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Finding the Words
Ken Kinsley
20 episodes
7 hours ago
Delve into the overlooked and underappreciated artistic genre of text-based art. For centuries people have been using words in creative visual ways, but usually their work is either slotted into other genres or pushed aside completely, despite some of the biggest names in art fitting into this category. During each show we’ll sit down for a talk with an artist who uses words as a major focus in their practice for an in-depth look at where is their work is taking them next, what are the ways that using text helps them get their message across, and what was it that drew them to this style in the first place.
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Delve into the overlooked and underappreciated artistic genre of text-based art. For centuries people have been using words in creative visual ways, but usually their work is either slotted into other genres or pushed aside completely, despite some of the biggest names in art fitting into this category. During each show we’ll sit down for a talk with an artist who uses words as a major focus in their practice for an in-depth look at where is their work is taking them next, what are the ways that using text helps them get their message across, and what was it that drew them to this style in the first place.
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Episodes (20/20)
Finding the Words
Tony Lewis
From his breakthrough series "Anthology," which turned Calvin & Hobbes into poetry, to his epic installation pieces that transform William Buckley's arguments from his 1965 Cambridge debate with James Baldwin into graphite-coated strenography, Tony Lewis has carved a unique space for himself in contemporary drawing. Working mainly in graphite, Lewis' practice challenges the conventions of language and functions simultaneously as abstraction, text-based, conceptual, personal, and political, creating one of the more innovative bodies of work in art today. Tony joined me from his studio in Chicago to discuss the recent 4-person show he was a part of, What Drawing Can Be: Four Responses, at the Menil Drawing Institute in Houston, as well as how stenography found its way into his work, and what he had to sacrifice to create his Calvin & Hobbes-based series. Photo: Evan Jenkins https://massimodecarlo.com/artists/tony-lewis https://www.menil.org/exhibition/what-drawing-can-be-four-responses
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2 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 50 seconds

Finding the Words
Michael James Schneider
Michael James Schneider's quotes that promote positive mental health rendered in mylar balloons have become an online sensation. They seem somewhat destined to succeed, but his route to this point was far from assured. A self-taught artist, Michael has gone from retail management to now releasing his second book on August 5th, 2025, with a special book signing happening on Saturday, August 9th at Powell's Books in Portland. We discuss the new book, some of the bad advice he received along the way, and his symbiotic relationship with a very unexpected group of people. Instagram: @blcksmth X: @BLCKSMTHdesign Online store: https://blcksmth.dashery.com/ Powell's book signing event: https://www.powells.com/events/michael-james-schneider-8-9-25 Penguin Books: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/728757/the-writings-on-the-wall-by-michael-james-schneider/
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3 months ago
58 minutes 50 seconds

Finding the Words
Jesse Duquette
Jesse Duquette has been skewering DJT, and the various boot lickers in his orbit, since day one of the first Trump administration. He started the Daily Don in 2017, by posting one drawing everyday detailing all the lies and buffoonery. His current Instagram account continues that same mission and has been a consistent target for the political right. Jesse is threatened consistently by online trolls and Meta has harassed him with an onslaught of shadow bans, and even removing all of his accounts, along with his 200K+ followers, from all Meta platforms right before the election back in October of 2024. I sat down with Jesse to discuss all of this, as well as the fate of his archive after he was banned by Meta, the current state of political cartooning, and how far is too far for his art. jesseduquette.com jesseduquette.substack.com
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4 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 17 seconds

Finding the Words
Halldór Ragnarsson
Iceland's Halldór Ragnarsson uses a combination of repetitive phrases in his native Icelandic, abstract compositions, and a muted palette punctuated with bright yellow to create the signature look of his paintings. I had a chance to ask Halldór about how he comes up with his phrases and how repetition fit into his philosophy of language, and the transformative nature of losing his home studio in a fire. He was recently here in Los Angeles, but despite missing each other, we might get to meet up again after all! hragnarsson.com
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4 months ago
40 minutes 43 seconds

Finding the Words
Robbie Austin
The creative journey of Lake Charles, LA artist Robbie Austin is filled with starts and stops, detours, and coincidences. You could say in a way it's all been one very long u-turn, which led him from Louisiana, to Los Angeles for college, on to Houston, then back to his hometown. After an extensive period away from art he's back and better than ever, putting his signature abstractions onto old text-laden pages from field books and maps sourced from a most unlikely location. We discuss this journey, 80's new wave music, the role art plays in Robbie's spiritual quest, and the power of opening yourself up to divine inspiration. https://robbieaustin.com/
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5 months ago
58 minutes 12 seconds

Finding the Words
Dave Buonaguidi (The Real Hackney Dave)
After a 35-year career in advertising that saw him co-found not just one but two of the top firms in the British ad world, Dave Buonaguidi (whom you might know from Instagram as Real Hackney Dave) was at a crossroads, both personally and professionally. He needed to find a new path for himself, and found just that after a fateful screen printing seminar. It should come as no surprise that the same razor-sharp wit that served him so well on accounts for Ikea and Nintendo would become a staple of his equally profane, profound, and positive statements on his posters. It would also make sense that he would print those statements on vintage ephemera sourced from flea markets on both sides of the Atlantic, providing them with a second act similar to his own. Dave and I get into his exit from advertising, his entry into fine art, the connection between the two, and the surprising communal nature of chicken sandwiches. Oh! And as for the promise he makes at the end of the interview... he made good on that before I could even finish posting this episode. He's a man of his word. Thanks Dave! realhackneydave.com
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6 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 50 seconds

Finding the Words
Tim Youd (Encore)
In honor of Tim Youd's latest installation of the 100 Novels series, here is an encore presentation of his visit on the very first episode of Finding the Words. Tim will be retyping The Dick Gibson Show by Stanley Elkin, as well as the short story collection Criers & Kibitzers, Kibitzers & Criers, in conjunction with the current exhibition "Stanley and Joan Elkin's Artistic Kingdom" at the Olin Library at Washington University in St. Louis. Since the novel is about a late-night radio DJ, Tim will be doing the retyping (an entire novel onto one page over and over to create a battered and layered "drawing") at the Wash U college radio station KWUR 90.3 during the overnight shift from April 14 to May 1. During the typing he will be playing a series of recorded interviews with artists, writers, curators, astrologists, typewriter historians, typewriter repairmen, costume designers, and more. Including one podcaster who *might* sound a bit familiar. To access the interviews visit timyoud.com
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6 months ago
31 minutes 8 seconds

Finding the Words
Nathaniel Russell
From woodblock prints and paintings, to concert posters for top-line acts and recording his own music, Indianapolis-based multi-disciplinary artist Nathaniel Russell has proven he can do it all. I sat down with Nathaniel a few days before the closing reception for his two-person show along with Lori Damiano, Foot Chorus, at Minnow Arts in Santa Cruz, CA, to discuss how he's able to keep creating in so many different mediums, the importance or connection and relationships, and the role that art and music play as an extension of life. Plus, I learned that something I always thought was a nickname is actually an official term! www.nathanielrussell.com Photo by Katie Coles
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7 months ago
51 minutes 13 seconds

Finding the Words
Greg Miller
Reconnecting with someone who's been an important part of your life is always wonderful, but when that person is also a top-notch painter with fantastic stories to tell, you just have to share. Greg Miller, one of my former college teachers, is also a skilled mixed media artist. A self-described "contemporary cave painter," he combines painting and collages of vintage magazines to add layers and depth, as well as mixing figuration with text to create nuanced narratives that, despite a certain level of nostalgia, still look forward towards contemporary issues. On top of all that, he tells some great stories about art world luminaries, how visiting abandoned ghost towns in northern California as a child still influences his work today, and (my personal favorite) the infamous Keith Haring volleyball incident. https://gmillerstudio.com/
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8 months ago
51 minutes 39 seconds

Finding the Words
Duane Toops
This episode with Florida-based collage artist Duane Toops is bittersweet. While excited to chat with Duane about his immersive analog/digital hybrid collages, the circumstances surrounding the interview were challenging to say the least. Recorded a few days after wildfires tore through the LA area (my home and family are ok, but the effects on the city can't be understated) which caused a huge pause in this episode's production. Then on the eve of finally posting this Duane revealed that he not only lost his job, but was then forced to let go of his studio. In our discussion we touch on the importance of the studio to not only his daily art practice, but how it's his "happy place," a place crucial to his daily well-being. Listening back to our talk, it hits a little differently now; a reminder of the January fires that seem a lifetime ago, an echo of an artist's bygone routine, but it's also a reminder that a lot of people out there are struggling with the havoc that this "project" that is 2025 is wreaking on our society and that we need to look out for and check in on our friends and neighbors now more than ever. Despite all of this, our conversation was one of the most joyous and philosophical of the ten that I've done so far. We discuss his need for routine, his innate need to create, and of course the role his studio played in not only his art, but in his everyday life. Instagram: @duanetoops Substack: duanetoops.substack.com
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8 months ago
47 minutes 3 seconds

