It's a Martin Scorsese special episode of the Film Stories podcast, kicking off with the tale behind 1980's immense Raging Bull. This is the film the Scorsese for a long time didn't want to make, but Robert De Niro did. It was also the film that involved some trading off with Rocky II to get the money to make in the first place. And it'd involve De Niro going to extreme lengths to get his Oscar-winning performance right. Martin Scorsese is also the subject of five-part Apple TV documentary series Mr Scorsese, that's been directed by Rebecca Miller. She joins Simon to chat about how the documentary came together, the five year path to getting it made, and nuns... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices