This week we were joined by Shane Yay. Shane has had many films in Failed Films over the years, each one a testament to their curiosity. Shane’s work incorporates a plethora of movie-making craft and techniques that always leaves me wondering how they did that. Their films are soaking with stories that such you in the alien Orpheus. 

I was excited to talk to Shane about making their film ABCs of Fetish and what it is like to balance a patron's gaze with their own creative desires.

The conversation quickly turned to the definition of failure itself and how Shane thinks about it within his own creative process. We explored the driving force of dissatisfaction and how to use art to learn new things. 

It’s a fun, deeply reflective conversation between old friends, and I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed being a part of it.