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Cloud Packets and Perimeters
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37 episodes
1 week ago
A podcast where Cybersecurity and Cloud Networking Converge. We are securing the cloud, One Packet at a Time. Brought to you by NetJoints.com— your source for cloud networking and security insights. netJoints is the Intersection of Packets and Protection.
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A podcast where Cybersecurity and Cloud Networking Converge. We are securing the cloud, One Packet at a Time. Brought to you by NetJoints.com— your source for cloud networking and security insights. netJoints is the Intersection of Packets and Protection.
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Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP37 | Aviatrix Multicloud and Multicluster Networking and Security for Kubernetes

Main Themes:

  • The rise of multicloud 2.0: Organizations are moving beyond a single primary cloud and embracing a true multicloud strategy to leverage best-of-breed services from different providers.
  • Kubernetes networking and security challenges: Multicloud Kubernetes deployments face issues with IP address exhaustion, overlapping IPs, egress security, and high-bandwidth secure inter-cluster connectivity.
  • Aviatrix solutions for multicloud Kubernetes: Aviatrix offers a controller-based, intent-based networking and security platform that addresses these challenges with dynamic segmentation, secure egress, and hybrid connectivity.

Key Ideas and Facts:

Multicloud 2.0:

  • Shifting landscape: The cloud landscape has evolved significantly in the 18 years since AWS launched. Organizations now have access to hyperscalers, regional clouds, and specialized clouds.
  • True multicloud strategy: Organizations are adopting a true multicloud strategy to leverage the unique strengths of different cloud providers and enable developers to build better applications and services.
  • Cloud 2.0: Many organizations are calling this shift "Cloud 2.0," driven by the need for distributed data, models, and applications, especially with the rise of GenAI and AI/ML applications.

Kubernetes Networking and Security Challenges:

  • IP address exhaustion: Kubernetes is "IP hungry," leading to IP address exhaustion and challenges with overlapping IPs, especially in large deployments with thousands of VPCs.
  • Egress security: Millions of VPCs have weak or non-existent egress security, posing a significant risk to sensitive data.
  • Inter-cluster connectivity: Establishing high-bandwidth, secure connectivity between Kubernetes clusters across different clouds and on-premises environments is complex and challenging.

Aviatrix Solutions:

  • Controller-based, intent-based networking: Aviatrix provides a centralized multicloud controller and uses intent-based policies to dynamically segment and secure traffic across Kubernetes clusters, regardless of the underlying IP addresses.
  • Secure egress: Aviatrix replaces traditional NAT gateways with secure Aviatrix gateways, offering embedded NAT, visibility, and granular egress security policies based on Kubernetes resources.
  • Dynamic scaling: Aviatrix automatically discovers and incorporates new Kubernetes resources into security policies as clusters scale up or down, eliminating manual configuration and ensuring consistent security.
  • Hybrid connectivity: Aviatrix facilitates secure connectivity between cloud Kubernetes clusters and on-premises environments, including edge locations, enabling hybrid deployments for AI/ML and other workloads.

Customer Success:

  • Large-scale deployments: Aviatrix has customers with thousands of island VPCs and overlapping IP spaces, successfully using its platform to manage their multicloud Kubernetes environments.
  • Operational efficiency: Aviatrix simplifies operations with its controller-based approach, dynamic policy updates, and world-class SRE team handling upgrades and troubleshooting.

Key Quotes:

  • Anirban Sengupta (Aviatrix): "Today every organization should embrace multicloud. That's the best way to get ahead with their competitors and help their developers."
  • Anirban Sengupta (Aviatrix): "Networking and security should be top of mind... without connectivity and without security, you really can't have a multicloud strategy."
  • Anirban Sengupta (Aviatrix): "Kubernetes is very IP hungry. There is exhaustion, IP address exhaustion is the key."


Call to Action:

Organizations looking to embrace a true multicloud strategy and overcome the networking and security challenges of Kubernetes should consider Aviatrix's controller-based platform. Contact Aviatrix for a demo and learn how their solutions can help you achieve secure and efficient multicloud Kubernetes deployments.

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12 months ago
11 minutes 25 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP36 | Secure Cloud Networking with Asif Masood from TrueValue

How to achieve network simplicity in Google Cloud (GCP) and the importance of customer-centric relationship.”

