Former rugby coach and renowned pundit Matt Williams joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN in a very special interview. The pair discuss the 2025 Rugby Championship and how tightly contested - and exciting - the competition has been. Matt shares insights on coaching philosophies, leadership, and the importance of belief within a team. With Eden Park hosting a huge Bledisloe Cup test this weekend, and Perth set for another soon after, Matt and Lachie weigh up what’s at stake for both New Zealand and Australia. It’s a passionate conversation that blends analysis, history, and optimism, without revealing too much about Williams’ predictions. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Warriors coach Tony Kemp is back on the DSPN with Lachlan Waugh, diving deep into a thrilling weekend of NRL finals action, that saw the Panthers and Sharks secure spots in the preliminary finals. The pair cover Penrith’s dominant run, their upcoming clash with Brisbane, the Broncos' chances of taking the four-time defending premiers down, and the twists and turns of other finals clashes. Kempy shares his thoughts on Canberra's disappointing finish to 2025, whether Cronulla's hot form can continue against Melbourne, and the performances of Nicho Hynes, Braydon Trindall, and Addin Fonua-Blake. Kempy and Lachie wrap up by giving predictions for the grand final qualifiers this coming weekend. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Experienced Aussie rugby commentator Greg Clark reflects on the Wallabies' long Bledisloe Cup drought, recalling the last win at Eden Park in 1986 and the golden era in the 1990s. Ahead of this year’s clash opening test at Eden Park this weekend, Clarkie and Tony Johnson discuss key challenges, including the loss of stars like Rob Valentini, uncertainty at halfback and first five-eighth, and the vital impact of players like Tom Wright. Clarkie highlights Australian coach Joe Schmidt’s influence in rebuilding rugby in the country, praising sellout crowds and emerging talent. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tony Johnson starts off with an editorial on what he describes as the most important fortnight for the All Blacks in 2025, as well as touching on a couple of other big rugby storylines over the weekend - including the Black Fern's 34-19 loss to Canada in the women's World Cup semifinals. Then, TJ is joined by former Black Fern Kristina Sue, who credits Canada’s clinical performance and resilience, fueled by adversity and top-level competition abroad. She highlights New Zealand’s struggles with discipline, handling errors, and injuries, including the absence of x-factor Jorja Miller. Looking ahead, Sue calls for stronger international calendars, greater investment, and exposing players to diverse rugby styles. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Warriors, Panthers and Raiders coach Matthew Elliott joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN, to preview the second weekend of NRL finals action for 2025. Matt and Lachie first cover off the exciting season for the Warriors, and how far off  - if far at all - they are from a Grand Final appearance. Matt highlights the Warriors’ access to a massive pool of players in New Zealand, stressing the importance of developing them to be ready for NRL level, similar to Penrith’s system. The conversation shifts to previewing this weekend's matches between the Raiders and Sharks, and Bulldogs and Panthers. Matt believes a couple of upsets could be on the cards. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former All Black Ant Strachan joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN, to further reflect on New Zealand's heavy defeat to South Africa in Wellington, and what the repercussions from the 33-point loss will be. Ant highlights a lack of physicality, resulting in the ABs losing the collision battle, as well as the need for resilience in the playing group. The pair mourn the loss of some experienced heads like Sam Whitelock and Aaron Smith, and wonder what experience is in the squad now to help change their fortunes. Ant believes New Zealand must build a strong 45 player pool - or three XV's - to future-proof the team and maintain competitiveness. The pair also cover off NPC rugby, in particular Auckland's slight uptick in form recently. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Black Ferns captain Les Elder joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN to preview a crucial women’s Rugby World Cup semifinal between New Zealand and Canada. Elder discusses the impact of losing star player Jorja Miller, key selection calls, and why Canada is a far tougher opponent than many expect. The pair reflect on the Black Ferns’ nervy quarter-final against South Africa and the need for strong goal kicking under pressure in knockout games. Elder also explores how Canada’s centralised program and overseas experience have elevated their game. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the latest edition of Day In The Life, John Day is joined by All Blacks, Hurricanes and Counties Manukau halfback Cam Roigard, ahead of the latter's return to rugby this weekend. Roigard makes his long-awaited return from a fractured foot, and will feature in the Steelers' NPC clash with Auckland. He opens up about the challenges of rehab, the importance of the halfback's kicking game at test level, and the All Blacks’ need to bounce back after a tough loss against the Springboks. With Eden Park and the Wallabies on the horizon, Roigard’s focus is on proving his fitness and helping his team secure a vital win. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tony Kemp - former Warriors coach and Kiwis representative - brings energy and insight as he breaks down a thrilling weekend of NRL finals action on the DSPN. The Wahs fought hard but fell to Penrith, and Kempy has plenty to say about what went wrong – and what needs to change for next season. From Reece Walsh’s game-changing brilliance against Canberra, to the drama of extra time, the conversation covers everything from refereeing decisions to young stars emerging on the big stage. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The All Blacks’ record-breaking loss to the Springboks has left fans stunned and questioning everything from coaching to player motivation. Young producer Lachlan Waugh firstly presents a few nagging thoughts he has on the defeat and what the fallout will be. Then, he is joined by DSPN host Martin Devlin - LIVE from Italy - who drops by to share his opinion on the ABs defeat. Marty calls the last 20 minutes “embarrassing” and Lachie wonders wondering if there are real consequences for poor performances. The pair discuss coach Scott Robertson’s future, leadership on the field, and whether the team still plays for the love of the jersey. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Longtime South African rugby reporter Brenden Nel joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN, to cover off the Springboks incredible 43-10 victory over the All Blacks. Brenden calls it one of the most remarkable performances he’s seen, especially given how New Zealand’s heads dropped late in the game. He highlights the Springboks’ youth, depth, and tactical precision under assistant Tony Brown’s influence, while noting New Zealand’s lack of experienced stars compared to past eras. The pair also delve into the All Blacks’ transition phase, coach Scott Robertson’s coaching challenges, and the slim pool of potential replacements ahead of the 2027 Rugby World Cup. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tony Johnson is joined on the DSPN by the voice of Australian rugby - Gordon Bray. Together they review the weekend's two Rugby Championship matches, that saw the Pumas and Springboks beat the Wallabies and All Blacks respectively. Gordon stresses the Wallabies’ need to fix their first-five selection dilemma, tighten discipline, and find consistency in refereeing interpretations. With Eden Park unbeaten since 1994 and the Bledisloe drought stretching back to 2003, Australia faces monumental pressure. TJ meanwhile highlights the Rugby Championship’s unpredictability, with every team still in contention. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former All Blacks and Blues hooker James Parsons joins longtime rugby commentator Tony Johnson on the DSPN, to dissect New Zealand's crushing and record-breaking 43-10 loss to South Africa in Wellington. Parsons praises the Springboks' clinical second-half performance and strategic variety, highlighting their dominance at the gain line and lightning-quick ball. He stresses the importance of "risk analysis" when selecting the All Blacks’ forward pack for tests to come. With Australia growing in confidence under coach Joe Schmidt, the pair ponder how possible it is that the All Blacks lose the Bledisloe Cup in 2025. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us on the DSPN for post-match reaction to the All Blacks' record-breaking 43-10 loss to the Springboks in Wellington. Young producer Lachlan Waugh dissects the game and all its main talking points, including the potential fallout. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time for Marty's Mailbag! Minus the Marty part. Every week on the DSPN, host Martin Devlin and young producer Lachlan Waugh work through comments from viewers and listeners on the YouTube, Spotify and social channels, and discuss/answer/applaud/criticise them as best they can. This week, Lachie hosts as Marty is away on holiday. Mr Producer talks about the All Blacks team changes for the second Springboks test, the legacy of Richie McCaw, Dan Carter and Ardie Savea, and the strange situation with Dame Noeline Taurua and Netball New Zealand. All that and much more! Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Zane The Warriorholic joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN to preview the NRL finals series, with a distinct Wahs flavour. The pair look to Saturday's clash with the Penrith Panthers in Auckland, including what the Warriors need to do to take down the four-time defending premiers. They also look at the other three matches on and offer predictions. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Christy Doran, rugby editor at The Roar in Sydney, joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN to break down a wild week for the Wallabies and Rugby Championship action. After scraping past Argentina with a dramatic 86th-minute winner, Christy highlights Australia’s improved discipline under Joe Schmidt, the growing strength of their back row, and why this time the team's turn around is for real and not just a flash in the pan. Christy and Lachie also discuss the ongoing struggle to find a long-term first-five starter. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a very special interview, Springboks legend John Smit joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN, in between the two All Blacks-South Africa rugby tests. Smit talks about both teams and where they're at, the Springboks constant rotation under coach Rassie Erasmus, and whether or not that could be detrimental to their 2027 World Cup build-up. Smit also touches on his own illustrious career - including his 2007 World Cup win, whitewashing the All Blacks 3-0 in 2009, and playing both hooker and tighthead prop at a high level. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Longtime Kiwi sports broadcaster Nigel Yalden joins the DSPN to break down coach Scott Robertson’s latest All Blacks selections, for this weekend's test against the Springboks in Wellington. Nigel praises the depth Razor has built, highlighting Leroy Carter’s rapid rise to a starting spot and Noah Hotham’s return at halfback. He explains how the All Blacks’ set-piece variations could keep South Africa guessing and why Simon Parker’s physicality has been a game-changer. While Nigel would have preferred Luke Jacobson on the bench, he believes this side is primed for a more expansive clash. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Warriors coach and Kiwis representative Tony Kemp joins Lachlan Waugh on the DSPN, to preview an action-packed NRL finals weekend. Kemp breaks down all four matchups, and backs the Storm's experience to get past the Bulldogs despite injuries, and favours Penrith’s class over the Warriors, though he admits his heart is with the Kiwi side. He tips the Sharks vs Roosters clash to be a thriller, and expects Canberra’s grind to outlast Brisbane’s flair. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices