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Colour-Full Podcast
Stacy Jayne & Sena Zungu
33 episodes
1 week ago
Meet Sena and Stacy; inter-generational, inter-racial besties on a mission to make uncomfortable conversations about race, privilege and identity mainstream. Expect challenging perspectives, thought-provoking questions, laughs, kiki moments and chats over red-painted nails. Join us as we unpack the personal stories that shaped us and the role that empathetic curiosity plays in shaping our future.
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Meet Sena and Stacy; inter-generational, inter-racial besties on a mission to make uncomfortable conversations about race, privilege and identity mainstream. Expect challenging perspectives, thought-provoking questions, laughs, kiki moments and chats over red-painted nails. Join us as we unpack the personal stories that shaped us and the role that empathetic curiosity plays in shaping our future.
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Colour-Full Podcast
The Stories Racism Wrote with Khaya Dlanga

Khaya Dlanga joins us to talk about rewriting the narrative; who gets seen, heard and remembered.

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2 weeks ago
54 minutes 48 seconds

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Remembering What we Tried to Forget with Koleka Putuma

When the world wants you to forget, remembering becomes rebellion. Koleka Putuma talks poetry, power and reclaiming the stories we've buried.

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4 weeks ago
45 minutes 52 seconds

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Black, Coloured, Queer and in Love

October being Pride month, we speak with the first queer black Miss South Africa contestant, Sihle Gcilitshana and radio and host personality Carla Mackenzie about being black, culturally coloured and in love.

Thank you to Kantar's Pride Employee Resource Group for sponsoring this episode.

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1 month ago
46 minutes 36 seconds

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When History Writes Your Paycheck: Black Tax with Mapalo Makhu

In this episode, we explore black tax, buying new cars, breaking cycles and building wealth.

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1 month ago
45 minutes 45 seconds

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Behind the Puppet with Conrad Koch

The personal is the political as Conrad Koch (side kick to SA's famous political puppet, Chester Missing) unpacks the repercussions of taking on racism as a white comedian.

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2 months ago
50 minutes 47 seconds

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Unpacking whiteness and the backpack of privilege with Sydelle Willow Smith

In this special episode, our strategist, Sarah, joins Stacy in conversation with Sydelle Willow Smith, co-founder of Sunshine Cinema and co-creator of the Un/Settled documentary, to unpack belonging, whiteness and the weight of privilege.

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3 months ago
56 minutes 9 seconds

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Degrees, addiction, and how class can’t protect you from racism with JamJam the Comedian

We sit down with award-winning comedian Khanyisa JamJam to chat about literally everything! From South Africa's most chaotic politicians to the humbling experience of battling addiction. From the duty that comes with privilege to the racism of the Cape Town club scene. And there are tons of laughs in there, too. Obviously!

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3 months ago
52 minutes 26 seconds

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The Art of Activism with Zolani Mahola

We sit down with Zolani Mahola as she reflects on her life through art and activism, the deep healing we need as a nation, and what it means to shape a hopeful collective story.

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3 months ago
42 minutes

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Can anybody be a Hibirist? The Golden Thread to Blackness with Donald Mokgale

Hibiri! Sidl’ ubusha bethu in the meantime.Stacy and Sena sit down with the co-ideator of the Hibirism philosophy, Donald Mogkale, for this challenging and hilarious discussion on the cultural nuances of Blackness.

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4 months ago
43 minutes 30 seconds

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Education as Oppression & Liberation with Courtney Koopman and Katy Mthethwa

It’s Youth Day, and we’re talking about the power of education as a tool for both oppression and liberation. Because school is not just about reading and writing; it’s about who gets access, whose language is allowed in the classroom and who gets to feel like they belong.

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5 months ago
54 minutes 5 seconds

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Extend your table with Irfaan Mangera

We sit down with We The People's head of education and long-time activist, Irfaan Mangera, to discuss youth activism, the Group Areas Act, taking responsibility in your own spaces, and acting where you are.

Chapters:

0:00- 15:34 Memory as a weapon, the devastation of Group Areas Act

15:35-17:30 Inter-generational trauma

17:31-26:20 Imposed racial hierarchies in activist work

26:21- 36:40 We the People and Constitutional literacy

36:41- 41:22 Bring shame back, misinformation

41:23-51:10 Learning from history, problem solve

51:11-59:43 Build a longer table, not higher walls

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5 months ago
59 minutes 43 seconds

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Your Voice Matters with Amonge Sinxoto

In this episode, Stacy and Sena sit down with author, activist, and co-founder of Blackboard Africa, Amonge Sinxoto, to talk about what it means to be young, Black, and building impact in the world - online and offline.

We spoke about Amonge's anti-racism activism as a school-going child, and how those early moments shaped her drive to use her voice for good. She unpacks the joys and theheaviness of visibility — and the unspoken burden of Black excellence, wher Black and Brown youth often feel they must be exceptional just to be seen as enough.

We also speak about her children’s book, My Big Name, which centres identity and reclamation for young readers — and her journey building Blackboard Africa into a platform for youth empowerment and storytelling.

Amonge shares her views on the role of social media in activism and what it means to move a social media movement into sustainable real-world impact,especially in an anti-DEI climate.

0:00-06:00 Get to know Amonge06:01-09:20 Activism journey and racism at school09:21-15:14 Writing My Big Name15:15-19:32 Identity at the core of defining leadership19:33-25:30 Social media as a tool and a cop-out for activism25:31-30:49 Activism fatigue and motivation in community

30:50-35:28 Looking back on your activism with grace
35:29-37:43 Different voices reach different people
37:44-43:03 Black Girl Magic is in the little things
43:04-49:56 TikTok trends as conversation starters

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5 months ago
50 minutes 36 seconds

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Freedom and the Law with Lwando Xaso

In this powerful and timely episode, Sena and Stacy sit down with renowned constitutional lawyer and founder of Including Society, Lwando Xaso, for a deep, clear-eyed exploration of the systems that have shaped — and continue to shape — South Africa.

Timed to fall in line with South Africa’s Freedom Day, this conversation reflects on the significance of democracy, constitutionalism, and unfinished reconciliation. While we often talk about racial systems and systemic racism, this episode zooms in specifically on the legal architecture that allowed racial segregation to thrive — and how its legacy lingers today through massive inequality, where white South Africans remain disproportionately empowered.

Lwando also shares her deeply personal journey: from clerking at the Constitutional Court to founding Including Society, a platform dedicated to building a more inclusive South Africa through civic engagement, education, and collective action.

This Freedom Day, as we celebrate the hard-won victories of the past, we also confront the realities of the present, and look towards a future where freedom is truly equitable.


00.00 - 06:07 Intro's and Lwando's journey to law

06:08 - 14:28 What we mean when we say systemic

14.29 - 22:34 The cruelty of citizenship

22:35 - 28:29 Parliamentary sovereignty, constitutional democracy

28.30 - 34.50 Reverse racism, the law and equality

34.50 - 39:19 The personal is political

39:20 - 47:32 Are we really free?


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6 months ago
47 minutes 32 seconds

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Howzit - With Amahle Jaxa

If you’re chronically online, then you’ve probably come across the woman with the signature greeting: “Howzit guys…” and a rundown of what’s going on in the country (and the world) in a way that’s actually understandable.


In this episode, Sena and Stacy sit down with Amahle-Imvelo Jaxa, the rising TikTok current affairs creator, commentator, and all-around cultural force. We unpack her journey from growing up in the Eastern Cape to starting up the events giant Until Until, and her unique knack for turning complicated political moments into accessible, humorous, and insightful content.


We talk about the emotional toll of showing up online, the dangers of misinformation, the apartheid history of censorship, and why media literacy and accessibility are more critical than ever. We also dive into her experience as a young Black entrepreneur creating safe spaces in Johannesburg’s iconic groove culture, and what it means to center black joy.


Oh, and there are plenty of laughs along the way. Because if you’re going to talk about civic education, anti-racism, and political chaos, you might as well do it in Full Colour.


Chapters:

0:00-4:50 - Red nails and laughs

04:51-6:22 - Journey to the city of gold

06:23-14:40 - “we just wanted to throw a party”

14:41-17:49 - Diversity at parties

17:50-31:08 - Politics is low key hilarious 

31:09-41:27 - Creating difficult content on social media 

41:28-49:19 - Racist stories we get over too quickly

49:20-55:34 Handling ops

55:35-end - Game: real or fake?


