In this episode, Matt Wappett interviews Drs. Richard Chapman and Jessica Schuttler about their recent article, Applying the Self-Determined Learning Model of Instruction to the Psychotherapeutic Context for People with Intellectual/Developmental Disabilities. They talk about how this model was and can be used in clinical practice and the importance of self-determination, as well as the motivations behind their work. A full transcript is available here in English and in Spanish.  Links mention in this episode include: selfdetermination.ku.edu tinyurl.com\SDMPower Richard Chapman is the associate director for disability leadership at the partnership for people with disabilities at Virginia Commonwealth University. He completed a postdoctoral research Fellowship at the University of Kansas in Lawrence Kansas studying self-determination intervention and assessment. He considers himself a disability studies scholar. He conducts research in the area of self-determination. He is a licensed mental health counselor in the state of Florida. He is also a certified rehabilitation counselor. He has a bachelors degree, master’s degree, and a PhD all from the University of South Florida in beautiful Tampa Florida. He currently lives in Richmond Virginia. Jessica Schuttler is a child psychologist and assistant professor at the University of Kansas Medical Center in the Division of Developmental-Behavioral Pediatrics. She is also the Training Director for the Kansas Leadership Education in Neurodevelopmental Disabilities (LEND) program. She works with children, youth and young adults to provide therapy and interdisciplinary developmental evaluations.