Meet Grace Chow and Maddie Stier—two sisters whose competitive fire has fueled a lifelong running journey that spans from childhood ice hockey rinks in Cleveland to military bases across the globe. Grace, a 7-year Marine Corps veteran and mother of a 1-year-old, embodies the "do what Grace wants to do" mentality that led her to run her first marathon at just 14 years old. Maddie, a Dallas-based mother of three and Sloths running group regular, represents the Type-A planner who thrives on structure and strategic training.
What drives these sisters isn't just sibling rivalry—though Grace admits she originally started running the mile in track simply because Maddie did it first. It's their shared understanding that running is both a personal challenge and a way to maintain identity through life's major transitions. Grace has carried her running through multiple military relocations, deployments to Italy, a CrossFit phase, and new motherhood, always finding ways to adapt without losing the core drive that had her logging 16-mile runs as a teenager. Maddie channels her competitive nature into meticulous training, showing up to track workouts with faster runners and hanging on "for dear life" because she knows that discomfort leads to growth.
Both sisters are currently training for December's California International Marathon—each balancing motherhood with serious training goals. Grace, working with her first-ever coach, hopes to break her 2:57 PR while managing early morning runs around her 1-year-old's schedule. Maddie targets a sub-2:50 breakthrough while coordinating training around three children. Their approach couldn't be more different: Grace thrives on flying by the seat of her pants while learning structure for the first time, while Maddie lives by routine and strategic planning.
Whether it's Grace running cupless marathons in Hawaii while dealing with dehydration, or Maddie maximizing every minute of training time when leaving her husband with the kids, these sisters prove that the drive to run fast comes from embracing challenge, supporting each other across distances, and never losing sight of the competitive spark that started it all in middle school track. They demonstrate that motherhood doesn't diminish athletic ambition—it sharpens the focus and makes every training opportunity count.
In this powerful conversation, Chris Detzel sits down with Theo Murdaugh, founder of Run It Up Dallas, to explore how one man's vision transformed the running landscape for Black and brown communities in Dallas. Starting with just 30-40 runners in March 2023, Theo's movement exploded to 200-300 participants after a single viral video, forcing the group to navigate rapid growth while staying true to its mission.
Theo shares his journey from corporate automotive executive to nonprofit leader, explaining how traditional run clubs often felt intimidating and exclusive to newcomers. Run It Up breaks that mold with DJ music, group stretches, pace groups for every level (including walkers), and a welcoming atmosphere that feels more like a family reunion than a serious training session.
But this isn't just about running. As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, Run It Up tackles cardiovascular health disparities head-on, partnering with organizations like the Black Heart Association to provide free health screenings and education. With heart disease and hypertension disproportionately affecting Black communities, Theo's work extends far beyond fitness into life-saving health advocacy.
The conversation covers the practical challenges of scaling from a solo operation to a 15-person team, the importance of creating inclusive spaces in predominantly white running culture, and Theo's ambitious plans to take Run It Up to HBCU campuses nationwide. Whether you're interested in community building, health equity, or just want to understand how to make fitness accessible to everyone, this episode offers valuable insights into creating meaningful change through movement.
From beginner walkers to Boston Marathon qualifiers, Run It Up proves that running can be both serious training and joyful community celebration.
In this compelling episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Julie Rembold for an in-depth look at one of the most remarkable running journeys you'll ever hear. Julie's story begins at age 37 when she started marathon training with virtually no running background, quickly dropping from a 3:47 debut at Houston Marathon to a 2:51 Boston qualifier in just two years.
But this isn't just a story about fast times. Julie's journey takes a dramatic turn when mysterious health issues began affecting her performance and quality of life. Despite running impressive marathon times, she experienced symptoms ranging from severe fatigue and heart rate irregularities to neurological issues that made her leg feel "disconnected" during runs. For four years, she battled through these challenges while doctors struggled to provide answers.
What makes Julie's story truly extraordinary is how she took her health into her own hands. Using her engineering background and relentless research, she discovered that mineral imbalances—particularly copper and iron deficiency stemming from five pregnancies and breastfeeding—were at the root of her problems. Her recovery involved switching from synthetic supplements to natural nutrition sources, ultimately healing her body completely.
