Ever left a therapy session feeling hopeless, like you’re the problem, and no one’s really telling you how to change it?

In this episode, Rachel and Jonathan open up about their frustrations with traditional talk therapy and the feeling that insight alone often isn’t enough to truly heal. What unfolds is a powerful conversation about two very different perspectives on trauma: Rachel speaks from the emotional body - the felt experience of pain, abandonment, and healing through embracing the stories and identities. Jonathan comes from the angle of false identities - how our subconscious programming keeps us stuck in cycles we never chose and how to rewire our subconscious to recognize the "false" identities and choose differently.

Their views don’t always align, and that’s the point. This episode unpacks the tension between feeling your way through pain and reframing the stories that define you. It’s honest, challenging, and yes, maybe even a little polarizing.

If you’ve ever wondered why therapy hasn’t fully helped or what else might be out there, this one’s for you.

Chapters:

(00:00) – Opening Reflection

(00:47) – Why Talk Therapy Can Fall Short

(01:26) – The "Low Vibe" Debate

(02:48) – Parent Love or Parent Programming?

(04:15) – The Danger of Over-Identifying with the Why

(06:45) – Validation vs. Reframing

(11:00) – Subconscious Programming and Identity

(18:00) – Language Matters: Abandoned vs. Left

(23:00) – Owning the Journey