the time Dave encountered the perfect microphone in the middle of the woods. They break down the stats of 500 shows, debate cable-wrapping controversies, and swap dream guest lists ranging from Geddy Lee to Joe Jonas. It’s a candid look at what keeps Gig Gab thriving: learning from everyone, laughing at quirks, and spotlighting the passion that fuels musicians (and drummers!) alike.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 500 – Monday, September 22nd, 2025

September 22nd: National Family Day
Guest co-hosts: Mike Schulte, and Skylar Hamilton


00:05:00 How did Skylar come to play drums?

Dad, I need you to teach me how to play the drums so I can pass an audition for the school band
“I knew my dad was cool.”
Daddy/daughter guitar lessons were a spectacular failure, but we approached drums differently…and succeeded!


00:14:30 Daddy, why is there a cover on your drums?
00:15:41 Re-learning our intensity levels as drummers

Keeping
Clem Burke burned 800 calories per hour drumming


00:19:02 What are your favorite episodes?

Jan Hammer on Gig Gab
Kenny Aronoff on Gig Gab
Propofol Airlines on Gig Gab


25:00 Four Chords and The Truth Tom Petty Tribute on Gig Gab

Pork Tornadoes Viral Video with Tennesee Whiskey


00:31:55 SPONSOR: Square – See what Square has been up to in your neck of the woods, and then visit square.com/go/giggab
00:33:24 PODCAST: Takin’ a Walk with Buzz Knight explores the insights from guests about musicians, bands, and the music they create.
00:34:47 500 Episodes…The STATS!

420 hours, 2 minutes, 27 seconds (through ep499)

Longest confirmed: Gig Gab 498 from September 8, 2025– “Always Be Recording…with Brad Madix” at 1:33:05
Shortest confirmed: Gig Gab 312 from July 12, 2021 – “The Ever Elusive “Great Sound”” at 24:42




00:36:37 …and Dave Friesema listened to all of it!

Earthworks SV33…and then the Earthworks ETHOS


00:42:36 Gig Gab Controversy: WRAP YOUR CABLES LIKE FOLDING SHEETS

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1 month ago
1 hour 13 minutes 3 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Stu Dias and The Ephemeral Sea Turtles
This week on Gig Gab, you’ll dive into the wild, creative energy of Stu Dias, creator of Diaspora Radio, co-founder of Soggy Po Boys, and more, sitting in with Dave Hamilton. You’ll hear how albums, once carefully crafted statements, inspired Stu’s pandemic-born project to breathe new life into full-length records on stage. From Taylor Swift’s track order to Pink Floyd’s legendary flow, the talk turns to interpretation: should songs always evolve, or do they need their “rockin’ version” first, like Layla? Add in some debate over encores, the Sea Turtle attitude toward music scenes, and whether musicians actually want to see more bands on their night off, and you’ve got a ride that feels as lively as a late-night set.
The conversation moves into the grit of band dynamics…knowing when you’re the engine and when you’re the fuel, handling GB gigs without losing your soul, and making sure new people feel welcome in the scene. Stu and Dave dig into rhythm, habit, and the beauty of live art that’s gone the second it happens; ephemeral, like sea turtles drifting by. You’ll explore the 80% Rule, the risks of saying no too often, and what it really means to keep people calling. Along the way: George Clinton, Funkadelic, and the reminder that what you play matters far less than how you make people feel. Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 499 – Monday, September 15th, 2025

September 8th: National Linguine Day
Guest co-host: Stu Dias from Diaspora Radio, Soggy Po Boys, and More


00:03:35 Diaspora Radio came from Pandemic Thoughts

Sitting in the car with a buddy listening to albums… why not play them live?
People used to put a lot of time and care and passion into construction an album
Does that still happen? Does Taylor Swift care about running order?
Pink Floyd did. And so did other artists. And such… Diaspora Radio was born


00:09:19 No encores…

Except Lovelight with American Beauty


00:10:54 Band negotiations over songs

Should you do a different interpretation?
Layla’s second life as an acoustic version…but would it have happened without the original, rockin’ version first?


00:15:36 When you gig and have a night off… do you want to go see another band in another club?
00:16:08 Having a Sea Turtle attitude to approaching music

Every scene is different


00:21:45 Forming different bands for different projects

Each group of people have different strengths


00:23:54 Comparing New Hampshire seacoast to the New Orleans traditional jazz scene

The word “band” means a different thing


Sponsors

00:25:40 SPONSOR: Gig Performer is a plugin host, an audio mixer, a backing tracks player, and more that gives you real-time control…live. Visit GigPerformer.com/GigGab for 10% off.
00:27:40 SPONSOR: GigSalad. Always Be Performing means “Always Be Booking”, too. Head to GigSalad.com to create your free profile today!


