When we talk about how mature our church is, we often think about its age, programs, or leadership structures. But the Church is none of those things—it’s people. And every person is a gift Jesus has given to his Church. The real question is… are your people mature?
In this episode of the Everyday Disciple Podcast, I’m joined by my good friend Alan Hirsch, one of the most trusted voices in the missional movement. Together, we explore why so many churches remain stuck in growth and maturity—and how Ephesians 4 gives us a surprisingly simple key to unlocking both. We’ll see that this passage isn’t just about leadership—it’s about all of us, living in the fullness of life Jesus experienced with his Father and intended for his family.
In This Episode You’ll Learn:
– The overlooked “key” to unity and maturity found in Ephesians 4
– How to see leadership and ministry through a biblical, life-giving lens
– Why you are a gift to your church and community, given by Jesus himself!
– What happens when churches ignore or limit the 5 gifts Jesus gave to his people
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