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Follow the Rabbit
Igor Schwarzmann, Johannes Kleske
51 episodes
3 days ago
Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.
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Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.
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Out of Love and Necessity: How Patta Uses Print to Create Cultural Depth
Follow the Rabbit
43 minutes 13 seconds
6 months ago
Out of Love and Necessity: How Patta Uses Print to Create Cultural Depth

Why a leading brand chooses to tell its story through limited-circulation magazines in the digital age

In this follow-up to our indie magazine exploration, we welcome Guillaume "Gee" Schmidt, co-founder of Patta, to discuss how print magazines function within contemporary brand ecosystems. What began as a sneaker boutique in Amsterdam has evolved into a multifaceted cultural force spanning clothing, music, sports, and social initiatives, with their biannual print magazine serving as a connective tissue between these elements.


The conversation explores how magazines shaped Guillaume's worldview from an early age, from The Source to Fantastic Man, before examining why Patta launched their own publication during the pandemic. “Magazines slow down time,” Guillaume explains, contrasting the deliberate experience of page-turning with the rapid pace of digital scrolling. This deceleration creates space for deeper storytelling and unexpected cultural connections that reflect Patta's philosophy of operating between established categories.


Most revealing is Guillaume's articulation of the magazine's purpose: not as a revenue generator, but as a cultural artifact that embodies Patta's ethos of “out of love and necessity rather than profit and novelty.” Through editorial choices that deliberately juxtapose diverse influences—from grime artists to political philosophers—the magazine materializes Patta's commitment to representing Blackness while refusing to be pigeonholed. The conversation highlights how physical media creates different relationships with audiences than digital content, revealing the continued relevance of tactile experiences in building authentic community connections.


Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction & Patta's Evolution

03:42 - Patta's Origin Story

08:32 - Magazines as Cultural Touchpoints

12:05 - Why Create a Print Magazine Today

17:03 - Beyond Monetization: Magazines as Brand Expression

24:46 - Content and Cultural Connections

30:33 - Blackness as Starting Point

35:01 - Magazine Distribution and Community Building

39:14 - Digital vs. Physical Media Ecosystem

42:35 - Future Directions for Patta and Print


Links:

  • Patta: https://www.patta.nl/
  • Patta Magazine (available only in Patta stores)
  • Follow the Rabbit s04e11 - Indie Magazines: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/follow-the-rabbit/episodes/From-Davos-to-your-Inbox-Narratives--Newsletters--and-Nuances-with-Adrian-Monck-e31ad2o 


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Follow the Rabbit
Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.