Unscripted chat with Sr Manager of Application Development Asif Masood


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2 years ago
33 minutes 11 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP35 | Simplify Application Disaster Recovery In Cloud With Aviatrix | With Aviatrix Principal Cloud Architects John Smoker and Dennis Hagens

Disaster recovery , Disaster avoidance or in general Business Continuity are a critical design consideration for any business critical application. 

In this short podcast, Dennis Hagens and John Smoker demonstrate how Aviatrix multi-cloud network backbone simplify your application disaster recovery b/w regions of single cloud or even to a second cloud with a flip of a button. 

They also demonstrate how this standardize design allows for application reachability in cloud using the infrastructure of second cloud in case of a failure.

A powerful capability for all type of flows : 

  • Ingress from internet
  • Cloud to cloud 
  • Region to region and
  • Hybrid b/w cloud and on-prem.

All done through code in matter of seconds.



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2 years ago
32 minutes 3 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP34 | Cloud Cost Management | Increase Cloud ROI | Enhance Application Security

Experience your firewall working for you, not the other way around. Aviatrix integrate and works with Security vendor such as Palo Alto Networks, Check Point, Fortinet, Cisco, F5 etc. Aviatrix business value is to simplify the way organizations enhance their public cloud security posture (Azure, GCP, AWS, OCI, etc.) while reducing the overall cost. In this candid podcata you'll find out how Aviatrix FireNet helps you to simply consume virtual firewall, with a proven recipe adopted by hundreds of customers in the cloud. 


Now, you can simplify security by leaving the heavy lifting to Aviatrix.


The YouTube version is available here

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3 years ago
46 minutes 57 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP33 | Trillions of Dollars moving to the cloud and businesses leveraging multiple-clouds | Advice and tips from the most elite AWS Blackbelts Evgeny Vaganov & Abdul Rahim

Podcast 33 - “

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has ~52 years of combined experience at

and have worked with thousands of customers moving to cloud.

In episode 33, we asked them to share their cloud journey, lessons learned and advice for customers.

Some key points:

- Many cloud deployment start as non mission critical, in a single cloud and organically grew into a giant mess that is hard to untangle, with several design flaws, lack of visibility, security holes and operational/governance nightmares.

- CSP by design focus less on networking features as they have to prioritize durability, performance availability and ensure environment is secure. Pace of innovation is slow as they try to recreate 30 years worth of capabilities in a cloud way, which will take time.

-Every single customer they met were either multi-cloud already or looking to extend in other clouds. Single CSP alone CANNOT meet requirements of enterprises.

-Key points they love about Aviatrix is "end to end focus b.w apps and users"

-Aviatrix has put the focus and control back on networking and security and Aviatrix ACE (

) is the most beautiful opportunity. Think CCIE in 1995 but much bigger in terms of impact as cloud transformation will be 10x bigger and 100x faster. [Note: Rahim has 3 X CCIE's)

-Industry clouds becoming more prominent with many vendors offering "Specialty as a service -SaaS" on top of multiple CSPs infra which is like a "utility" model. Think Splunk, snowflake, SAP HANA, Netflix all becoming Over the Top [OTT} providers over multiple CSPs. It will become more common trend and many CSPs may look to acquire certain businesses just for their vertical expertise as well. [like Oracle/Cerner and Goldman announcing their own financial cloud].

-Aviatrix is a perfect fit for industry clouds.... a cookie cutter approach to offer their software in a secure, consistent manner on top of any cloud and intelligently connecting to end consumers. Revenue is directly proportional to how fast they onboard customers and expand in a consistent manner.

Both Evgeny and Rahim offered 1:1 consulting session for any customers looking for advice. Reach out directly or contact Aviatrix

.

Podcast link here. Hope you will enjoy.

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3 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 22 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP32 | Don't forget the "Ops" in building your "DevOps" world - with Aviatrix DevOps gurus Dennis Hagens and John Smoker

Another exciting episode with DevOps/ IaC/ Terraform Gurus John Smoker Dennis Hagens where we talked about importance of Ops specifically visibility, troubleshooting and security when building your application delivery infrastructure.

EP29 – Don’t forget the “Ops” in building your “DevOps” world

Some key learnings:

- Key goal of DevOps and IaC is to “push code to production faster and do it in a scalable, stable way", however the last thing that always gets automated is the network, so even though a lot of organizations might feel that they've got things under control with automation, It may not necessarily be true from network, security and Ops/visibility perspective.

- Aviatrix  platform automates several key functions without even writing a single line of code, so its not just about infrastructure as a code, but to write less code to begin with. Things such as "setting up peering, making your network behave dynamic in regards to route updates, failover etc are hard problems to solve that are not a given in cloud world.

- Aviatrix allows you to write our terraform codes on a much more abstract level making it more simpler, repeatable across clouds and intent based. BENEFIT: Reduces the amount of code and thus increases the maintainability  tremendously.

-There is a split between dev and ops - Building and automating build time is relatively easy, but the ops part 100 X more difficult to to automate and that's where Aviatrix platform really shines.

BENEFIT: Remove distractions around ops, troubleshooting, visibility away from DevOps allowing them to focus on agility and application modernization that is  directly tied to revenue.

-Aviatrix gets seamlessly inserted into your existing build process without upsetting the automation by inserting the Aviatrix TF provider code and gives instant benefit of security and visibility with self-service  option for application teams to know how their apps are behaving and to fix performance issues.

-The cost of time you are spending on troubleshooting issues or addressing security concerns is equal to the time You're NOT spending improving your build or application side of things impacting your revenue/competitive advantage.

- Its never too early or too late to start with Aviatrix. The sooner the better though as it allows you to set the foundations correct and ensure you have simple, consistent Architecture with no compromise to security and visibility allowing you to operate at the speed of business opportunities [think tapping new services in a different CSP, merger and acquisitions scenarious, cost etc.]

- Don't be dependent on that one guy that wins the lottery.  Build our environment that is simple, secure, repeatable and but can easily be managed by larger operations team.

Hope you will enjoy.

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3 years ago
36 minutes 39 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP31 | How Aviatrix provided the eureka moment for healthcare leader | Fresenius Healthcare | Control Cloud deployment and Secure critical data | chat with lead cloud architect Maximilian Schmidt

Do you know " More than half of dialysis machines used worldwide are made by Fresenius Medical Care" ?

#fresenius is a global healthcare that provides products and services for dialysis, hospital management and do R&D to pioneer therapy and care of critically and chronically ill patients.

I admire and have huge respect for their mission as well: "To deliver superior care that improves the quality of life of every patient, every day, setting the standard by which others in the healthcare industry are judged"

In episode 32 of Lets talk cloud networking podcast, we got together with Maximilian Schmidt who played a pivotal role in Fresenius cloud architecture and how Aviatrix provided the eureka moment to massively help them take  control of their cloud deployment and secure critical data!!

Some key points:

- Move to cloud is a business decision and infrastructure teams must quickly ramp up to support the business. Check out Aviatrix ACE trainings. https://aviatrix.com/ace/

-Securing clinical trials and patient data is absolutely vital for healthcare business and to satisfy audit/compliance requirements. Need evidential proof. Checkout #aviatrix CoPilot.

-Its time for Network teams to be friends with DevOps to make an unbeatable combination. Learn from each other.

- Cost, Agility, time to market and global customer reach are some of  the key reasons to move to cloud.


Enjoy.



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3 years ago
30 minutes 58 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP30 | Utility industry is a critical national infrastructure | Security, Compliance & Visibility in Cloud is absolutely vital | Special guest Steven Ward from Siemens MAS

Thoroughly enjoyed this podcast conversation with Steven Ward, Corporate Infra leader at Siemens MAS. 

Steven shared lessons learned from his personal cloud journey and how Siemens have transformed over the years to start realizing full benefit of cloud.

Some of the key points from the conversation:

  • Utility industry is critical national infrastructure, where security, compliance and visibility is absolutely critical and is a large part of why Siemens is working with Aviatrix
  • 2 key factors businesses look for are: Predictability in Cost and predictability in outcome and cloud do provides this very well.
  • Enterprises are NOT a “software house” and DIY scripting at scale across different environments is like a “square peg in a round hole”
  • Aviatrix is redefining the security posture in the cloud by making it a first class citizen, embedded as part of the fabric with intelligence built on top. NOT a “bolted On” after thought which is a lift and shift on-prem to cloud approach.
  • Simplified Operations, Secure by Design and Repeatable experience across clouds are key foundational principles of modern cloud architecture. If Operations team is not confident, you will not go far with your cloud journey.
  • Early on, many businesses moved to the cloud as an experiment, a “cool thing to do” and to be seen as a forward-looking company      in front of customers and investors. But cloud has now clearly proven that it is much more than a replacement for VMware, Cisco etc.. Cloud is truly fueling      rapid innovation in almost every vertical.
  • Lastly, when moving to the cloud, don’t fall into the trap of “sorting it later”. Ensure to look at the cost implications of right sizing the environment up      front and ensure right cloud network architecture in place.
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3 years ago
43 minutes 17 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP29 | Connecting the dots b/w Cloud architects and their CEO | With special guests Prateek Goyal - Customer Value Specialist and | Faizan Mustafa ex-CIO Toyota Indus