00:29:02 The shame of playing cover music in the wrong scene

Playing GB (aka General Business) gigs
Don’t break up the band!


00:41:48 Taking a good scenario for granted
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1 month ago
1 hour 27 minutes 36 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Always Be Recording...with Brad Madix
You’re revolutionizing live audio in ways that seemed impossible just a few years ago. Brad Madix joins Dave Hamilton to break down how you can now mix a 186-channel concert in ATMOS from thousands of miles away with only 125ms latency, using nothing more than the public internet and cloud services. Whether you’re handling a seven-minute festival changeover with 256 live channels or capturing audience ambiance with DPA 5100 surround mics, the technology exists to stream professional-quality audio anywhere. The game-changer? REMI (Remote Integration Model) eliminates the need for massive OB trucks by letting you send a simple box that plugs into the internet and streams everything to your remote mixing suite.
Your mixing philosophy matters as much as your technical setup, thought, so remember to Always Be Performing by keeping your eyes up and watching the actual show instead of staying glued to your console. When someone complains “it’s too loud,” they usually mean the vocals aren’t cutting through the mix—a psychoacoustic principle that separates amateur from professional engineers. Document everything your band does, mix the first song in your mind before showtime, and understand that live music’s ephemeral nature means some magical moments will never be captured again. As AI tools like Suno emerge for songwriting, they’ll likely serve as assistants rather than replacements, but the human touch remains essential for reading the room and adapting to those unexpected MIDI malfunctions that can threaten to derail even legendary acts like Rush.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 498 – Monday, September 8th, 2025

September 8th: National Ampersand Day
Guest co-host: Brad Madix


00:02:10 Mixing FOH this for Florence and The Machine

Festival NAPA Valley


00:03:18 Recorded the Ozzy / Sabbath concert in Birmingham

First, rehearsals in Redditch – Fly By Nite
MADI from Bands
Elgato Stream Deck


00:07:23 Doing a Seven Minute Changeover

Total of 256 live channels of inputs
3 sets of 64 channels of analog inputs
32 audience mics, plus presenters mics, plus a DJ, etc
And then the band on stage


00:10:44 What is MADI?

Most live consoles allow a MADI output (some via add-on connector)
The Rival Suns at Ozzy / Sabbath in Birmingham sent pre-mixed drums, etc
Using DPA 5100 Mobile Surround 5.1 microphones for audience capture
Brad and team were submixing the live audience mics


00:22:29 Live Music is Ephemeral

Some things don’t get recorded
Robert Scovill’s Back Lounge


00:26:38 Document everything your band does
00:28:44 Rush felt like it was important to have something “in the can”
00:30:56 SPONSOR: Claude.ai – Ready to tackle bigger problems? Sign up for Claude today and get 50% off Claude Pro, which includes access to Claude Code, when you visit Claude.ai/GIGGAB
00:32:53 SPONSOR: Mechanical Licensing Collective – Are you a songwriter, music publisher, or administrator?
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1 month ago
1 hour 33 minutes 5 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Keith Murray on The Chaos, Comedy, and Heart Behind We Are Scientists
Keith Murray from We Are Scientists joins you this week for a sharp, hilarious, and revealing ride. From joking about being background extras in cult films to the story of meeting Chris Cain at a Dawson’s Creek viewing party, you’re reminded that sometimes saying yes to everything really can lead to magic. Keith reflects on 20 years of With Love and Squalor, the way nostalgia feels different than expected, and how the band has thrived through bullheaded persistence and genuine friendship. Along the way, you’ll hear about balancing rock with comedy, learning when to bail, and embracing the butterfly-of-chaos moments that turn near-disaster into beauty.
You’ll also get insights into the We Are Scientists ethos and how building fan connection went far beyond music, from early multimedia websites to zines and weird videos that built a “true fans” culture before it was cool. Touring is still about competing with people’s couches, but the band’s vibe keeps fans engaged like they’re part of the hang. The big takeaway? Whether you’re on stage, creating content, or just navigating the chaos, the key is to Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 497 – Monday, September 1st, 2025

Guest co-host: Keith Murray from We Are Scientists


00:01:18 It’s It’s Qualifying Miles…not Qualifying Minds
00:02:20 September 1st: National No Rhyme Nor Reason Day
00:03:36 Wanting to be a background player in a Final Destination film, or the Anaconda series

Butterfly of Chaos


00:06:51 Seeing Oasis in Toronto…Separately!

Deciding Not To Find Things Objectionable


00:13:18 We Are Scientists at Emo’s with Bill Murray in 2010
00:20:18 Qualifying Miles, the new album

It’s more about wondering why I’m not more nostalgic?
It’s been 20 years since With Love and Squalor came out
Revisiting those moments from the past…but noticing that they matter less than we anticipated


00:25:00 Chris Cain and Keith met at a 1997 Dawson’s Creek viewing party

Pomona College in California
Say yes to everything


00:29:14 On being part rock band, part comedy act
00:35:56 Is the crowd rooting for you, or scrutinizing you?
00:39:46 At the Precipice of Disaster but Delivering Beauty like a Butterfly of Chaos
00:42:45 Knowing when to bail
00:44:04 Why is We Are Scientists successful after 20 years (and counting)?

One reason…Bullheaded persistence: we still want to be doing this!
We are still best friends. We still would be hanging out regardless of the band.
Another… the vibe of WAS is pretty good. Our fans feel like they’re doing things with friends.


00:48:05 How do you engage with your fans between shows?

Even in 2002, the website was not all about music. It had fiction writing, weird videos
The website was a media concern built to be serving their “true fans”


00:52:34 The Twin Town Gazette: Chris and Keith

Dave Eggers – MacSweeney’s
We Are Scientists have always been a multimedia concern…even before the band was formed


00:57:52 Getting meta: discussing interview styles
01:02:12 We Are Scientists on Tour in US, Canada, and UK this fall

Competing with the couch!


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2 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 19 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
When Your Band Replaces You… and How to Replace Them Back
This week, you’ll hear how Paul Kent is clocking an impressive 160 gigs this year while navigating the realities of new bands, new towns, and the politics of live music scenes. From the sting of finding out your band might replace you, to turning that around with a “sub for a sub” mindset, Paul shares what it’s like to balance loyalty, opportunity, and staying sharp on stage. You’ll get a peek into the 27-year run of The Houserockers, tackling shows without a co-lead singer, and the ever-present “it’s my calendar” problem every working musician knows too well.
Dave and Paul dig into why a full band creates better music, the importance of subs in keeping the show alive, and even prepping for difficult productions. This sparks a deep dive into the question every musician should answer: what is your brand? Whether you’re juggling hundreds of gigs or building your scene from scratch, the takeaway is clear: Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 496 – Monday, August 25th, 2025

August 25th: International Banana Split Day (also Gene Simmons and Billy Ray Cyrus’s Birthdays!)
Guest co-host: Paul Kent


00:02:40 160 Gigs this year for Paul!
00:05:06 Wait…who is Paul Kent?
00:09:00 Starting anew with a new band in a new place is… tough!

Scenes are a thing…and there’s regionality to it!
What happens when your band wants to replace you…some of the time?
It’s never fun to find out that your band is plotting without you.
Effectively: “If you’re going to sub me out, I have to sub you out, too.”


00:19:32 Paul’s band, The Houserockers, are in their 27th year!
00:20:19 Doing gigs without your co-leadsinger

Stinkfoot Orchestra, Nick’s Zappa tribute


00:25:55 The “it’s my calendar” problem
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00:32:16 A Band Makes For Better Music

Adam Moskowitz on Gig Gab


00:43:53 Prepping for Taylor Swift
00:46:15 Subs are important to making the show happen
00:47:14 Dave Friesema listened to … every episode of Gig Gab ever… and had some thoughts!
00:49:06 What is your brand?
00:50:40 Gig Gab 494 Outtro

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2 months ago
51 minutes 12 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Band Chemistry and Collaboration: Lessons with The Coffis Brothers
You’re in the room with The Coffis Brothers this week as Jamie and Kellen sit down with Dave to unpack the art of keeping a band tight—musically, emotionally, and logistically. From maintaining long-term chemistry with the same players to writing songs that leave space for bandmates to shape the vibe, you’ll hear how collaboration fuels creativity. Drummers, take note: the groove is the feel, and every quirky idea deserves a spin. The secret? Try everything, trust each other, and Always Be Performing.
Whether you’re wrangling song credits or managing egos, this episode dives into what makes a band work. You’ll get insights on touring tech tips (hello, splitter snake), surviving soundchecks with new FOH engineers, and the power of being kind to everyone—from the club staff to the crowd. The three guys share thoughts on navigating click tracks, choosing covers as an originals band, and how AI might fit into it all (or…not?). It’s a masterclass in band dynamics—fun, honest, and full of stories that’ll stick with you, just like those hooks The Coffis Brothers write!


00:00:00 Gig Gab 495 – Monday, August 18th, 2025

August 18th: National Ice Cream Pie Day
Guest co-hosts: Jamie & Kellen Coffis, The Coffis Brothers!

Originally on Gig Gab 46!




00:03:23 Maintaining the same band for as long as you can

The comfort level of having the same people in the band


00:05:52 Writing songs and bringing them into the band

You write a song and bring the skeleton to the band
You’re writing for a band
The band very much informs my sensibilities in how I write, even when they’re not in the room


00:10:14 Navigating the drum parts as a songwriter

The drums are the thing that can define the feel of the song


00:13:08 As a drummer, do you experiment with simplicity … or complexity?

The drummer winds up trying everyone else’s crazy ideas…and sometimes they work


00:18:40 In the songwriting process, you’ve gotta try every idea and do it with conviction!

Getting confirmation bias out of it
“Everyone needs to be empowered to get to the place where they’re playing with that shared joy”


00:21:12 A band is a team

You gotta make a few passes before you take that big shot
Wait for the opportunity, don’t force it


00:23:47 Balancing credit so the public doesn’t pull you apart

Bands who famously publicly-shared credit to avoid battles: Beatles, REM, Rush, more?
It needs to be fun for everyone!
Let everyone have their voice.


00:25:48 Someone needs to be in charge, but… a benevolent dictator is best.

But you want your record to sound like five guys in a room having fun


00:27:24 When it’s fun… vs. when it’s not fun

If you’re not having fun, ask yourself what you can change (hint: you can always change yourself)


00:31:56 Sometimes letting go is best
00:33:16 Managing your expectations

When it comes to sound, travel with a splitter snake


00:40:00 Considering the move to In Ear Monitors
00:42:11 Traveling with the same FOH engineer for every gig

Playing with John Craigie (and his FOH engineer)
Negotiating a new relationship with Every. Single. Engineer.


00:47:28 Even if just for a few hours,
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2 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes 2 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Backstreet Boys and Black Eyed Peas: How Keith Harris Balances Drumming, Directing, and Performing
On this week’s Gig Gab, you’re getting a masterclass in modern musicianship with Keith Harris, the drummer, producer, and musical director for the Black Eyed Peas. From behind the kit to behind the console, Keith walks you through the art of turning groove into leadership, showing how drummers often evolve into musical directors. He shares the hard-earned truth that your reputation is your currency, and sometimes, being a pro means not re-hiring someone—cordially. Keith reveals how he blends acoustic drums with pristine samples using tools like Splice and the Roland SPD-SX, and how Izotope Nectar helped shape Estelle’s vocals on “Stay Alta.” Always Be Performing, even in the studio.
But the performance doesn’t stop when the tracking ends. Keith pulls back the curtain on directing the Backstreet Boys’ residency at Sphere, where every note is locked in ahead of time, tracked by a killer band featuring André Bowman, Lance Tolbert, and Curt Chambers, all engineered by John D. Norten. There are no live musicians on stage, but that doesn’t mean it’s not live, because the show lives in the details. Keith emphasizes that your FOH and playback engineers aren’t just techs; they’re part of the band. Teaching them your show is just as critical as rehearsing the music. From ADAT to AI, the tools may change, but the hustle stays the same.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 494 – Monday, August 11th, 2025

August 11th: International Hip Hop Celebration Day
Guest co-host: Keith Harris


00:01:50 Drummers become producers
00:04:42 Transitioning from drummer to musical director
00:08:12 There’s no I in Team!

Keep it cordial, but you don’t have to re-hire them.


00:10:17 Managing your reputation
00:12:37 The human feel of blending acoustic drums and high quality samples

Using Splice all the time
Roland SPD-SX
Using Izotope Nectar on vocals with Estelle’s “Stay Alta”


00:16:25 The evolution of recording and the yin and yang of music and technology
00:20:00 The growing pains of the industry are always there, they just have different names:

ADAT
ProTools
AI


00:21:23 Choosing the right sounds for the gig
00:24:01 SPONSOR: Mechanical Licensing Collective – Are you a songwriter, music publisher, or administrator? Every month, The MLC collects the streaming data and royalties from Spotify and Apple Music, matches the money to the creator who has earned it, and then pays out the royalties due. Visit TheMLC.com today to sign up!
00:25:30 Music Directing Backstreet Boys at Sphere

Everything’s Tracked, and there are no live musicians on stage except the singers.
Ahead of time, Keith and the band worked out the setlist, then arrangements, then went into the studio and tracked the whole band.

