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Follow the Rabbit
Igor Schwarzmann, Johannes Kleske
51 episodes
5 days ago
Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.
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Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.
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The Rashomon Effect: When Multiple Realities Are All True
Follow the Rabbit
40 minutes 13 seconds
6 months ago
The Rashomon Effect: When Multiple Realities Are All True

In a world of polarized perspectives, the path forward isn't choosing one truth but developing empathy for contradictory realities that exist simultaneously.

Igor and Johannes explore how we navigate a world where multiple versions of reality exist at once. Through the lens of Igor's recent trip to the United States, they unpack how media narratives, firsthand experiences, and personal encounters can tell completely different—yet equally valid—stories about the same place.

Using Akira Kurosawa's film "Rashomon" as a framework, they reveal why empathy—not just data or information—is crucial for bridging divides. Whether you're a strategist trying to understand customers, a citizen making sense of political divides, or simply someone navigating our increasingly complex world, this episode offers insights on seeing beyond single perspectives.

Johannes introduces the concept of the “comfort class”—privileged individuals whose disconnection from everyday struggles helps explain everything from political polarization to failed corporate strategies. The episode concludes with a look at how the Global South views technology and AI with optimism, challenging dominant Western narratives.

If you've ever wondered why people seem to be living in completely different realities, this episode offers a practical approach to making sense of it all.


Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction & Episode Overview

01:41 - Welcome Back & Travel Context

02:09 - Igor's US Travel Experience & Preparations

09:49 - The Rashomon Framework: Multiple Truths Existing Simultaneously

14:03 - Three Witnesses: Media, Geographic & Integrated Perspectives

18:18 - Research, Facts & Multiple Realities

20:22 - Designing for Empathy: Gen Z Research Example

24:38 - The Comfort Class Article & Status Anxiety

28:34 - Political Implications: Disconnection from Everyday Struggles

31:02 - Navigating Multiple Realities in Strategy Work

34:04 - Global South Perspectives on Technology & AI

37:09 - Concluding Thoughts: There Is No Big Picture

39:49 - Outro & Thanks


Links:

  • Rashomon (1950)
  • We’re Experts in Fascism. We’re Leaving the U.S. | NYT Opinion]
  • The Comfort Class Doesn't Get It
  • Johannes' Future Days Conference Reels
  • Payal Arora: From Pessimism to Promise
  • Sari Azout's talk


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Follow the Rabbit
Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.