In this powerful and evocative episode, Karagan and Michael delve into an illuminating interview from The Magic in You, a YouTube series hosted by Frances Billinghurst. The focus is on the remarkable Galatea – a long-standing Alexandrian witch and priestess initiated in the original London coven during the foundational years of the tradition.
Karagan and Michael reflect on Galatea’s extraordinary insights, exploring her direct experiences with Alex Sanders, her role as a coven maiden, and her perspective on how Alexandrian Wicca has evolved – particularly in contrast between the UK and the US.
Themes explored include:
🔹 The emergence and significance of the "Alexandrian" label
🔹 Initiation as magical transformation, not mere symbolism
🔹 Differences between Alexandrian and Gardnerian practice
🔹 The vital importance of independence, solitary work, and personal devotion
🔹 The role of simplicity and intention in ritual
🔹 The dangers of materialism and ego in modern craft
🔹 The sacred interplay between witch, deity, and daily life
With warmth and reverence, the hosts share memories of time spent with Galatea, including a touching moment at Buckingham Palace and her profound connection to the Goddess Diana.
Whether you're an initiate, a seeker, or a curious listener, this episode offers timeless wisdom, practical insight, and a rare glimpse into the living history of Alexandrian witchcraft.
🌒🔮 Listen now and journey into the heart of the Craft.
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In this thought-provoking episode of For Coven’s Sake, Karagan and Michael delve into one of the foundational principles of traditional Alexandrian witchcraft: that a practitioner may belong to only one coven—and have only one teacher—at a time.
With warmth, wit, and depth, they unpack the practical, philosophical, and magical reasoning behind this doctrine, discussing the role of discipline, devotion, and integrity in the Craft. The episode also addresses the controversies surrounding outer courts, paid trainings, and the confusion created when seekers hop between traditions without clear intent.
Karagan and Michael speak candidly about the very real differences between Alexandrian and Gardnerian witchcraft, the meaning behind lineages, and the importance of thoughtful seeking in a landscape where not all teachings are equal.
Whether you’re exploring the path or are well along your way, this episode offers essential insight into what it truly means to dedicate yourself to the Craft.
💬 In this thought-provoking episode, Karagan and Michael dive deep into the core of what truly sustains magical work—and what threatens to hollow it out. From the obsession with numbers in covens to the misuse of titles, they explore the qualities that matter most: dedication, sincerity, and vocation.
📌 In This Episode:
The trap of quantity over quality: why big covens aren’t always better
Strategies used by early Alexandrians to manage growing interest—and why they worked
The risk of proselytizing under the guise of public events
What ceremonial titles really mean—and why they shouldn't be used outside of ritual
Reflections on vocation: what it is, why it's rare, and how it shapes priesthood
Can someone only show up once a year and still have true vocation?
When initiates act more like guests than members—how much is too much?
What is a vouch, and why does it matter for initiatory integrity?
🔥 A must-watch for anyone navigating leadership, responsibility, and community in initiatory Craft traditions. Karagan and Michael bring their characteristic honesty, wit, and depth to a timely discussion.
💬 Tell us in the comments: How do you define vocation? And what does it mean to truly serve the circle?
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In this episode, Karagan and Michael dive deep into the importance of oral tradition, proper training, and humility within initiatory craft traditions.
🔮 Topics include:
The dangers of assuming knowledge from inherited texts without proper instruction.
The "Sending Forth by Day and Night": what it is—and what it isn’t.
Why certain rites are taught only when necessary, and the meaning of timing in magical work.
Altered states of consciousness: Are wine or substances necessary in the circle? Karagan and Michael weigh in on the misconceptions about drug use in Alexandrian Craft.
The "Witch Queen" concept: misunderstood, mocked, yet very real—when it arises naturally from long-standing, effective coven work.
The presence of children in the circle: why tradition holds strict boundaries around participation.
A heartfelt reflection on how and when the Craft may have "lost the plot", and what it means to return to the essentials of the work.