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7 months ago
58 minutes 30 seconds

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The Politics of Beauty

In this episode, Tšhegofatšo Ndabane and Sinothile Kubu join Sena and Stacy for a candid talk on the politics of beauty and how it shapes the experiences of Black women. Tšhegofatšo shares her research on how young Black women perceive themselves, the deep influence of racism, and how beauty standards continue to be shaped by colonial narratives. Sinothile opens up about her personal journey toward embracing authenticity, the challenges of unlearning internalised biases, and how she navigates the pressures of motherhood while resisting the impulse to police her daughter’s appearance.


Together, they dive into the intergenerational trauma of beauty standards, the complex process of unlearning, and the radical act of black women reclaiming femininity on their own terms.


Chapters:


0:00-07:14 Intros and red nails 

07:15-12:42 Beauty is skin deep 

12:43-18:39 Constructs of black beauty 

18:40-32:48 Our mothers and policing bodies

32:50-38:44 Hyper-sexualisation of black women’s bodies

38:50-40:48 #blackgirlmagic #melaninpoppin 

41:00-44:00 Unlearning 

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7 months ago
44 minutes 19 seconds

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Bad African with Celine Tshika

In this episode, Stacy and Sena have one of the most chaotically hilarious interviews with the one and only Céline Tshika, interrogating what it truly means to be a Bad African. In between self-deprecatingly poking fun at themselves for the things they're good at being bad at, they unpacked the messy, layered, and oh-so-nuanced reality of Blackness and Africanness. 

From growing up in SA in a Congolese household to navigating microaggressions in the arts, Céline takes us through the complexities of identity, heritage, and pushing back against respectability politics. 

She gets into the colonial history of the Congo and how it’s playing out in today’s instability in the region. Between the serious and the unserious, there are many thought-provoking perspectives and laugh-out-loud moments.  This episode is a journey through interrogating race, privilege, and the joy of embracing every shade of who you are.


Chapters

00.00 - 06:00 "Good at being bad", red nails

06:00 - 18:25 A Congolese African woman in SA, Colonisation 

18:25 - 23:00 The career pivot

23:11 - 37:30 Being black in a white private school, dating

37:30 - 39:10 Learning about white validation 

39:10 - 48:36 Public reactions to satirical comedy

48:40 - 52:20 When white women jump on the "Karen" bandwagon

52:20 - 57:35 Playing a game "how an African parent would react"

57:35 - 59:32 Wrap up 


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7 months ago
59 minutes 32 seconds

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Lesego Tlhabi (aka Coconut Kelz) in Paris

In this episode of Colour-Full, Sena and Stacy sit down with Lesego Tlhabi, the brilliant mind behind Coconut Kelz, for a conversation that felt like a catch-up among besties. We laugh the whole way through while unpacking race, privilege, dating, fashion, and what the future looks like for Lesego beyond satire.

We spoke about her lived experiences and how they shaped the creation of Coconut Kelz, highlighting how the personal is always political. We chat about everything from navigating microaggressions in South Africa and Europe to the realities of interracial friendships and relationships.

Lesego also delves into her newfound experience of being in corporate Europe - sharing the challenges, surprises, and lessons she’s picking up along the way. And of course, we get into fashion and who she’d put on the cover if she ever got to style Vogue.

This episode is full of wit, insight, and plenty of Woolies water-level crispness. Talk about living in Full Colour!


Chapters:

00:00 Lesego paints her nails and the birth of Coconut Kelz 

07:26 Assimilation and respectability politics 

09:05 There’s no one way to be black 

14:25 Names in the spirit of Coconut Kelz

20:46 Online spaces as authentic reflections of real life 

25:24 Dating in Paris 

28:27 The audacity of South African men 

30:58 Interracial dating as a black woman 

34:58 Career pivoting 

41:21 Multiculturalism in corporate space 

43:22 Racism in Paris and beyond 

47:25 Who would Lesego put on the cover of Vogue?

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8 months ago
51 minutes 47 seconds

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Love is in the air with Wandile and Jessica Molebatsi

It’s the month of love, and in this episode, Sena and Stacy sit down with the Molebatsis. Jessica, a celebrated South African fashion designer, and Wandile, a renowned actor and producer, join us for a candid conversation about love, identity, and life in the public eye as an interracial couple.