Julie opens up about the challenges of balancing marathon training with raising five children, the support system that made her running possible, and how her husband's leukemia diagnosis affected her first marathon. She also discusses her transition into health coaching, helping others who face similar struggles.
Now at 45, Julie has returned to form with recent marathons under 3 hours and ambitious goals ahead, including a 2:45 target at the Marathon Project in December. Her story is a testament to the power of listening to your body, advocating for your health, and never giving up on your goals.
This episode offers valuable insights for runners dealing with unexplained performance issues, parents trying to balance training with family life, and anyone interested in the connection between nutrition and athletic performance.
Meet Jim Dietz, a 65-year-old retired TI engineer who's been defying age-group expectations with sub-1:20 half marathon times and consistent sub-18-minute 5Ks. In this conversation, Jim takes us back to the golden era of corporate running in the 1980s, when Texas Instruments funded a legendary distance running program that attracted All-Americans and near-Olympic-level talent.
Jim's journey spans 45 years, from watching a New York City Marathon movie in college to becoming part of TI's powerhouse team that could take over entire races at Plano Pacers. He shares the untold story of corporate America's investment in employee wellness through competitive running, complete with national meets, sponsored travel, and workplace cultures that encouraged midday training sessions.
After a 12-year hiatus where he gained 60 pounds, Jim returned to running at 55 and rebuilt himself into one of the most competitive masters runners in the Dallas area. His unconventional training philosophy—running hard every other day at sub-7-minute pace for 50-65 miles per week—flies in the face of traditional coaching wisdom but continues to produce remarkable results.
Beyond the times and training, this episode explores the deep community connections that have sustained Dallas running for decades, from the consistency of Plano Pacers to the enduring friendships formed at White Rock Lake. Jim reflects on retirement, staying injury-free, and why he believes someone breaking the 2:30 marathon barrier locally could inspire a wave of similar achievements.
Whether you're curious about running's corporate history, seeking motivation for masters competition, or wondering how to maintain speed well into your 60s, Jim's story offers both inspiration and practical insights from someone who's truly lived the sport.
Join host Chris Detzel for an extraordinary conversation with Alison Miller, a 46-year-old physical therapist and endurance athlete attempting one of ultra running's most grueling challenges: the Grand Slam of Ultrarunning. This rare feat requires completing four iconic 100-mile races—Western States, Vermont 100, Leadville 100, and Wasatch 100—all within a single season, totaling 400 miles in just seven weeks.
Alison's athletic journey began as a scholarship soccer player at Texas A&M, transitioned through 19 Ironman competitions (including five Kona World Championships), and evolved into ultra running where she's conquered races like UTMB, Badwater, and numerous 100-milers. But the Grand Slam represents her biggest challenge yet.
In this candid interview, Alison shares the highs and lows of her quest. From her worst-ever performance at Western States—where she chased cutoffs for 29.5 hours and barely finished within the 30-hour limit—to her redemptive run at Vermont 100, and the leg-crushing reality of Leadville's elevation and cutoffs. She discusses the mental fortitude required when your body is depleted, the challenge of not training between races, and what it takes to "dig deep" when everything hurts.
Beyond the physical feats, Alison opens up about the logistics of crew support, the financial commitment required, the importance of having a supportive spouse, and how she balances this pursuit with her career as a physical therapist. She also shares insights from her extensive Ironman background and what drives someone to continually seek bigger challenges.
With Wasatch 100 and Kona still ahead at the time of recording, this episode captures an athlete mid-journey through an almost impossible challenge. Whether you're a trail runner, road runner, or simply fascinated by human endurance, Alison's story demonstrates what's possible when determination meets preparation.
Featured Topics: Grand Slam of Ultrarunning, Western States 100, Vermont 100, Leadville 100, Wasatch 100, Ironman World Championship Kona, ultra running strategy, race nutrition, crew support, endurance psychology.
