Here we go—the last episode of Est.Church. Micah Fries is back for the final one! But the conversation continues...Josh and Sam are migrating the Est.Church conversation to the Rainer on Leadership podcast in January. If you are not subscribed to Rainer on Leadership, you can do so in your favorite podcasting app. 

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Churchteams:

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Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

Josh and Sam welcome Micah Fries back to the show and reminisce about the early days of this podcast. Micah gives an update on his current ministry. Remember, the Est.Church conversation will move to the Rainer on Leadership podcast in January. If you are not subscribed to Rainer on Leadership, you can do so in your favorite podcasting app.

Episode Sponsor:

Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

How will preachers study differently in the next few years? Josh and Sam talk about the changes in sermon preparation and delivery. The use of artificial intelligence is a major ethical consideration, but there are other issues at play. The coming shifts are more positive than negative.


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Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

What changes after leading a church once you hit the nine-year mark? Sam shares his insight about shepherding the same congregation for several years. The issue of trust is settled. The sheep shuffling slows down or stops. Casting a vision becomes more challenging, not easier, because it's easy to start cruising when a church is stabilized. 

Episode Sponsor:

Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

The first 90 days are critical when making a pastoral transition to a new church. Since he just transitioned to a new church, Josh shares some insight into what to do and what not to do. Slow down, ask questions, prioritize problems, emphasize learning, and listen to all sides. 

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Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

Leading a church is a grind. The job cycles endlessly, and the only endpoint is Christ's return. Josh and Sam discuss how to have healthy boundaries in the barrage of ministry. You can find a pace that includes rest and recreation. The cohosts discuss how.

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Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

Josh and Sam discuss how to say goodbye when people leave the church on good terms. They also discuss the best ways to help church staff transition when called to another ministry. And they have a big announcement, too. Listen to the end!

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Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

How can you avoid spending too much time preparing sermons and lessons when you have to prepare three or four different ones a week? Josh and Sam reflect on when they had to prepare Sunday morning sermons, Sunday night sermons, Wednesday night teaching sessions, and Sunday school lessons--every week! 

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Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

Many people are intimidated by technology because they don't know how to use it. Churches and pastors are no exception. Boyd Pelley of Churchteams joins Josh and Sam to discuss ways to overcome this intimidation factor. 

Episode Sponsor:

Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

Most pastors struggle with insecurities, agitation, stress, and failure. How can you get out of a funk when these problems cause you to have a poor attitude? Josh and Sam discuss how they end up with a poor attitude and what they do to make an adjustment. 

Episode Sponsor:

Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

Every pastor has a list of problems to solve. Josh and Sam talk about what's on their big board of problems right now. The co-hosts discuss the topics of evangelism, facilities, staff, finances, and legacy. 

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Churchteams:

Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling?

Churchteams was built to unite all your people and data under one umbrella with best-in-class quality features.

Churchteams is offering a special 30-minute demo of its new user interface to Est.Church listeners on November 7th at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. The first 15 registrants who attend will receive a $20 Amazon gift card! Everyone who attends and starts using Churchteams gets the first three months free. If you have thought about checking out new ChMS software, it doesn't get better than this! Go to Est. Church to register or use Text-to-Church and send DEMO to (817) 677-9750.

Can you be called to a church but not like the job? How do you distinguish between God's calling and job responsibilities? Josh and Sam discuss how you can juggle the spiritual parts of shepherding with the business of managing church operations. 

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How can you lead a church revitalization when everything is a mismatch? Rob Paul joins Josh and Sam to discuss what it's like to shepherd a church when you're a white pastor in a black neighborhood. The story of Huffman Baptist will inspire and encourage you. God has worked a miracle through the congregation and made the church the hub of the community.

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Both Josh and Sam have been in ministry for a combined 42 years. Along the way, they've learned a few things about extending your mileage as a pastor. What can you do to stay the course for the long term? The co-hosts have some thoughts.

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Some ministry strategies are overrated, but everyone seems to be doing them. Josh and Sam discuss their thoughts on what's popular but you don't really need. The co-hosts cover vision statements, one-line sermon summaries, live streaming, and others. 

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What is the ideal church size to pastor? Josh and Sam discuss the benefits of several different sizes of churches. They each have a favorite size, but the cohosts also cover why many pastors maximize their leadership ability at mid-size churches. 

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What gets you out of the church office? Josh and Sam talk about key reasons why pastors need to venture out more. It's good to connect with homebound people, other pastors, and community leaders. But pastors also need to recharge and share their faith. 

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Are their offenses that permanently disqualify a pastor from ministry? Josh and Sam cover this controversial question. They discuss the recent rise in scandals and whether or not a fallen pastor should return to ministry. Some sins have deeper consequences than others. 

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Most church leaders do not know how many single parents live in the community. Single moms and dads are often underestimated and off the radar. Sam and Josh talk about ways to engage single parents and their children. With some simple changes, your church can make a big difference with this group. 

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Should your church address be permanent? When is it appropriate to relocate an entire church or sell the church campus? Josh and Sam talk about what motivates a church to uproot. You must balance missiology with stewardship, and sometimes, these two objectives are at odds. 

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Get value without compromise. Pricing is simple and based on the number of people in the database. This includes all the essential features so that you can grow into using more without having to pay more. Plans start at $37 per month for churches under 200 people. Get two months free at EST.church!