The recent Charlie Kirk shooting has left many of us wondering how we got here — and how we can move forward in a culture of conflict. Outrage and division are everywhere, but what if we chose a different path?

In this episode, we explore what it takes to build bridges when division feels like the norm. My long time friend and therapist, Jesse Ellis, talks about breaking free from echo chambers, practicing curiosity, and using tools of repair that can transform not only marriages but also communities and culture.

We explore what it looks like to honor our differences without dehumanizing each other, how to choose compassion over contempt, and why building bridges starts with small, intentional choices.

If you’ve been feeling tired of the fighting but hungry for hope, this conversation will remind you that connection is still possible — even in a culture of conflict.