After three years away from race directing, legendary Texas trail running organizer Rob Goyen is officially back with the launch of Rise Racing Co. In this candid conversation with Chris Detzel on DFW Running Talk, Rob opens up about his journey from stepping away in 2022 to his current role as a contractor with Ultra Signup, and why the pull to return to race directing became impossible to ignore.
Rob shares the personal struggles that led to his hiatus - from wanting to be present for his young daughter Ruby to dealing with "race director nightmares" that signaled his readiness to return. He discusses his transition from Ultra Signup employee to contractor, ensuring complete separation from company data and operations while maintaining his role helping race directors succeed on the platform.
The conversation dives deep into Rise Racing's inaugural event: the Tex Miss Trail Race at Bucher State Park on December 13th, 2025. Featuring distances from 7 miles to 107K, this Christmas-themed trail party promises to showcase Rob's signature style - big, bold, fun events with serious buckles and a 20-hour cutoff for the ultra distance.
Rob also reveals his broader vision for Rise Racing: 6-8 races annually across Texas, including returns to beloved locations like Surfside Beach and San Antonio. He emphasizes community building over pure competition, discussing plans for ambassador teams, elite support, and collaborative races with other directors. His partnership with longtime colleague Amanda and focus on welcoming the growing "lifestyle trail running" demographic signal an evolution in his approach.
This episode captures both the business strategy and personal passion behind one of Texas trail running's most influential figures as he prepares to re-enter the sport that shaped his identity. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to trail running, Rob's insights into community building, race organization, and the explosive growth of running clubs offer valuable perspective on where the sport is headed.
In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Mark Olateju (affectionately known as "Mark O" to those who struggle with his last name), the beloved photographer who has been documenting the Dallas running community for over two decades. Mark's journey from a reluctant 8K participant lured by free breakfast to a sub-3:09 marathoner is as unexpected as it is inspiring.
Discover how a principal's promise of homemade breakfast sparked a running career that would span 640+ races. Mark opens up about his transformation from a "5K expert" who raced every weekend to a dedicated distance runner training at 3 AM with partners like Shaheen Satar. His story takes fascinating turns through trail running and 50-milers, all while maintaining his philosophy that "ignorance is bliss" when it comes to racing.
But Mark's true legacy lies behind the lens. Known throughout White Rock Lake and beyond as "the picture guy," he's captured thousands of moments - from triumphant PRs to those less-flattering mid-race grimaces that runners initially complained about but now treasure as authentic memories. His slow-motion videos helped runners analyze their form, though not everyone appreciated seeing their "jiggly parts" highlighted.
The conversation takes a poignant turn as Mark discusses his recent transition from competitive running following a complete knee replacement, his current focus on weightlifting and low-impact training, and his continued dedication to preserving running memories through photography. He shares the mysterious "Twilight Zone" race where runners inexplicably walked through one section of the course, memorable encounters with future Boston qualifiers, and watching his 13-year-old student casually drop a 1:27 half marathon.
This episode captures the heart of running community - the bonds formed at 4 AM training runs, the evolution from beginner to mentor, and how one person's passion for capturing moments has become an invaluable gift to an entire running community.
What happens when strangers become family through the simple act of putting one foot in front of the other? In this heartwarming episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with the leadership team of White Rock Running Co-op (WRRC) to explore how a free running club in Dallas has transformed lives and built an incredible community.
Meet Chet, who moved to Dallas knowing no one and found his people through Wednesday night runs; Craig, who discovered that showing up consistently led to lifelong friendships and invitations to concerts; Vivian, who learned that running with others isn't just more fun—it's safer; and Andy, a late-in-life runner who went from struggling to run 100 yards to completing his six World Marathon Majors, all thanks to the support and knowledge sharing within WRRC.
While we couldn't have everyone on this episode, the team also includes Nick Polito, a long-standing member who's been with the club since its infancy, and Josh Odegard, who hosts the popular Wednesday night social runs and is known for his incredible ability to connect people and build community within the group.