André Bowman on Bass
Lance Tolbert Keys
Curt Chambers on guitar
John D. Norten Engineer




00:38:46 Teaching your FOH engineer your show

FOH and Playback engineers are also band members
James McCullagh, FOH for Backstreet Boys


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2 months ago
45 minutes 33 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Live Show Mastery: IEMs, Gig Survival, and SuperFan Power
This week you’ll hear how making the leap to in-ear monitors isn’t just swapping gear—it’s like learning a whole new instrument. You’ll pick up real-world tactics for keeping the band rolling when a member’s sick or injured, including the art of pulling in a last-minute sub. You’ll face the hard truth about whether the show really must go on and learn what to do when the FOH vanishes mid-gig. From hiring (and managing) your own sound engineer to turning your SuperFans into your band’s secret weapon, you’ll see how those relationships can shape your entire live experience. Always Be Performing means every choice you make—gear, people, or setlist—affects the show you deliver.
You’ll also dive into transforming every gig into a true show, thinking beyond the notes to the pacing, energy, and flow of the night. You’ll hear strategies for avoiding audience burnout, why proximity clauses matter, and how to survive the madness of back-to-back gigs with no breather in between. Plus, the essentials of dealing with unpredictable backlines, smart gear tips (like why a humble Lasko fan might be your MVP), and avoiding stereo/TRS mix-ups. It’s all about showing up prepared, performing with intention, and making sure every gig leaves its mark.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 493 – Monday, August 4th, 2025

August 4th: National Chocolate Chip Cookie Day
Guest co-host: Scott Smith


00:01:41 Using Alclair IEMs
00:04:27 Transitioning to IEMs is like learning an instrument
00:08:10 Adapting as a band with an injured/sick bandmate
00:11:29 The Show Must Go On…Must it?
00:12:44 Calling in a last-minute sub when in a pinch
00:15:13 When the FOH disappears
00:18:45 Adding a sound engineer to your band’s staff…the blessing and the curse
00:22:59 Recognizing, Thanking, AND Leveraging your SuperFans

Hiring a social media intern for your band
Having a SuperFan manage the entire VIP experience for paying fans
SuperFans are a huge asset for your band, nurture those relationships before you lose them


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00:35:07 Making each gig a “show”

Don’t just play the gig, think about the setlist, think about the flow of the evening
“If you want attention in this band, you have to take it!”


00:42:02 Managing oversaturation

Proximity clauses


00:47:46 Playing two gigs in one day where the second one starts at the time the first one ends
00:54:47 Backlines for gigs
00:56:28 North County Band @ Press Room on August 15th
00:58:55 Gear Gab

Lasko 12” utility fan with outlets


01:01:34 Confusing stereo 1/4″ with TRS

Headphone jack to 1/4″ mono inputs


01:06:05 Gig Gab 493 Outtro

Follow Scott Smith

North County Band


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3 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 47 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
That’s Not Gain, It’s Just a Hot Mic
Want to trigger backing tracks live from your iPad or iPhone? This episode of Gig Gab is your playbook. Dave walks you through listener-recommended apps like Stage Traxx 3, Go Button, and forScore for managing clicks and cues with precision. Whether you’re solo or in a band, these tools can keep your show tight. Plus, Gear Gab digs into smart stage solutions—from Polsen mics that punch above their price, to the Behringer BA 19A (internally mounted, no less!) and the low-profile magic of Kelly SHU and KickPort.
In Gear Gab and the Mailbag, you’ll learn why some mics sound hotter out of the gate, how to record and stream with the Zoom AMS 44, and why starting on the wrong beat could cost you a fan (or two!). You’ll also get the real-world workflow for legally releasing a cover and navigating YouTube’s copyright traps. It’s all part of the gig—so dial it in, take care with your craft, and as is customary: Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 492 – Monday, July 28th, 2025

July 28th: National Waterpark Day


Triggering Tracks from Your iPad (ref. GG 487 with Corey Manske)

00:02:07 Alan-Stage Traxx 3
00:05:13 Andy-Use Go Button for Playing Tracks from an iPhone or iPad
00:07:35 forScore click


Gear Gab

00:09:43 Andy-Polsen Mics are also great for the money
00:12:08 More praise for the internally-mounted Behringer BA 19A mic (and Kelly SHU PLUGZ)

KickPort


00:17:14 Drew-Check Reverb for CBT Splitter Snakes
00:19:51 Proreck Club 6000


Sponsors

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00:27:53 SPONSOR: Mechanical Licensing Collective – Are you a songwriter, music publisher, or administrator? Every month, The MLC collects the streaming data and royalties from Spotify and Apple Music, matches the money to the creator who has earned it, and then pays out the royalties due. Visit TheMLC.com today to sign up!


Mailbag

00:29:19 Brian-Do some microphones have more internal gain?

Heil PR-37
Earthworks SR117


00:38:02 Christine-Recording and live streaming with the Zoom AMS 44
00:39:55 Listener X-I left when the band started the show on the wrong beat

“I want people to know that care has been taken.”


00:44:17 Gregory-What’s the process for releasing a recorded cover song?