🔥 This is a candid, unapologetic conversation about standards, responsibility, and the sacred role of initiates. Not everything is meant for everyone—and that’s by design.
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In this thought-provoking episode, Michael and Karagan dive into the complex role of the coven, the sacred use of magical names, the murky waters of truth and delusion in channeling, and the personal nature of divination.
🌀 Key Topics Explored:
🧠 Coven vs. Therapy: Karagan shares strong views on why covens are not spaces for psychological support or emotional processing, emphasizing that the role of the Craft is spiritual evolution, not therapy.
🌒 Magical Names: A deep look into the sacred nature of magical names in the Alexandrian tradition — how they are received, why they matter, and why they are not pseudonyms or public personas.
🕯️ Lord and Lady Titles: A frank discussion about titles like “Lord” or “Lady,” their historical usage, and the problems of ego, embellishment, and cultural distortion—particularly in American Craft.
🌀 Truth & Experience: How do we know a ritual or invocation is real? What does a genuine divine experience feel like? Michael and Karagan explore the difference between delusion, performance, and actual transformation.
👁️ Channeling & Divine Communication: Where is the line between true divine communication and ego-driven expression? They discuss the rarity of authentic channeling and how to discern what’s real.
🔮 Divination & Doubt: Is divination truly divine? Or is it just pattern recognition? The episode closes with a fascinating take on tarot, intuitive reading, and how doubt can deepen — not weaken — magical insight.
📝 Also Mentioned:
The Medium blog now live with reflections and highlights from each podcast episode.
References to historical events like Fátima, the psychology of social contagion, and religious mysticism.
✨ “If it stays with you — if it transforms you — that’s how you know it was real.”
❄️ In this episode, Michael and Karagan Griffith dive into the spiritual and magical significance of snow and the power of directed will in weather magic. From tales of old witches who could summon snowfall, to the deeper metaphysical layers of ritual, this conversation is a rich exploration of seasonal energy, devotion, and manifestation.
🌑 The discussion flows into the contrast between solitary practice and coven work within the Alexandrian tradition. Michael and Karagan share insights from their own initiatory paths and how group experience shapes and enhances solitary work, especially when facing magical ordeals and transformations.
🔮 Topics include:
Magic in snow and water
Directed will and weather working
The richness of Alexandrian training
Solitary vs. coven-based ritual practice
The role of ordeal and opposition in initiation
The concept of oath-breaking and its consequences
The difference between belief and faith in Craft
Remembering (or forgetting) ritual experiences
The eternal nature of the Mysteries
📚 Referenced: Mystery Cults in the Ancient World by Hugh Bowden.
💭 Thought-provoking, intimate, and deeply rooted in experience, this episode is an invitation to reflect on the sacred in both everyday weather and timeless ritual.
✨ “You only grow through discomfort. Truly.”
Episode 3: For Coven’s Sake
In this thought-provoking episode, Karagan Griffith and Michael discuss the transformative experience of hosting the first-ever Virtual Alexandrian Soirée. Exploring the advantages and challenges of digital gatherings, they reflect on how technology can bridge geographical gaps yet never truly replace the power of in-person training and ritual.
They also dive deep into fascinating topics, including:
✨ The role of Black Covens in the magical landscape – are they real, and how do they emerge?
✨ The responsibility of coven leaders and how a misguided path can lead an entire group astray.
✨ The ethics of whistleblowing within the Craft – is exposing a corrupt coven an act of justice or oath-breaking?
✨ The importance of seeker discernment – how does one know if they’re stepping into a genuine or dysfunctional coven?
✨ The magic hidden in everyday moments – from the rhythmic breath of an accordion to the unexpected power found in thunderstorms, music, and even a simple office fan.
This episode reminds us that magic is everywhere, waiting to be recognised and harnessed. It is about learning to see the unseen, feeling the energy in the mundane, and seizing those opportunities to work magic in the moment.
🔮 Tune in now to explore these deep and mystical discussions!