They share their journey of connection and acceptance, including the deeply personal way Jessica first met Wandile’s family—when he was recovering from a life-altering accident. As an interracial couple in a country still healing from its divided past, they reflect on South Africa’s painful history, the apartheid-era laws that once prohibited relationships like theirs, and the progress still needed to build true inclusivity.

Jessica and Wandile also discuss handling public perceptions, the intersection of their personal and professional lives, and how they use their platforms to advocate for unity, creativity, and authenticity. At the core of their journey is a commitment to love—unwavering, unapologetic, and inspiring.


Chapters:

0:00 Intro’s, Jessica paints Wandile’s nails red

08:20 How we met, our family dynamics 

15:35 “Our ancestors are so perplexed, this is Hendrik Verwoerd’s worst nightmare”

22:00 How white and black love is portrayed in the media

29:38 Portraying culture in the fashion industry 

37:05 Why can’t I be anti-racist and love a white person?

43:30 Why we need to look behind the curtain 

47:14 The rainbow nation and white privilege

53:40 “The richest man in SA’s child cannot go to school and be taught in their home language”

54:07 Privilege and shame 

01:01:40 Holding space for ignorance and cultural diplomacy 

01:06:09 We have to be dramatic and intentional.

01:08:25 Closing, next guest, Happy Valentines Day! 


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8 months ago
1 hour 11 minutes 42 seconds

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Beyond the Headlines with Dan Corder

In this episode of Colour-Full, Stacy and Sena are joined in studio by South Africa's very own beanie aficianado, Dan Corder. Known for his bold voice in South African media and his TikTok videos, Dan takes us on a journey beyond the headlines to unpack the role of media in shaping conversations that matter.

We dive deep into the role of media in addressing systemic inequalities, how he balances knowing when to engage in critical dialogues and when to step back and the importance of understanding South Africa's complex history. Dan also reflects on his university days, his involvement in youth-led protests like #FeesMustFall, and how those formative years shaped his perspective on activism and justice.

In true Colour-Full style, we peel back the layers to explore Dan’s personal journey—his triumphs, challenges, and everything “beyond the beanie.” From his thoughts on inequality to his reflections on navigating a polarised world, Dan shares how he lives life in full colour.

Chapters

00:00 – Dan paints his nails red, discusses bizarre thing he asked a guest to do

06:30 – The radical difference between Cape Town and the rest of South Africa

11:00 – The role of media in highlighting structural racism in our country

24:00 – The journey of “woke-ness”

27:20 – “Pale males” leaving South Africa for the motherland

31:09 – White Economic Empowerment and how white people got wealthy

37:22 – The significance of Luister

46:28 – Protest and the link with systemic failure

50:44 – The personal is the political; conversations that challenge injustice

55:38 – Musings about a fabulous future guest (stay tuned!)

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9 months ago
57 minutes 55 seconds

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Reflections

We wrap up our first season of Colour-Full with a look back at the year that was, reflecting on all the highs and lows. Sena and Stacy respond to some of the questions and feedback received from listeners and social media followers. They explain the meaning behind the podcast's name, the intentional use of humor in addressing a serious topic, and the challenges they face in maintaining the platform. They also tackle criticism, the importance of audience engagement, and highlight impactful episodes that resonated with listeners. The conversation emphasises the need for ongoing dialogue about race and inclusion, while also sharing personal anecdotes and lessons learned throughout their personal journeys on the show.

Chapters

00:00 - Reflecting on Season One

02:28 - The Meaning Behind 'Colour-Full’

04:30 - Why we chose a podcast as a platform for this conversation

08:00 - Stacy and Sena’s relationship

10:10 - The Intentionality of Humour in Serious Topics

13:15 - Addressing Criticism and Skepticism

19:10 - The Challenges of Maintaining this Podcast

23:45 - Engaging the Audience for Change

26:15 - Most Impactful Episodes and Lessons Learned

28:45 - Rapid Fire Questions and Fun Moments from 2024


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11 months ago
36 minutes 11 seconds

Colour-Full Podcast
Meet Sena and Stacy; inter-generational, inter-racial besties on a mission to make uncomfortable conversations about race, privilege and identity mainstream. Expect challenging perspectives, thought-provoking questions, laughs, kiki moments and chats over red-painted nails. Join us as we unpack the personal stories that shaped us and the role that empathetic curiosity plays in shaping our future.