Dr. Robert “Navy Bob” Roncska joins DBA Chronicles totranslate high-stakes military leadership lessons into every day, evidence-based practices for people-first leaders. From commanding nuclear-powered submarines (and carrying the nuclear football) to leading high-reliability teams in healthcare, Navy Bob explains why lead with loveis not soft — it’s strategic. We bridge lived experience and scholarship (Leader–Member Exchange / LMX), discuss measurable indicators of relationship-based leadership, and walk through concrete rituals, and accountability practices that leaders can apply starting tomorrow.

Bonus: Dr. Katie Gottsch from the Leading with Love teamjoins us in studio and shares insights throughout the episode.

Highlights & practical value

Real stories from submarine command that reveal how care + accountability turn around performance.

Concrete, research-backed ways to measure leader–member exchange (LMX) and use those signals for promotion, coaching, and remediation.

Ready-to-use micro-rituals (daily/weekly) to build psychological safety and mutual accountability.

Key takeaways

• Lead with love = intentional care + clear accountability- That combo produces trust, ownership, and safer teams
• Relationships are measurable-Use LMX indicators to make people decisions less subjective and more fair
• Small rituals compound -Short, consistent behaviors beat intermittent grand programs when changing culture

Notable quotes

• “Lead with love — it’s not soft, it’s the engine of reliability.”
• “When people are afraid of disappointing their shipmates, not the captain, culture changes.”
• “Trustworthiness is earned in the small choices you make every day.”

Who should listen
Leaders and aspiring leaders, HR and people-ops professionals, team coaches, and anyone who wants practical, research-grounded tools to improve trust,retention, and team performance.

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