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In this thought-provoking episode, Karagan and Michael delve deep into the mysteries and commitments of the craft, focusing on one of its most pivotal aspects: the oath. They discuss its historical significance, its connections to traditional witchcraft and Masonic rituals, and the profound responsibility it entails.
Highlights of this Episode:
With a blend of historical context, personal insight, and practical advice, this episode invites listeners to ponder the deeper meanings of their spiritual commitments. Whether you're an initiate, a seeker, or simply curious about the craft, this episode is sure to resonate.
🎧 Tune in to explore the essence of commitment, integrity, and the relentless search for truth in the craft.
Introduction to Season 2
Welcome back, dear listeners, to For Coven’s Sake! After a highly insightful and thought-provoking first season, we're thrilled to dive into a brand-new chapter. Season 2 promises even deeper discussions, exploring the intersections of modern life, magical practice, and the enduring mysteries of witchcraft. Join your hosts, Karagan and Michael, as they take you through conversations that balance ancient traditions with contemporary challenges.
Season 2 begins with a topic that resonates deeply with practitioners and seekers alike: "How does your mundane life influence your magical practice?" Karagan and Michael discuss the delicate balance of engaging with the mundane world while nurturing the sacred, reflecting on personal experiences and the broader context of mystery traditions.
Mundane vs. Magical:
Karagan and Michael explore the interplay between day-to-day responsibilities and spiritual work, emphasizing the challenges of maintaining sacredness in a world filled with distractions.
The Hidden Children of the Goddess:
The hosts delve into the concept of the hidden priesthood, discussing its historical roots and philosophical implications. Are we meant to stay hidden, or is there a place for public visibility within the craft?
The Role of Ethics in Practice:
A rich dialogue unfolds around the importance of moral alignment and how mundane actions can ripple into magical practice, emphasizing the responsibility of priesthood.
Challenges of Public Perception:
From delusions in the craft to the risks of public representation, the hosts tackle the complexities of balancing personal practice with public scrutiny.
Initiation and Vocation:
What does it mean to recognize true vocation? Karagan and Michael reflect on the responsibility of initiating others and the profound changes initiation brings, whether conscious or unconscious.
This season, For Coven’s Sake will continue to unravel the layers of modern magical practice, offering insights, historical context, and personal anecdotes. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or a curious seeker, there's something here for everyone.
We'd love to hear your thoughts! Share your experiences and questions with us on Youtube and Instagram, and let’s keep the dialogue alive.
In this thought-provoking episode, Karagan and Michael dive deep into the responsibilities and expectations of the third degree within Alexandrian witchcraft. Through their insightful discussion, they dispel common misconceptions and illuminate the true depth and purpose of third-degree initiates.
Key Discussion Points:
The Role of the Third Degree: Karagan and Michael discuss how third-degree initiates are often seen as teachers or coven leaders, but their responsibilities go much deeper. They explore how third degrees serve as guides, helping initiates develop their own spiritual tools and potential while embracing cosmic and universal responsibilities beyond the coven.
Training and the Path of the Third Degree: A recurring topic is the importance of continuous learning, even after reaching the third degree. Karagan emphasizes that reaching the third degree doesn’t mean knowing everything; there’s always more to learn, and seeking further training is not only acceptable but encouraged.
The Secret Name: The conversation takes a mystical turn as they delve into the significance of the secret name given to third-degree initiates. While some may be given the name without knowing its true purpose, Karagan stresses the importance of understanding how to integrate this powerful tool into one’s magical work.
Superficial Knowledge vs. True Learning: The hosts critique the superficial approaches some take in modern witchcraft, such as digital exchanges of sacred texts or rushing through degrees without truly absorbing the depth of the tradition. They call for a return to more immersive, respectful ways of passing knowledge, where rituals like copying the Book of Shadows by hand carry deep spiritual significance.
The Importance of Personal Experience: Karagan and Michael reflect on the importance of personal involvement and hands-on learning within the craft. A key red flag they highlight is when third-degree initiates dominate rituals, preventing first-degree members from learning and growing through experience.