Harry Fox Agency


00:46:50 Thomas-What do I do about YouTube blocking my videos of songs I cover?
00:50:11 Using AirPods Pro gen 2 as active earplugs

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3 months ago
55 minutes 15 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Aggressive Ambition: Dae Bogan’s Journey to The MLC
You think you understand music royalties? Think again. Dae Bogan from The MLC breaks it all down with Dave Hamilton on this week’s Gig Gab. From the ancient days of piano rolls to the tangled web of modern streaming, you’ll learn how mechanical royalties differ from performance rights and why most artists are leaving money on the table. The MLC—born from the Music Modernization Act of 2018—isn’t just another acronym; it’s the missing piece of the puzzle, and Dae’s been there since before the beginning, shaping the system from the inside out.
But this episode goes beyond the mechanics. Dae shares his raw, unfiltered story, from homelessness at 18 to building multiple startups and becoming a sought-after voice in music licensing. He didn’t just climb the ladder: he built it, all while staying true to his mission. You’ll hear how empathy, grit, and yes, aggressive ambition became his tools for success. Tune in, learn how not to make the mistake nearly every artist makes, and remember: Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 491 – Monday, July 21st, 2025

July 21st: National Junk Food Day
Guest co-host: Dae Bogan from The MLC


00:02:13 What are mechanical royalties, and why do they matter?

ASCAP, BMI, SESAC are Performing Rights Organizations
“Mechanical” comes from the days of piano rolls
Mechanical royalties are for the music, the melody, the lyrics.
Copyright law for mechanical royalties began in 1906
This was fine in the non-digital age, because everything was controlled


00:10:24 Enter the digital era… where gaps widened because there was no mechanical licensing organization looking at everything wholistically

The MLC fills that gap, born out of the passing of the Music Modernization Act in 2018


00:14:23 Building the infrastructure, to launch in 2021

The MLC was named in the MMA (in lowercase!), but it did not define WHO would be this organization
In 2019 (about a year after the MMA was passed) The MLC was designated/chosen as the organization that would be the mechanical licensing collective
00:22:16 Dae’s multiple hats (including being a singer) led him to The MLC
In his 20s, Dae pivoted to representing artists
Side Hustle in college as Renaissance Artist Management (RAM)
Moonlit as manager of Loft 24 Records (and Loft 24 Publishing).


00:27:35 December 4, 2003. Dae was 18, Broke, Homeless, a duffel bag full of clothes, and a mission.

“Aggressively ambitious” leaves no opportunity to give up.
Perseverance and aggressive ambition allowed Dae to build the ladder AND climb


00:30:44 Another startup: Maven Promo, cloud-based, in store music network that played music videos in retail stores, targeted at teenagers

The combination of Maven & Loft 24 allowed Dae to see the gap in mechanical licensing


00:34:06 Where is the gap? Time to research by getting a third degree: MBA

Music Initiative Administration MBA degree at CSUN
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3 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 51 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
He's The Rhombus King!
When the skies open and the gig’s a wash, how do you keep the energy alive? Mike Schulte joins Dave Hamilton to break down how The Pork Tornadoes handled a rainout, what happens when the audience doesn’t get the memo, and why your contract better say who’s in charge. From chaotic “throw and go” setups to must-do line checks, this episode reminds you that you’re not just playing music—you’re leading a production. Always Be Performing means preparing like a pro, even when the show gets messy.
You’ll dive deep into the power of in-ears (spoiler: “best decision we ever made”), the delicate art of song arrangements, and why understanding the assignment matters more than raw talent. Plus, practical tips for turning fans into superfans—one drumstick, comment reply, and authentic connection at a time. If you want your audience to show up for you, you’ve got to show up for them first.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 490 – Monday, July 14th, 2025

July 14th: Bastille Day


00:01:32 Guest co-host: Mike Schulte from Pork Tornadoes
00:05:28 Mike and The Pork Tornadoes had to deal with a rainout!

This is a team effort…but someone needs to tell that to the crowd (and the organizers).
You can’t negotiate with alcohol


00:16:06 When you know better, exercise the authority in your contract (and make sure you put that authority in your contract!)
00:18:06 Sometimes that means you do a non-soundchecked “throw and go” gig

But…NEVER skip line checks!


00:23:22 It’s time to sing the benefits of in-ears vs. monitor wedges

“It was the best decision we ever made”


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00:32:11 Navigating song choices and arrangements in your band

Being in a band is an intricate relationship
“I need you to understand the assignment more than I need you to be really good at your instrument.”


00:51:30 Review: Soundbrenner Wave – $99 universal fit IEMs
00:58:02 Tips/systems for engaging with EVERY fan (and building your base of superfans)

First, once you get a superfan, ALWAYS acknowledge them at every gig
At the end of every gig, find someone who was engaged all night, and give them a guitar pick or a drumstick
Respond to every Facebook comment
Reverse the situation: Put yourself in the mindset of being a superfan (of another group)
Create the ability for those superfans to feel more special than everyone else
He’s the Rhombus King!