From track workouts on Tuesdays to the famous "Hills Pay the Bills" Wednesday sessions, Saturday long runs with post-run tacos, and Sunday recovery loops around White Rock Lake, discover how this 6,000-member community accommodates everyone from casual 5K runners to Boston qualifiers and ultra-marathoners.
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Whether you're a seasoned marathoner or someone who's never run a mile, this episode showcases the magic that happens when running becomes about more than just personal fitness—it becomes about community, friendship, and achieving dreams you never thought possible.
Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Greg Rankin, a cornerstone of the Dallas-Fort Worth running community whose journey proves it's never too late for a comeback. From earning a pink fourth-place ribbon in his first high school track meet to running a 2:46 marathon, Greg's story is one of resilience, reinvention, and the power of community.
In this episode, Greg shares his three distinct "running careers" - from a college scholarship runner who walked away from the sport, to a Young Country radio team member getting back into racing, to becoming one of DFW's most respected marathon coaches. You'll hear about his dramatic transformation from 232 pounds and struggling to tie his shoes to qualifying for Boston, his harrowing experience at the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, and how he's helped dozens of runners achieve their goals.
Greg opens up about the role running played during his divorce, his decade-long Boston Marathon streak, and his transition from corporate IT to coaching elite marathoners. He also discusses the evolution of the DFW running scene, where sub-3-hour marathons have become increasingly common and the community continues to push each other to new heights.
Whether you're a beginner looking for inspiration or an experienced runner seeking insights from a seasoned coach, Greg's story offers valuable lessons about persistence, smart training, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right community.
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Recorded live in Dallas, Texas
Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Chris and Anne Barnwell, the husband-and-wife team behind Blaze Trails Running, one of Texas's most beloved trail racing organizations.
Discover how Chris transformed from a 245-pound tech worker to an ultra-runner whose first 100-miler was the legendary Western States, and how Anne found healing and purpose through running during her own life transitions. Their love story began at a running club, evolved over cake concerts and trail miles, and ultimately led them to create a trail running empire spanning 12 races across Texas.
From taking over struggling races like Grasslands and Rockledge Rumble to building new challenges like the grueling Dana Peak course, the Barnwells share the behind-the-scenes reality of race directing—from permit struggles and weather cancellations to the incredible volunteer community that makes it all possible.
Learn about their philosophy of making trail running accessible to everyone, from 5K newcomers to seasoned 100-mile veterans, and why they believe trail running creates a unique community where elite athletes and back-of-the-pack runners share the same trails and support each other's journeys.
Whether you're a seasoned ultra-runner or someone curious about getting into trail running, this episode offers insights into the passion, dedication, and community spirit that drives the Texas trail running scene.
Featured Races: Grasslands Trail Run, Rockledge Rumble, Dana Peak Challenge, Possum Kingdom Trail Run, and more.
Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Richardson native Farrell Hedrick, whose remarkable running journey embodies the power of transformation and perseverance. What started as a simple goal to lose 50 pounds after college has evolved into an incredible story of athletic achievement and career reinvention.
Farrell shares his progression from struggling to run half a mile in uptown Dallas to becoming a 2:47 marathoner with 31 marathons under his belt. Along the way, he opens up about the mental challenges of his first Dallas Marathon, the breakthrough race at Woodlands Marathon that changed everything, and how accidentally coaching a friend led him to discover his true passion.
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Whether you're a beginner runner, seasoned marathoner, or someone contemplating a major life change, Farrell's story proves that with consistency and courage, extraordinary transformations are possible. Plus, hear about the innovative weekly track nights and community-building initiatives coming to North Texas that aim to elevate the entire Dallas running scene.
What do you get when you mix a guy who got hit by a car at 14, another who abandoned his marathon buddy via 4AM text, and enough curry paste to feed a small army? This episode of DFW Running Talk.
Join Chris as he sits down with Colin Hamilton and Philip Paris, two runners whose friendship was forged through shared miles, questionable life choices, and an inexplicable love of Indian food. Colin's journey starts with getting literally run over by his brother's girlfriend (yes, really) and somehow leads to a brief but legendary ice cream empire that had people offering him business deals while he just wanted to make frozen treats for fellow runners.