Cosmic Work of the Third Degree: They also touch on the "cosmic" nature of third-degree work, which transcends ritual tools and invocations, focusing on the larger, universal impact of the craft. The third degree, they explain, is about more than just leadership—it’s about a higher level of service and responsibility to the craft and the universe.
The Danger of Elevations Without Depth: Karagan shares his concerns about the modern trend of "elevations" where initiates rush through degrees over a weekend. He contrasts this with the true path of spiritual evolution, which requires time, dedication, and profound understanding.
In this engaging episode, Karagan and Michael reconnect to share their experiences and thoughts on various aspects of Alexandrian witchcraft. Though physically separated by distance, their conversation feels as intimate as ever, demonstrating the power of technology to bridge even oceans.
Key Discussion Points:
Salem Soirée Reflections: Karagan and Michael reminisce about the recent Alexandrian soirée in Salem, Massachusetts, noting the vibrant energy of the event. A young couple from Denmark, curious about witchcraft, joined the gathering and asked insightful questions, emphasizing the global appeal and relevance of Alexandrian tradition.
The Alexandrian Soirée Tradition: They dive deep into the history of Alexandrian soirées, which began with Alex and Maxine Sanders in the 1970s. These soirées were intimate gatherings, often held in living rooms or pubs, where seekers and initiates alike could ask questions about the tradition in an open and non-lecturing format.
The Diversity of Participants: Karagan shares an interesting encounter with a Satanist who attended the soirée, highlighting the broad spectrum of beliefs and traditions that intersect at these events. The evening was filled with diverse perspectives, from seasoned practitioners to curious newcomers.
Witchcraft and Community Healing: One of the key questions raised at the soirée was about the role of witches in community healing and environmental impact. Karagan and Michael discuss how covens can raise the vibrational energy of their surroundings, positively influencing communities through their work, whether it’s reducing crime rates or uplifting local spirits.
The Wheel of the Year and Climate Change: The discussion also touches on how climate change is affecting the traditional timing and practices associated with the Wheel of the Year. With winters becoming milder and seasons shifting, both hosts reflect on the implications for rituals and seasonal observances.
Contrasts in Cultural Witchcraft Practices: Karagan draws comparisons between the soirées held in the United States, Portugal, and the UK, noting how different cultures engage with Alexandrian witchcraft. While the format remains consistent, the cultural nuances of each country bring unique challenges and opportunities for connection.
Cursing in the Craft: A thought-provoking conversation unfolds around the role of cursing in witchcraft. Karagan explains that while cursing is a part of traditional witchcraft, it is rarely practiced and comes with significant consequences, such as halting spiritual evolution. Michael shares his concerns about the growing obsession with dark magic on social media and the mental toll it can take on practitioners.
Priesthood and Public Conduct: The episode ends with a discussion on the comportment of the priesthood in public. They share an incident from the soirée where an Alexandrian high priestess made a disruptive entrance, leading to reflections on how witches and priesthood should carry themselves, especially in public or religious gatherings.
In this thought-provoking episode, Michael and Karagan discuss the complexities of serving as spiritual leaders in unique and challenging environments. The episode begins with Karagan recounting an unexpected invitation to provide guidance at a maximum-security prison, sparking a deep conversation about the responsibilities and ethical dilemmas faced by those in priesthood. They explore questions of redemption, the spiritual implications of past actions, and the nuances of priestly duties outside the traditional settings of their practice. This episode is a deep dive into the moral and spiritual challenges that arise when serving communities that exist on the fringes of society.
Join Michael and Karagan as they delve into the origins and implications of "out of court" practices in witchcraft. They discuss how these practices emerged in the post-1970s American context, deviating from traditional Gardnerian and Alexandrian methods. Through personal experiences and critical observations, they highlight the ethical concerns and potential laziness in modern assessments of initiates. The hosts emphasize the importance of returning to organic and direct initiation practices, focusing on magical suitability rather than mundane compatibility. They also reflect on how contemporary cultural norms have altered traditional craft practices. This episode calls for a reinvigoration of honest and clear communication with seekers and a return to the integrity of traditional methods.
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In this episode, our hosts delve into the profound impact of the Internet on witchcraft and the dissemination of occult knowledge. They explore how technology has transformed the way practitioners connect, share information, and practice their craft. The discussion covers the benefits and drawbacks of this digital revolution, reflecting on personal experiences and historical parallels.
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Connectivity and Community:
The Benefits of Technology:
Challenges and Pitfalls:
The Role of Technology in Modern Practice:
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In this enlightening episode, Karagan and Michael welcome esteemed guest Ruan Fourier, initiate of the Alexandrian Tradition of Witchcraft and High Priest of the Derby Coven in Johannesburg, South Africa, who shares invaluable insights into the intricate balance between solo practice and coven work within the realm of Alexandrian witchcraft. Ruan’s journey, from initiation in the United States to establishing a coven in Johannesburg, South Africa, serves as a cornerstone for a deeper exploration into the essence of Alexandrian witchcraft, the significance of self-practice, and the communal power of the coven. This episode delves into the art of circle casting, the role of personal development in magical practice, and the critical examination of mental health and addiction within the craft. Additionally, the discussion sheds light on the often-overlooked craft laws, the Book of Shadows, and the nuanced topics of socializing within the craft and the responsibilities of high priesthood. Join us as we navigate through these profound themes, guided by the experiences and wisdom of Ruan, to uncover the nuanced dynamics of solo and coven work in modern witchcraft.
Recommended reading for this episode: Beauty, Truth, Silence, Love. by Maxine Sanders https://medium.com/maxine-sanders/beauty-truth-silence-love-3de659bdfc2e
Main Topics Discussed:
The Role of Sexual Arousal in Witchcraft:
Gardner's Views on Homosexuality:
Defining Tradition in Witchcraft:
Witchcraft as a Religion:
Autonomy and Training in Witchcraft:
Exploring the Philosophical Aspects of Alexandrian Witchcraft:
Coven Autonomy and the Development of Tradition:
Conclusion:
We sat down with Brian Cain, a renowned High Priest within the Alexandrian Tradition of Witchcraft, to discuss the complexities and beauty of the Alexandrian Tradition of Witchcraft. Delve into the essence of coven autonomy, the sacredness of lineage and training, and the philosophical pillars that underpin this tradition.
Key Highlights:
Coven Autonomy and Tradition: Brian Cain highlights the importance of autonomy in fostering a thriving environment for covens, rooted in the practices outlined in the Book of Shadows. Autonomy ensures that covens can flourish independently, underpinned by a set of core practices and philosophical beliefs that distinguish Alexandrian witchcraft.
Lineage, Training, and Identity: The conversation navigates the nuanced discussion around lineage versus training. Brian Cain stresses that while lineage connects witches to a rich historical tapestry, it is the rigorous training and adherence to the tradition's philosophical and magical practices that truly define an Alexandrian witch.
Same-Sex Initiation Debate: A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the topic of same-sex initiation within the tradition. Brian Cain provides a comprehensive overview of the traditional stance on initiation rites, rooted in fertility symbolism and the representation of the divine masculine and feminine. He argues for the preservation of these practices based on religious and magical principles, while also acknowledging the diversity of beliefs within the broader witchcraft community.
Modern Challenges and Authenticity: Brian candidly addresses the challenges faced by traditional witchcraft in the modern era, including the dilution of practices and the rise of "tradition collectors." He advocates for a disciplined approach to training and a deep reverence for the tradition's teachings to maintain the integrity and power of Alexandrian witchcraft.
The Future of Witchcraft: The episode concludes with a forward-looking discussion on the future of witchcraft, the role of books and teachings in preserving tradition, and the importance of inclusivity while upholding core practices and beliefs.
Join us as we unravel the mysteries of Alexandrian witchcraft with Brian Cain, offering insights for both seasoned practitioners and those new to the path. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking a deeper understanding of traditional witchcraft and its place in the contemporary spiritual landscape.