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Complementary
Anthony Hobday, Katie Langerman
63 episodes
1 day ago
A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.
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A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.
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Complementary
57: The Gap Between Design and Execution with Alex Krasikov

Anthony and Katie are joined by design engineer Alex Krasikov to discuss .. you guessed it, design engineering.


Alex Krasikov: https://x.com/alex_krasikau


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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2 days ago
43 minutes 51 seconds

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56: Navigation

Anthony and Katie discuss navigation patterns.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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2 weeks ago
51 minutes 47 seconds

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55: Design is Decision Making

Anthony and Katie define the process of decision making as it relates to design.


Anthony's post: https://x.com/hobdaydesign/status/1904449738084094138


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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1 month ago
40 minutes 34 seconds

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54: Design vs. Development

Anthony and Katie discuss some differences and similarities between design and development.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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1 month ago
45 minutes 24 seconds

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53: Deep Dive on the Conceptual Model Layer with Jamie Mill

Anthony and Katie are joined by Jamie Mill to discuss his post on the elements of product design.


Jamie Mill: https://jamiemill.com/


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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2 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes 58 seconds

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52: Visual Design Techniques We Love

Anthony and Katie each pick their top 3 most loved design techniques in the spirit of Valentine's Day.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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2 months ago
40 minutes 40 seconds

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51: Thoughts on the book Do Design: Why beauty is the key to everything by Alan Moore

Anthony and Katie discuss the book Do Design: Why Beauty is the Key to Everything by Alan Moore.


Do Design: https://thedobook.co/products/do-design-why-beauty-is-key-to-everything?Format=Paperback

Anthony's list of short design books: https://www.anthonyhobday.com/blog/20230101.html

Dan Luu: Willingness to look stupid


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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3 months ago
42 minutes 17 seconds

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50: Starting from Scratch vs. Improving Existing Design

Anthony and Katie discuss what it takes to start designing something from scratch compared to working on an existing product, and the upsides/downsides of both.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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3 months ago
54 minutes 14 seconds

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49: Design Folklore with Guy Segal

Katie, Anthony and special guest Guy discuss design folklore: what it is, where it might come from, and how to best use it in your design practices.


Guy Segal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guysegal


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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4 months ago
52 minutes 13 seconds

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48: Ghosts of Software Past, Present and Future

Anthony and Katie bring on the holiday vibes by discussing the past, present and future of software design. Bah humbug!


New design systems podcast Katie mentioned: On Theme


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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4 months ago
35 minutes 43 seconds

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47: People We Admire

Designers and developers that have influenced us.


The folks we mentioned:


Stephanie Eckles

Andy Bell

Brad Frost

Elizabeth Goodspeed

Frank Chimero

David Pye


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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4 months ago
45 minutes 14 seconds

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46: Design for Developers with Nate Butler

What does it really mean to design for developers? Should you cater to power users or beginners? Anthony, Katie and Nate discuss this (and more) with lots of spicy takes and speculation.


Nate Butler: https://nate.cv/


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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5 months ago
59 minutes 56 seconds

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45: Constraints

What are the different kinds of constraints and how do they impact design? Anthony and Katie break it down into several types of constraints including: arbitrary, technical, principled, and convenient.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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5 months ago
43 minutes 36 seconds

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44: How to be a more strategic designer with Jared Spool

Jared Spool joins Anthony and Katie to discuss what it means to be a strategic designer. We cover what strategy means, different leadership styles, and the difference between outcomes vs outputs.


Find Jared Spool on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmspool/


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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6 months ago
58 minutes 27 seconds

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43: Design for Customization

What's the difference between customization and personalization in interface design? Anthony and Katie discuss this along with the benefits/downsides of designing for customization.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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6 months ago
40 minutes 51 seconds

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42: Performative Good Design

It's a ranty one folks. What is performative design, and why does it exist?


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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7 months ago
45 minutes 8 seconds

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41: Elegance vs. Extravagance

Anthony shares a quote to define elegance vs. extravagance as "do a lot with a little vs. a lot with a lot". Katie and Anthony discuss how this relates to interface design and the impact it has on interaction design and product longevity.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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8 months ago
43 minutes 47 seconds

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40: Should Designers Code?

How might designers learning how to code impact interface design? Enjoy this extremely reasonable conversation between Katie and Anthony.


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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8 months ago
42 minutes 58 seconds

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39: Possible Futures for AI in Interface Design with Maggie Appleton

Anthony, Katie and special guest Maggie Appleton speculate about how AI could impact interface design in the future.


The five possible futures we discussed:


  1. AI replaces designers and developers completely

  2. AI produces a rough draft, a designer “tidies it up”

  3. AI builds the interface out of supplied components and a description of how the interface works

  4. AI produces content/components on demand, designers change it to suit, then put the interface together

  5. Designers ask AI focused questions to get inspiration


You can find Maggie on Twitter or on the web at https://maggieappleton.com/


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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8 months ago
56 minutes 27 seconds

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38: Visual Design in Design Systems with Jeremy Elder

Anthony, Katie and special guest Jeremy Elder chat about the visual design aspect of design systems.


Find Jeremy on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyelder

GitLab's papercuts site: https://papercuts.gitlab.com/


Hosts:

Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠

Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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9 months ago
56 minutes 27 seconds

Complementary
A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.