Luke talks to Sheena Lydon, DPM on Design Systems at Wise, about what a Design Program Manager does on a design system team, why designops is an often overlooked piece of the design team puzzle, and how you get into a designops career.

Luke chats to Heydon Pickering, an engineer, designer, author, editor, and consultant, about the unique challenges to being a front-end engineer on design systems. From front-of-the-front-end to web components to standards to the challenges of dealing with people.

Luke chats to Amy Hupe, a content specialist and design systems consultant who has worked on some of the biggest design systems in Europe. They chat about what a content specialist actually does, why they're the essential third pillar of a design system, what makes a good design system content person, and some of the things that are exciting Amy about the future of content design in design systems (hello structured content).

Luke chats to Arielle Benedek, one of the Product Managers on Encore, Spotify's design system, on what a product manager on a design system actually does, what the biggest challenges are, how we need to change what we do, and answers a whole bunch of interesting questions from the live audience.

Luke chats to Geri Reid, lead designer on Newskit, News UK's design system, on what a lead designer actually does, how it's different from product design more generally and the problems facing design systems at the moment.

From how change management is an often misunderstood but essential part of any org change, to how to convince the org to go slow to go fast, to winning over the team with changes in their processes and tooling and why we need DesignOps in the C suite level, we talk to Patrizia Bertini, Associate Director of DesignOps at Babylon all about change management in DesignOps.

From the collaboration between designers and engineers in design systems to the concept of hot potatoing between design and development, to how an attitude shift is needed in the realm of product design with the focus highlighting people, we talk to Dan Mall, Creative Director, CEO and founder of both SuperFriendly and Arcade and design systems extraordinaire about how designers can be better partners.

From the history of design tokens, to how the process of standardization of tokens, to where the future of DesignOps and Tokens are headed, we talk to Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent, design and developer advocate and co-chair of the design tokens W3C community group about the standardization of design tokens.

From design systems from the experience of a developer, to the tools and processes that make design systems easier, to the future of design systems and DesignOrg, we talk to Brad Frost, Web Designer, Speaker, Consultant, Writer, Podcast Host and more about the developer experience of design systems

From what a Chief of Staff does in the design org, to the signs that your company might need a Chief of Staff, to what aspects of a Chief of Staff can be implemented in a small design org, we talk to Tim Gilligan, Chief of Staff at Capital One about the role of a Chief of Staff.

From learning to understand the pain points for designer/developer collaboration, to what can make or break the success of a startup, to where the future of DesignOps is heading, we talk to Jerome de Lafargue, co-founder and CEO at zeroheight about how to build a DesignOps company.

From establishing what signs to look out for, to what to do when deprioritisation happens and how to mitigate it from happening again, we talk to Laura Kennedy, lead designer on design systems at GoodRx about the deprioritisation of design systems

From community-driven design process improvements to the world of plugins and the future of design tools, we talk to Rogie King, Designer Advocate at Figma about the power of community.

From the idea of documentation as a knowledge graph, to optimizing an original model of the web to create a more powerful documentation system, we talk to Chase McCoy from Stripe about the future of design system documentation.

Introducing DesignOps Island Discs, the new podcast from zeroheight, where we talk to the best folks in DesignOps from around the world to find out what it takes to have a successful DesignOps function in your org.

From how a lead differs when you're working with systems, to the role of product management in DS teams, to the need to standardise the things we work on, we talk to Henrique Gusso about how you build an effective Design Systems team.

From building systems that support inclusivity to figuring out how your organisation wants to contribute to the importance of strong principles, we talk to Amy Hupe, content designer and design systems expert, around how you build an effective contribution model for your Design System.

From the importance of situating your design team within your company correctly to why design is still reaching maturity, we talk to Peter Merholz, author, consultant and design leader, on what good org design looks like for your design org.

From proving out your processes to personality types to mining internal talent, for episode three, we dock on the West Coast of the US to talk to Meredith Black, co-founder of DesignOps Assembly and co-author of the DesignOps Handbook, about what makes a good DesignOps hire.

From actually talking to people, to measuring the success of a DesignOps function, to the big learnings you can surface, for the second episode of DesignOps Island Discs, we set sail for Toronto to talk to Harjot Bal, Senior Manager of DesignOps and Design Systems at Appnovation, about running a DesignOps Audit within your org.