Philip's story is slightly less dramatic but equally relatable – from soccer player to cycling enthusiast to the guy who did Couch to 5K, immediately detrained, then somehow convinced himself a 4-mile Turkey Trot was achievable. Spoiler alert: it was.
The conversation takes some serious turns as Colin opens up about mental health, panic attacks, and learning when to say no to opportunities that look good on Instagram but feel terrible in real life. Meanwhile, Philip navigates the beautiful chaos of new parenthood while trying to maintain his sub-3 marathon dreams and wondering if he'll ever sleep through the night again.
From terrible marathon training advice (running every workout at race pace, anyone?) to the wind-battered disaster that was Houston 2025, these two prove that running journeys are rarely linear – and that's exactly what makes them worth sharing.
Topics covered: Injury recovery, marathon training disasters, mental health in running, entrepreneurship burnout, parenting while training, finding your running community, and why your watch doesn't actually tell you how fast to run.
Perfect for runners who've ever questioned their life choices at mile 20.
Join host Chris Detzel as he sits down with Matt Barron, whose incredible marathon journey spans over a decade of ups, downs, and breakthrough moments. Matt shares his transformation from struggling with 3:25 marathons to running a stunning 2:38 at Houston Marathon.
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Matt's story proves that marathon success isn't just about talent—it's about patience, consistency, and finding your running tribe. Whether you're chasing your first Boston qualifier or looking to break through a time plateau, this conversation offers honest insights into what it really takes to achieve your marathon goals.
Perfect for: Marathon runners, Boston Marathon hopefuls, running community enthusiasts, and anyone looking for motivation to stay consistent with their training.
Guest: Matt Barron - Sub-2:40 marathoner, Boston qualifier, and active member of the Dallas/Fort Worth running community.
Marathon training at 7,000 feet elevation: Amanda Hicks shares how she's run 16 consecutive Boston Marathons with a 3:01 PR while living in Flagstaff, Arizona. From Dallas Morning News reporter to elite altitude runner, discover her 70-mile weekly training routine, White Rock Lake heat training origins, nutrition strategies for long runs, and race tactics that helped her nearly break the 3-hour barrier. Plus: Sydney Marathon plans, ultramarathon insights, and advice for qualifying for Boston. Perfect for runners seeking elite marathon training tips and Boston qualification strategies.
Dallas runner Rebecca Roush shares her journey from college injuries to running a 2:57 marathon as a new mom. Discover her low-mileage training approach, cross-training secrets, and how she overcame multiple stress fractures and ACL surgery to achieve consistent marathon PRs. Rebecca reveals why high-mileage training didn't work for her body, how she found her sweet spot at 50 miles per week, and the game-changing role of strength training and cycling. Plus, hear about her dramatic Boston Marathon experience, training with Dallas running groups like Train Pegasus and Completely Sloth, and managing postpartum running with baby George. Essential listening for injury-prone runners, working moms balancing training, and anyone seeking sustainable marathon success
From devastating stress fractures to a 3:14 marathon PR - athletic trainer and mom Amy Lyles shares her incredible running comeback story with host Chris Detzel. After being sidelined for a full year with pubic bone injuries following her first pregnancy, Amy rebuilt from zero with just 5-minute run/walk intervals.
In this episode, Chris and Amy discuss how she:
Key topics: Marathon training for moms, stress fracture recovery, postpartum running challenges, athletic trainer insights, Peloton cross-training, bone density issues in female athletes, Ray's Track Club, Houston Marathon, Boston qualifying times.
Perfect for runners dealing with injury setbacks, new moms returning to running, or anyone seeking inspiration for their comeback journey.
Amy's story proves that with patience, proper coaching, and determination, you can come back stronger than ever.
Guest: Amy Lyles, Athletic Trainer at Plano West High School
Host: Chris Detzel Part of DFW Running Talk - featuring Dallas-Fort Worth running community stories.