Finding the Words
Joseph O'Neal
In the non-objective paintings of Joseph O'Neal, one constant holds true: dualities. Eye-popping colors combine with stark black and white. Ambiguous shapes play off of thought-provoking text that seems to drift in on a stray radio frequency. Even his recurring series of paintings of Jackie Onassis contain hidden dualities, which we get into, as well as Joseph's journey as an artist, in our discussion from his studio in Easton, PA.
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10 months ago
29 minutes 21 seconds

Finding the Words
Richard Ankrom
Though best know for his 2001 piece Guerrilla Public Service, which consisted of taking it upon himself to correct an oversight on downtown Los Angeles freeway signage, Richard Ankrom has had an extremely varied and interesting artistic career and creative journey. I sat down with him to discuss sign making and his various forays into fine art. And, of course, we discuss Guerrilla Public Service, as well as other projects lurking in the shadows that he has yet to divulge. https://ankrom.org/ https://youtu.be/Clgl63CWOkM?si=LZkToV0CBt-fdS0n Photo: Gary Leonard
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10 months ago
43 minutes 11 seconds

Finding the Words
Dear Anushka
In the street art hub of Lisbon, one artist isn't aiming her spray paint can at buildings. Dear Anushka chooses instead to tag her particular brand of witty sayings, romantic longings, and universally relatable missives onto a much different canvas: discarded mattresses left on the streets. We discuss how these temporary queen-sized galleries provide a voice for the voiceless while performing an unexpected public service. Instagram: @dear.anushka website: dearanuska.com
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11 months ago
38 minutes 22 seconds

Finding the Words
Corita Kent (with Nellie Scott)
Corita Kent, or Sister Mary Corita as she was known in her days as a nun, was an educator, activist, and widely-acclaimed artist, creating some of the most influential pop art serigraphs of the 1960s. Her career continued into the 1980s, and the steward of her art and legacy is the Corita Art Center in Los Angeles, led by Executive Director Nellie Scott. In this episode I sit down and talk with Ms. Scott about Corita's life, the history and legacy of her art, and what big things are in store for the center in the very near future. https://www.corita.org/
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11 months ago
41 minutes 44 seconds

Finding the Words
Chad Etting
Today's guest is New Hampshire-based painter, Chad Etting. We discuss Chad's influences, how the pandemic helped shape his practice, his surprising beginnings in New York City after graduation, plus a whole lot more. https://www.chadetting.com/
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12 months ago
30 minutes 22 seconds

Finding the Words
Eric Stefanski
On the closing day (10/19/2024) of his Los Angeles solo debut show "I'm Trying to Live Forever" at Lowell Ryan Projects, Eric Stefanski joins me from his studio in Chicago to discuss the themes in his work, the beginnings of his artistic journey, plus a peek at what the future holds in store. https://www.ericstefanski.com/ https://www.lowellryanprojects.com/eric-stefanski-im-trying-to-live-forever
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1 year ago
39 minutes 10 seconds

Finding the Words
Eloisa Hernandez Viramontes
For today's episode Kenneth chats with Mexico City-based author Eloisa Hernandez Viramontes about her new book The Word as Artistic Language: Textual Practices in Mexico, which is the first book to ever tackle the topic of Mexican text-based art. But, you probably already know Eloisa for her Instagram account, Word Artworks.
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1 year ago
28 minutes 48 seconds

Finding the Words
Judy Lichtman
Here's my discussion with Joshua Tree-based artist Judy Lichtman. We dig into how the events of 2020 ushered her into her text-based style, how her art practice and her painting practice coincide, and what life is like in her tight-knit desert artistic community. judylichtman.com https://www.mbcac.org/pages/hwy-62-open-studio-art-tours
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1 year ago
36 minutes 46 seconds

Finding the Words
Tim Youd
For our first episode Kenneth talks to L.A.-based multi-disciplinary artist Tim Youd about his 100 novels series and its latest installments in Georgia Retyped at Atlanta Contemporary. By using a typewriter as an element of performance, Tim's art examines the act of reading closely by crushing an entire novel into a diptych. How? Join us to find out. https://atlantacontemporary.org/exhibitions/tim-youd https://timyoud.com/
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1 year ago
31 minutes 8 seconds

Finding the Words
Finding the Words trailer
Welcome! Listen to find out about the only podcast devoted to text-base art and the artists who create it.
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1 year ago
3 minutes 20 seconds

Finding the Words
Delve into the overlooked and underappreciated artistic genre of text-based art. For centuries people have been using words in creative visual ways, but usually their work is either slotted into other genres or pushed aside completely, despite some of the biggest names in art fitting into this category. During each show we’ll sit down for a talk with an artist who uses words as a major focus in their practice for an in-depth look at where is their work is taking them next, what are the ways that using text helps them get their message across, and what was it that drew them to this style in the first place.