Fun episode and something different, where we asked Prateek Goyal and Faizan Mustafa on how the new cloud world demands cloud architects and IT directors to align their projects and mindset to CEO/CIO and board initiatives. 

e.g. CEO's may be worried about smaller players in the market who are born in the cloud and have been able to rapidly capture portion of your business by being more agile and providing more flexible offerings. Existential thread is very real. They may also be looking to make their offering more richer by leveraging off-the-shelve CSP services such as around AI/ML to create new revenue streams for their business. Security, global reach and addressing to customers asks would be top of mind as well

Old mindset of "No one gets fired from buying Cisco"  may actually can harm business significantly in cloud world.

Good Champion is a good story teller, aligning technical benefits to to business objectives. Make sure you have that clarity on business goals and go out of the way to be aligned.

C-level puts trust in their Sr. infrastructure leaders and architects to understand their objectives and recommend correct engineering decisions. 

We also talked about advise for Cloud architects on tangible actions they can take to ensure cloud approach and deployment is future proof.

Cloud architects have a a tendency to get lost in technical weeds or pivot to their comfort zone. It's a good practice to take a step back from time to time and ensure alignment to business objective is being met.

Business may have an over arching strategy but all answers may not be know as cloud is a rapid evolving landscape

Modern CFO's are data driven but most of them fully understand the importance of investing in new platforms as its key to digital disruption

CIO/CTO needs to work cloud architects to highlight quantifiable benefits to board and CEO. e.g. Toyota uses the A3 model which has been their secret to success in making sound engineering decisions

For Aviatrix championing and business value guidance, reach out to us info@aviatrix.com

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3 years ago
37 minutes 52 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP28- Why Cool kids joining Aviatrix and reasons top cloud integrators aggressively embracing Aviatrix ?

In Episode 30 , we got together with 2 of the finest Microsoft Azure Cloud specialists Bryan Woodworth and Toni Beck to talk about:

- How customers journey to cloud is evolving post pandemic ?

- Key reasons why movement to cloud is top of mind for CEO's/CIO's to achieve accelerated business growth ?

- Importance of "Built-in Security" and why Aviatrix "Secure cloud networking" approach is the resonating well with top enterpises.

- Critical role  "Born in the cloud  integrators and Top GSIs (SVA, DXC, Accenture, TCS, HCL, Wipro etc) are playing in helping cloud customers and associated urgency in getting their staff Aviatrix certified with fully integrated service offerings.


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3 years ago
36 minutes 37 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP27: What does it mean to be a technology "CHAMPION" for your business?
  • What does it mean to be a technology “CHAMPION” in a business transformation ? Whats in it for you challenging status quo ?     
  • Learn from Jeff Duke on his thought process and lessons learned while in pursuing most optimal cloud networking and security solution for Republic Airways ?
  • Gartner learnings on multi-cloud that helped him and how it has evolved over the last 2 years  ?
  • Repetition gives you “confidence” and passion makes you the champion.
  • What does CCIE’s bring to the table in cloud world  if they can fast track their knowledge with certs like ACE 
  • Why cloud council at Republic airways fell in love with Aviatrix ? easy button
  • Why Aviatrix ThreatIQ/ThreatGuard is a wow factor for network security teams and great example of why cloud security needs to be built into the network fabric
  • Message to CIO/CTO: Even if you have the staff, skip the “DIY”, b/c its going to hold you back and can be a business risk b/c of skill gap and overhead in in keeping up to date with CSP innovation. Don't turn into a software house
  • Lastly, don’t be afraid to take risks on new technology. Don’t hold on to old dinosaurs and its all about leaving legacy behind. [Check      Steve Cube interview ]
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3 years ago
37 minutes 25 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP26 - “How AUDI AG/ VW Group found their magic with Aviatrix on Gartner recommendation" - With special guests Ryan Wiley and Sebastian Kister

Gartner analyst friend once told me amount of due diligence and deep research hey have to put in to publish their reports based on understanding the market, researching vendor products and interviewing wide variety of customers. The work is even more difficult with new market as old data is no longer valid. This is a heavy impact, responsibility work as thousands of  business decision makers make important technology decisions based on those reports and data points.