In this compelling follow-up episode, Matt Campbell returns to share his evolved approach to racing and the mindset shifts that have transformed his competitive strategy. From his dominant performance at the Velvet Hammer 5K to his ambitious sub-2:30 marathon goals, Matt breaks down how he's learned to race the competition rather than chase times.
Matt opens up about his tactical approach to the Velvet Hammer 5K, where he brought his Completely Sloth teammates and executed a perfectly planned race strategy—breaking the 5K into kilometers with specific mantras for each segment. He reveals how letting go of time fixation and focusing on execution has actually made him faster and more confident on race day.
Beyond racing tactics, Matt dives deep into the challenge of balancing elite-level training with family life and a demanding career. He discusses his "three pillars" philosophy—family, work, and running—and how he's learned to periodize his life while keeping family as the top priority. From skipping Boston Marathon to be present for his family to the reality of 5 AM training sessions, Matt shares honest insights about making sacrifices and finding sustainable balance.
The conversation also covers the often-overlooked importance of strength training for runners, injury prevention through experience, and the mental game that separates good runners from great ones. Matt candidly discusses his upcoming California International Marathon goal, his transition into speed season, and his growing role as both a coach and community builder in the DFW running scene.
Whether you're chasing PRs or simply trying to fit running into a busy life, Matt's perspective on racing smart, training purposefully, and maintaining balance offers valuable lessons for runners at every level.
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Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Michael Mazzara, CEO of Rogue Expeditions, who's revolutionizing how runners think about their sport. After signing up for 20 marathons and only finishing 3 due to constant injuries, Michael discovered there's more to running than chasing PRs and collecting race medals.
From his early days attempting untrained half marathons in Brooklyn to building a successful running travel company in Austin, Michael shares his journey of falling out of love with racing and into love with adventure. He explains why he believes the running community has become too focused on competition and how Rogue Expeditions offers an alternative—immersive cultural travel experiences for runners who want to explore the world's most beautiful trails without the pressure of race day.
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Whether you're burned out on racing, curious about destination running, or simply love hearing about epic adventures, this conversation will challenge how you think about your running journey. Michael's passion for creating meaningful experiences over competitive achievements offers a refreshing perspective on what it means to be a runner.
What happens when a former ski bum who used to hide in pickup trucks to avoid running decides to chase a Boston qualifier in his very first marathon? You get one of the most inspiring transformation stories we've ever featured on DFW Running Talk.
Host Chris Detzel interviews Kevin Hebert, a 46-year-old who went from running just twice a week with Dallas Running Club to breaking 3:10 in his marathon debut. In this captivating conversation, Kevin shares his incredible journey from someone who "would never run a marathon" to crossing the finish line at California International Marathon in a stunning 3:08:58.
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Whether you're a weekend warrior wondering what's possible or a seasoned runner looking for motivation, Kevin's story proves that with the right focus, coaching, and community, extraordinary breakthroughs can happen faster than you think.
This isn't just another running story – it's proof that sometimes the biggest transformations come from the most unexpected places.
In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Duncan Cragg, the legendary store manager at Luke's Locker and a cornerstone of the Dallas-Fort Worth running community for over three decades.
Duncan's story is nothing short of extraordinary. Growing up in apartheid-era South Africa, he discovered his passion for distance running in elementary school when he couldn't make the track team as a sprinter. This setback became the catalyst for an incredible journey that would take him from the high altitude training grounds of South Africa to SMU's track team as a steeplechase specialist.
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Duncan's perspective on running transcends times and technology. He advocates for "parkour-style" natural movement, mindful running without structured intervals, and staying connected to the pure joy of the sport. His family running group has become a safe haven for kids intimidated by traditional track teams and a bridge for parents wanting to share the running experience with their children.
Whether you're a seasoned runner curious about the evolution of the sport, a parent looking to get active with your kids, or someone interested in how running can build community across cultural and generational divides, this episode offers profound insights and inspiration.
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Don't miss Duncan's take on why he's never run past a half marathon, his thoughts on the "Labrador with a tennis ball" mentality of race-focused runners, and how a chance meeting in a South African running store led to a 30-year career helping Dallas runners find their perfect fit.