01:11:45 Gig Gab 490 Outtro

Follow Mike Schulte

Confused Breakfast
The Pork Tornadoes


Contact Gig Gab!

@GigGabPodcast on Instagram
feedback@giggabpodcast.com
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3 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes 25 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Tuning Up the Rockstars: Chinner's Roadie Chronicles (Vol. 1)
Ever wonder what it’s like to roll through the golden age of rock with the crew behind the legends? On this week’s Gig Gab, Chinner Winstead takes you backstage—from autograph sessions with Tom Petty to chaos-control on tour with Nantucket. You’ll trace the path from bar band to global tours with Lenny Kravitz, Phil Collins, Georgia Satellites, and Tracy Chapman. Spoiler: it all starts with showing up, doing the work, and connecting with the right people at the right time.
But it’s not just rockstar name-drops—this episode’s packed with hard-earned wisdom. Chinner and Dave talk gear (like wireless systems that actually sound right), cable tricks, and why genetics might be stacked for (or against) your hearing. The big takeaway? Your skills matter, but your vibe matters more. In this business, the best gig often goes to the one who’s ready to laugh, work hard, and Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 489 – Monday, July 7th, 2025

July th: National Day of Rock and Roll
Guest co-host: Steve “Chinner” Winstead


00:04:55 Chinner’s having eye problems

Dave’s having fever and headache problems


00:06:03 The Show Must Go On

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers playing in St. Louis. Mike Campbell fell on the drum riser mid-show.


00:08:07 Tom Petty Never Said No To An Autograph
00:09:53 But first…Nantucket (the band)

Opening for AC/DC on the Back In Black Tour (because AC/DC heard their cover of “Long Way To the Top” and liked it)
Kevin Jennings


00:12:59 Then…Kevin Jennings introduced him to the Georgia Satellites!

Rick Richards (guitarist)
Alan “Bugs” Weidel (Tom Petty’s guitar tech)
“How are you with Rickenbacker 12 Strings?”


00:15:10 The Heartbreakers crew was the best of the best
00:16:05 Some love for Rush
00:17:03 Craig Ross got Chinner in with Lenny Kravitz
00:18:01 And then Phil Collins…and then Tracy Chapman
00:19:00 In the end it comes down to the hang

Pick the guy you’d wanna be in a foxhole with!


00:21:33 Ron Blair said, of Chinner, “Chinner says what most people just think.”
00:22:23 Circling Back… The actual start with Nantucket

“You wanna go with us to Virginia Beach?”
Quaaludes and Disco


00:25:47 Everything Happens for a Reason
00:28:12 How to keep guitar cables from getting caught under monitors

Gaffer Tape
Fishing Line


00:30:52 Picking the right wireless unit

Line-6 created a wireless that mimicked a 50-foot cable (The G10 is the evolution of what Chinner mentioned)
Beyer-Dynamic wireless that also mimics a 50-foot cable
Alex Alvarez is Lenny Kravitz’s guitar tech


00:37:11 Hearing loss might be genetically predisposed
00:38:06 Hot Sauce…on Chinner’s next visit to Gig Gab!
00:39:39 In Tokyo with Lenny Kravitz…and Diana Ross
00:43:19 On the subject of Nicknames…Chinner?

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4 months ago
49 minutes 57 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Crash Cymbals and Contracts: Billy Cuthrell’s Lesson in Music Business Success
Ever wonder how a skater punk becomes a music industry powerhouse? This week, Billy Cuthrell joins Dave Hamilton to share how his drumming journey kicked off with a Ludwig kit and a dose of Zeppelin, then scaled into creating a chain of four music schools and a million lessons taught annually. From being Music Inc. Magazine’s “Retail Doctor” to pioneering a subscription-style lessons model that gives away instruments with lesson contracts, Billy proves that the business of music can be just as creative as the craft itself. It’s all about knowing when to grind and when to zoom out.
But Billy doesn’t stop at teaching—he’s still gigging regularly, including a recent gig with Cosmic Superheroes in front of thousands of fans, buying DrumSellers.com, and dropping wisdom learned from legends like Jim Chapin and Freddie Gruber. If you’ve ever asked what it takes to turn passion into impact, this episode lays it out: persistence, play, and paying your dues. Remember, whether you’re behind the kit or building a business, you’ve got one job: Always Be Performing.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 488 – Monday, June 30th, 2025

June 30th: International Asteroid Day
Guest co-host: Billy Cuthrell


00:02:06 How did you become Music Inc. Magazine’s “Retail Doctor”?

College Radio Hit machine!
Go Figure (Dave’s college band)
Fountain of Youth (Billy’s college band)


00:05:58 Starting at 19 ran music lessons

Like the musical ice cream man at first, then 4 locations
Then added sales on because students need instruments!


00:07:41 School of Rock…in 1996!

Same time Skip’s Stairway to Stardom started up
Lawyers, yadda yadda, changed the name to “Rock Academy”
Early Drumkits

Ludwig 1960’s Blue Sparkle (for Billy)
Ludwig Rocker II (for Dave)




00:12:41 Introduced to Zeppelin’s “The Song Remains The Same”

Converted Billy from Skater Punk to Drummer
“I know I can play.”
As soon as Billy got a drumset, he would race home from school and play until his parents got home.
Now it’s Noble & Cooley CD Maple drums
“The Only thing I love more than playing music is talking about music.” – Paraphrasing Mike Campbell
Instruments are meant to be used!
Ludwig Supraphonic 40th Edition Snare
Kirk Hamilton from Strong Songs comparing Gibson SG vs. Japanese


00:26:27 Music Inc. Magazine Puts Billy on the cover!

And…a stolen idea from cell phone contracts
Lightbulb moment: Give away the instrument to sell a 2-year lesson contract!
Changed 4 stores, 120 employees, doing over a million music lessons each year.
Now three tiers: Learn, Play, Perform

The Perform tier is locked in for 12-to-24 months by contracting them with “free” instruments


Balancing your business: Execution vs. Perspective
And THAT is how Billy became “Retail Doctor”


00:36:32 SPONSOR: Mechanical Licensing Collective – Are you a songwriter, music publisher, or administrator? Every month,
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4 months ago
1 hour 20 minutes 53 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Click Tracks, Tribute Acts, and $20 Hacks: Gig Smarts with Corey Manske
You’re not alone if you’re running a click track on stage—more and more musicians are embracing it, and for good reason. This week on Gig Gab, Corey Manske joins Dave Hamilton to unpack how using a click can reduce stress, keep your band tight, and help you Always Be Performing. From essential stage gear like chapstick and a tape measure (you’ll get it), to the magic of “coopetition” among musicians, you’ll walk away with practical tools and mindset shifts. Corey shares how watching other players—and sometimes borrowing a rubber mallet—can lead to big breakthroughs.
But that’s just the beginning. You’ll hear how launching a Third Eye Blind tribute band taught Corey the power of planning, from finding the perfect frontman to handling contracts, stage plots, and backing tracks like a pro. Learn why tribute bands are dominating the venue scene and what it really means to “wear a disguise” on stage. You’ll also get into the nitty-gritty of tech setups—which apps might replace SoundCue, how to prep your tracks for any venue, and why slipping your sound engineer a $20 bill is a move worth making.


00:00:00 Gig Gab 487 – Monday, June 23rd, 2025

June 9th: National Detroit-Style Pizza Day
Guest co-host: Corey Manske


00:01:39 Everyone’s using a click (some of the time)
00:08:02 Taking the stress off by using a click live

Kill Switch


00:14:51 Always be performing means always putting on a show!
00:17:00 Important gear to have on stage

Tape measure (drummer thing)
Chapstick


00:19:53 The value of Coopetition
00:22:15 Learning parts from other people

Mike Cosgrove at a NAMM party
SS Recognize
Rubber Mallet


00:26:31 Playing the parts your way…and comfortably
00:29:32 “Just don’t confuse the strippers, man”

Music is a shared art form…band, performers, audience


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00:32:27 The experience of starting a Third Eye Blind Tribute Band

Started a year ago
The demographic is 50/50 M/F
Find the right singer, and the right band
Cover band is playing dress-up, being in a tribute band is wearing a disguise
Previously subbed in a Smashing Pumpkins tribute for 4.5 years, which gave some information and contacts
Venues figured out that Tribute bands are where the money is
Developing the backing tracks
Corey became the manager


00:38:02 Becoming comfortable with doing the paperwork

Contracts
Hospitality Riders
Stage Plots
Details matter!


00:40:16 Using an iPad to trigger tracks, clicks, and more

SoundCue for iPad (non-existent)
Replacement option: ShowOne for iPad
Other replacement options
We just need an audio player in a cart format!


00:52:09 The pre-production work so you can have the tracks live

Frst, decide what needs to be there
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4 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 48 seconds

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Wanna talk shop with your musical buddies? Look no further than Gig Gab, The Working Musician's Podcast! Each week Dave Hamilton and friends come to you sharing their gigging experiences, tips and tricks learned, and interviews with other weekend warriors and pros.