In episode 26 of our cloud network podcast, we are lucky to have Ryan Wiley and Sebastian Kister from AUDI AG talk about their cloud journey and how Gartner recommendation on Aviatrix immensely helped them simplify their cloud networking and security experience and overcome severe challenges caused by older Cloud 1.0/20 approaches.

I am sure Gartner (cloud networking) would feel good listening to this, as much as new customers looking  for recommendations to optimize their cloud networking and security experience.

We also talked about people/process transformation and how Audi/VW group put passionate people in charge to break the silos and build a cross-collaboration team culture to create positive impact for their business.


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4 years ago
49 minutes 36 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP25 – "Don’t let Cloud intimidate you and think security at every layer” - With very special guest Shaun Norris, MS Norris (Chief Architect – Cyber Defense Infrastructure)


Fortunate to host Shaun on our cloud networking podcast to discuss lessons learned from his various cloud projects in last 10 years.

Some key learnings :

- When moving to cloud, security should be top of mind day1. You can continue improving in phases but figure out your policy structure understanding how the cloud works and applications ingress/egress flows

- Why security postures in cloud are different and advise to customers to think of implementing security at different layers leveraging both native capabilities from CSPs and cloud-smart vendor solutions

- Importance of network level visibility to detect anomaly, and threats.

- Advise for Network and security engineers to understand overall network architecture and native constructs of CSPs as key part of their cloud ramp up.

- Lastly how compliance/audit requirements are going to become more stringent in cloud requiring evidential proof and how security architects and practitioners can build a more secure infrastructure for their business and customers.

Enjoy !!

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4 years ago
37 minutes 15 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP24 - VMware Multi-cloud strategy: Are you also confused ?

VMware is an on-prem company, actually they do data center compute/network virtualization better than anybody else. However, their Multi-cloud portfolio and strategy is confusing. This should not come as a surprise as like many other legacy on-prem vendors, they face the “incumbent dilemma”. This post does a good job explaining  https://rishidean.com/2014/12/08/incumbents-dilemma-why-disrupting-yourself-is-hard/

VMware do accept the fact that applications their infrastructure was servicing is now rapidly moving to cloud and Michael Dell recently confirmed  "even days of hybrid-cloud are long gone, next phase is Multi-cloud". https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/dell-hybrid-cloud-long-gone-multi-cloud-next-phase/2021/10/

  • This BTW is not new as Gartner and modern born in the cloud networking vendors such as #Aviatrix have been talking about this for more than 2 years now] https://aviatrix.com/gartner-cloud-networking-market-guide/


  • Enterprise must think of “end state architecture “ in cloud and strive to get to that destination as quick as possible. Intermediate temporary parking lot approaches, even though could be necessary to meet DC shutdown deadlines, they are costly as it slows down realization of true cloud agility and operations teams delay their ramp up to support future state architecture. Cloud partners like #accenture are maturing their app migrations skills tremendously moving businesses with minimum disruption. This will continue to get better.
  • Lastly John Gonsalves, Nauman Mustafa advise to CIO/CTO/CEO’s: Enterprises must review the construct of their advisory/strategy team and ensure to hire new leaders with real experience in cloud to augment experience of on-prem world. Wrong approaches can massively slow down your competitive advantage.


  • Lastly when it comes to Multi-cloud networking, Brad Hedlund puts this very nicely “ No definition of Multi-cloud networking is complete if you do nothing to connect native VPC/VNETs/workloads and expect one side of the connection to always be VMWare


  • Checkout out this podcast (on request from our community) with candid views from Industry top cloud networking professionals who have experienced both on-prem and cloud native world first hand. At the end of the day remember to “align your center of gravity to your end state which is now multi-cloud’ and don’t forget “architecture is the most important thing”

Enjoy !!

https://anchor.fm/netjoints/episodes/EP24---VMware-Multi-cloud-strategy-Are-you-also-confused-e18sv6m

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4 years ago
46 minutes 18 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP23 - Cloud is a “Ferrari like experience” for your business, but you must know when to slow down to go FAST ” – with special guest Atta Meer, Global Network & Network Security Architecture Lead at T

Takeda is a R&D driven, biopharmaceutical leader with a global presence. In this podcast, we got together with experienced cloud transformation leader Atta Meer to learn about his personal cloud journey and lessons learned from various cloud projects. Atta also provided great insights on how enterprises and Manage service providers (MSP’s) should be ramping up cloud networking skills of their staff.

