
In this conversation, Jonas Singer and Benjamin Rohé discuss the current cybersecurity landscape, emphasizing the real threats posed by organized cybercrime and state-sponsored attacks. They explore the importance of technology in enhancing security, the need for societal resilience, and the role of military and civil defense strategies. The discussion also highlights the necessity for innovation in defense, the responsibilities of corporations in cybersecurity, and lessons learned from global events, particularly the situation in Ukraine.