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Detection: Challenging Paradigms
DCP Podcast
39 episodes
4 days ago
Have you ever wondered why something is done the way it is, only to find out that this is "just the way it has always been done"? Sometimes it is necessary to challenge the paradigm in which we find ourselves operating to discover a more true understanding of the problem, this change of thinking is referred to as a "paradigm shift". In this podcast, we explore detection and response to define the presuppositions that describe the craft, while also engaging in long form discussion with some of the industry's leading experts to challenge the convention we find ourselves operating within.
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Have you ever wondered why something is done the way it is, only to find out that this is "just the way it has always been done"? Sometimes it is necessary to challenge the paradigm in which we find ourselves operating to discover a more true understanding of the problem, this change of thinking is referred to as a "paradigm shift". In this podcast, we explore detection and response to define the presuppositions that describe the craft, while also engaging in long form discussion with some of the industry's leading experts to challenge the convention we find ourselves operating within.
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Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Special Episode: Jared Atkinson and Justin Kohler at BHUSA 2024

Justin Kohler joins Jared in this special episode to talk about the Hybrid Attack Paths feature update to Bloodhound Enterprise and Bloodhound CE. This is a valuable tool for defenders to understand the hygiene of their identity and access management deployment in a Windows-based enterprise.

Links:

https://github.com/SpecterOps/BloodHound

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1 year ago
23 minutes 37 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 37: Steve Luke and Roman Daszczyszak

The Summiting the Pyramid project by MITRE's Center for Threat Informed Defense (CTID) released in September 2023, allowing for a unified method of "grading" detections for efficacy. Two of the pivotal members of that project join Jared and Luke to talk about how it came to be, and how it can be used to further the detection program of any organization!


Project Links:

  • Initial Release Blog Post
  • Summiting the Pyramid Documentation
  • Get Involved


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1 year ago
1 hour 12 minutes 10 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 36: Chris Thompson

Chris Thompson (@_Mayyhem on X) joins Jared and Luke on this episode of DCP! Chris has led the charge on offensive research into System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM), and shares his insight into this often overlooked aspect of the threat landscape!


Resources:

#sccm on the BloodHoundGang slack workspace: https://bloodhoundgang.herokuapp.com/

https://medium.com/@Mayyhem

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1 year ago
54 minutes 11 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 35: Luke Jennings

DCP is back! New intro, new cover, new host! With Jonny stepping away from the podcast, Luke has moved into the co-host position with Jared. On this first episode, we are joined by Luke Jennings of Push Security to talk all things SaaS.


Links:

https://github.com/pushsecurity/saas-attacks
https://pushsecurity.com/blog/saas-attack-techniques/
https://pushsecurity.com/blog/samljacking-a-poisoned-tenant/
https://pushsecurity.com/blog/nearly-invisible-attack-chain/
https://pushsecurity.com/blog/slack-phishing-for-initial-access/
https://pushsecurity.com/blog/phishing-slack-persistence/

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1 year ago
59 minutes 4 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 34: Ryan Hausknecht (Again)

In this captivating episode, we delve into the world of Azure security with Ryan Hausknecht, Senior Security Researcher at Microsoft. Learn about his groundbreaking projects, the Azure Threat Research Matrix and the AzDetectSuite, and how they assist researchers and defenders in protecting against various attack techniques. We also discuss the complexities of Azure permissions and access control, and explore the nuances of the REST API, PowerShell, Azure CLI, and the Azure Portal. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from an expert and take your Azure security skills to new heights!

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2 years ago
1 hour 31 minutes 27 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 33: Casey Smith (Part 2)

Discover the power of canaries in cybersecurity and learn how to implement them the right way with our special guest, Casey Smith from Thinkst Canary. Casey shares his extensive background in pentesting and defending, as well as the inspiration behind his current projects. This episode is jam-packed with insights on using various security methods, understanding the limitations of InfoSec tools, and exploring telemetry.