Some key points:

-  Amazon Web Services (AWS) created something amazing years ago that allowed research-oriented pharma companies like Takeda to leverage on-demand infrastructure elasticity at the pace of opportunity. There are always new research happening that requires time bound compute/storage and there is no way traditional DC’s can match the business efficiency of CSP.

- Cloud consumption overall is growing at a tremendous pace with new use cases evolving every day

- #Aviatrix is an off-the-shelve platform that has made life tremendously simple for cloud networking and operations team whether business is using single cloud or multiple. Explore it to appreciate how connectivity b/w regions and clouds and to on-prem has evolved dramatically from early days.

Result is: rapid expansion and better healthcare. Operational pains are biggest inhibitor to business agility in cloud.

- How #Aviatrix service insertion policy framework has helped build an operationally supportable and manageable secure environment with redundancy and high availability.

Result is: Always ON, secure, compliant, auditable infrastructure

- Instead of managing hundreds of complex scripts that are prone to human errors, how Aviatrix helps make the most of Terraform by improving codebase, do it better, cheaper and in less time with added day2 ops and visibility

Result is: Do more with less with

- Modern business needs demand a multi-cloud network architecture [MCNA] even if business is currently dominant in a single cloud.

- In terms of employees skills, 3 prong approach that has worked for him to : 1)Hire new talent, 2) upgrade existing employee skills as they have the tribal knowledge and 3) leverage partner/MSPs where it makes sense.

- Atta advise all customers, partners, MSPs to at least have minimum of 2 certifications in cloud networking. 1. Aviatrix Certified Engineer (to know constructs of each cloud and where the gap exists) &  2. CSP practitioner level certification from any CSP such as AWS and Azure. He even recommends High school students to do ACE-associate to understand the lay of the cloud networking land.

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4 years ago
39 minutes 25 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP22 - Black swan events lurking in your cloud network - Are you prepared ? - with cloud guru and evangelist Karthik Balachandran

EP22 - "Black swan event lurking in your cloud network - Are you prepared?"

Karthik Balachandran is a cloud guru with 12+ years of priceless experience helping customers with their cloud journey. Over the years, Karthik has witnessed various customer approaches and strategy shifts to maximize ROI in cloud.

In episode 22 of "Lets talk cloud networking" podcast, Karthik shared his learnings and how best to approach todays cloud deployments from cloud networking and security perspective. Some key points:

- Why cloud DIY approach is literally a black swan event waiting to happen due to risks managing complex scripts that becomes impossible to manage as deployment scales or due to key people deciding to move on.

- Moreover, working with established "born in the cloud" networking vendors who have deep knowledge of CSP cloud capabilities and a "supportable platform" is absolutely critical

-How customers mindset have shifted across various phases of cloud  maturity (1.0/2.0/3.0) and "multi-cloud becoming the new-normal"

- Day0 cloud architecture/design is important but make sure to not overlook Operational readiness of your staff and visibility/advance analytics that is critical to the the success of you digitally transformed business in cloud.

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4 years ago
34 minutes 27 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP21 - EMEA cloud learnings and why Azure is first choice in a rapidly evolving multi-cloud region ” - with EMEA cloud networking experts IDES VANNEUVILLE and DENNIS HAGENS

In EP21 we got together with Ides and Dennis to talk about EMEA cloud trends and some lessons learned from customers cloud journey in the region. Key points include:

  • Why Azure is first choice CSP for majority large enterprises in the region 
  • How EMEA landscape has rapidly evolved from single cloud mindset to embracing multi-cloud 
  • Connectivity to mainland China is a key trend with some large EMEA customers
  • Advise for cloud architects to "zoom out", take a step back and look at big picture on how cloud needs to be architected for current and future business needs
  • How Partner landscape is evolving with a new breed evolving b/w two extremes of legacy on-prem partners and csp-native, DIY only type partners.
  • "Go-build ourselves" mindset works early on when application footprint is small but as complexity increases as environment grows, customers focus has shifted to "consuming" partner product , such as Aviatrix, that makes life easier allowing business to focus on cloud agility.

