In this conversation, Sarah chats with Phil Matthews, her former sergeant and team leader from her time as a Probationary Constable. Phil shares his experiences working in the police force, including his time in Kings Cross and at the Sydney Olympics. He also discusses the lack of support for mental health issues during his career and the impact it had on him. Phil recounts a time where he was shot at and reflects on the subsequent decline in his mental health. Phil shares his struggles with anxiety, panic attacks, and agoraphobia as a result of his experiences as a police officer. He discusses the challenges he faced in seeking help and the lack of understanding and support from the police force. Phil highlights the importance of having a supportive family and the role they played in his recovery.

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