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2 years ago
47 minutes 16 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 32: Casey Smith (Part 1)

Discover the power of canaries in cybersecurity and learn how to implement them the right way with our special guest, Casey Smith from Thinkst Canary. Casey shares his extensive background in pentesting and defending, as well as the inspiration behind his current projects. This episode is jam-packed with insights on using various security methods, understanding the limitations of InfoSec tools, and exploring telemetry.

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2 years ago
44 minutes 21 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 31: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard (Part 2)

Maxime Lamothe-Brassard, co-founder of Lima Charlie stops in to talk with Jared and Jonny, and explain how Lima Charlie identified a problem in the industry and seeks to solve it. This is the second half of a full 1h 30m interview.

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2 years ago
45 minutes 11 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 30: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard (Part 1)

Maxime Lamothe-Brassard, co-founder of Lima Charlie stops in to talk with Jared and Jonny, and explain how Lima Charlie identified a problem in the industry and seeks to solve it. This is the first half of a full 1h 30m interview.

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2 years ago
45 minutes 35 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 29: Olaf Hartong (pt. 2)

Two years and 28 episodes later, our first guest: Olaf Hartong of FalconForce rejoins Jared and Jonny in the studio. Olaf, as well as Jared, Jonny, and Luke will all be Blackhat instructors this year - and our collective opinions on Threat Hunting and Detection Engineering have evolved enough over the years to warrant further discussion. We hope you join us!

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2 years ago
1 hour 24 minutes 51 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 28: Hosts

In our first episode of the new year, Jared, Jonny, and Luke discuss the plans for the year, the new DCP: Live project, and some of Jared's latest detection wisdom.

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2 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 43 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 27: Roberto Rodriguez

Roberto Rodriguez (Microsoft Security Intelligence) joins us to talk Threat Hunting and detection. Roberto is a former coworker of Jonny, Jared, and Luke - so it's bound to be a good time!

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3 years ago
1 hour 52 minutes 22 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 26: Jamie Williams (Pt. 2)

We couldn't get enough of our conversation with Jamie Williams, so we brought him back! We re-ATT&CK the Mitre Evaluation topic and much more.   Episode Guide

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3 years ago
1 hour 54 minutes 24 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 25: Mehmet Ergene

In Episode 25 - Mehmet (@Cyb3rMonk on Twitter) chats with Jared and Jonny about several topics, including Process Mining! Episode Guide

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3 years ago
1 hour 33 minutes 17 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 24: Jamie Williams

Jamie Williams of MITRE stops in to chat about the ATT&CK Framework and the MITRE Evals! Episode Guide: 

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3 years ago
1 hour 29 minutes 46 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 23: Gabriel Basset

Gabriel Basset is in the house to talk detection! Episode Guide

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3 years ago
1 hour 30 minutes 5 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 22: Nasreddine Bencherchali

Nasreddine Bencherchali joins us all the way from Algeria to discuss the Detection Engineering process. Episode Guide

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3 years ago
1 hour 28 minutes 7 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 21: Anton Ovrutsky

Anton stops in to talk to the DCP crew about lateral movement, and other detection topics! Episode Guide

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3 years ago
1 hour 46 minutes 50 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 20: Andy Robbins

Andry Robbins stops by to talk with Jared and Jonny, to continue the discussion of detection vs. prevention in the infosec realm - and the accountability that comes with it. Episode Guide (featuring new episode transcripts!)

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3 years ago
1 hour 32 minutes 40 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Episode 19: Robby Winchester

In Episode 9, Robby Winchester of SpecterOps stops by to talk on Jared's favorite topic - Detectionomics (trademark pending). This was our second in-person episode and was a blast to make, we hope you enjoy! Episode Guide

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3 years ago
1 hour 9 minutes 28 seconds

Detection: Challenging Paradigms
Have you ever wondered why something is done the way it is, only to find out that this is "just the way it has always been done"? Sometimes it is necessary to challenge the paradigm in which we find ourselves operating to discover a more true understanding of the problem, this change of thinking is referred to as a "paradigm shift". In this podcast, we explore detection and response to define the presuppositions that describe the craft, while also engaging in long form discussion with some of the industry's leading experts to challenge the convention we find ourselves operating within.