Hope you enjoy.


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4 years ago
39 minutes 46 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP20 - “Aviatrix provides bulletproof reliability, critical to aviation business ” - with special guest STEFFEN WAGNER (Head of Technology COE at Lufthansa Systems)

Myself and John Gonsalves just recorded our 20th episode of "Lets talk cloud networking - unscripted" and who better person than Steffen Wagner from Lufthansa systems to join us and share his personal cloud journey and lessons learned from leveraging #azurecloud #gcpcloud #awscloud as DC's are getting rapidly evacuated.

Key points:

1. Cloud needs are evolving rapidly and CEO/CIO/business leaders want you to "architect a future proof cloud" as all requirements are NOT known today".

2. Cloud customers maturity has evolved from using CSP as just IaaS provider to helping business with faster application delivery and enable speed of innovation against competition.

3. How moving to cloud has significantly help IT take control back and better respond to business needs.

4. Abstract as much as possible in cloud and be careful of getting locked into CSP specific solutions such as Azure vWAN, AWS TGW, GCP NCC etc.. This will complex-ify operations and hinder your flexibility to move your apps in the cloud your business/customer wants.

5. #aviatrix active/active resiliency and centralized management/visibility plane with intelligent routing across regions, clouds and on-prem allows for bulletproof stability critical to aviation business.

Negative Consequence:  Without Aviatrix, even small outages could result in flight cancellations and millions of revenue loss.

6. Your app developers wants networking/security to get out of their way and Aviatrix provides self-service way to "consume" as part of their app delivery lifecycle.

7. Follow a "multi-cloud" and "Cloud-First but not ONLY" strategy as small portion of apps may not be ready to be move to cloud. Take time to refactor and optimize to realize true benefits.

Hope you enjoy.

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4 years ago
45 minutes 10 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP19 - "Doing Cloud with on-prem approach and vendors is a proven recipe for failure" - 10 min advise for Financial Services Industry (FSI) customers from John Gonsalves


Some key points:

1. Doing Cloud with on-prem approach and relying on legacy on-prem vendors is a proven recipe for failure. Listen to what Johbn witnessed does NOT work in cloud.

2. What every customer specifically FSI customers expects their cloud vendors to articulate very crisply:

*** What business problem your technology is solving ?

*** Describe the business value that can be derived as an outcome

*** How much does it cost.

3. Business agility and security are 2 top goals for FSI customers in the cloud. i.e. How can I get "Accelerated business growth" and "how do you reduce my risk" by aligning my security posture to global regulatory requirements.

Listen to how Aviatrix helps customers achieve this.

4. Do it right, Do it the first time to gain competitive advantage.

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4 years ago
16 minutes 44 seconds

Cloud Packets and Perimeters
EP18 - "How Aviatrix created that "Aha" moment for driverless vehicle technology leader Easy Mile" - Listen to DevSecOps Tech leader Razvan Matei

#EasyMile is a pioneer in connected vehicles space with award winning driverless technology and with operations in 40+ countries. Cloud is critical for these technologies to work and having a reliable, low latency network is essential. For early adopters, cloud expect customers to fail fast as picking the right tool and platform is directly tied to agility and exponential business benefits.

In this episode, we get together with Razvan Matei , an early adopters in cloud and currently working as DevSecOps lead @ EasyMile Cloud R&D group. Razvan shared his cloud journey, lessons learned and insights that connected technology customers must consider.

Some key points:

- Data is the new oil and for connected objects technology, a reliable, low latency network is essential.

-Networking in cloud is like water pipes in a house, that when it breaks all hell break lose directly impacting safety, security, obstacle detection etc.

- How having a unified, coherent, consistent and secure global transit with Aviatrix helped open up new business opportunities and relieved the burden on cloud teams letting them focus on core business.

-Point of presence closest to vehicles is extremely important and no matter how ubiquitous or better one cloud is, customer expects vendors to make their offering available everywhere for performance and data sovereignty reasons and hence multi-cloud is a must have architecture for businesses.

-Lastly, every cloud is built different in functionality and semantics are different which no cloud team can handle so abstraction and uniformity that Aviatrix provides is absolutely essential.




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Cloud Packets and Perimeters
A podcast where Cybersecurity and Cloud Networking Converge. We are securing the cloud, One Packet at a Time. Brought to you by NetJoints.com— your source for cloud networking and security insights. netJoints is the Intersection of Packets and Protection.