The ChangeMakers Podcast tells stories of people changing the world.
We produce ChangeMaker Chats with people who share why and how they make change, and we also do documentary style episodes about change making campaigns. W known change makers like the 2019 Hong Kong Protesters, Standing Rock activists, climate campaigners like Bill Mckibben and Australian of the Year Grace Tame, as well as
change makers, all of whom have stories and lessons to share.
Tune to our episodes that release every fortnight on a Tuesday to be inspired about what is possible, and learn from the insights, successes and failures of others! We bege so with over 120 episodes there is plenty to be inspired by in our back catalogue about how we can change the world. You can find out more about our episodes, join our email discover more change making content at https://changemakerspodcast.org/.
Our host Amanda Tattersall is an Australian ChangeMaker, co-founding GetUp, founding community organising in Australia with the Sydney Alliance, and now is a action-rese
Associate Professor at the Universitv of Svdnev.
ChangeMakers is sponsored by the Sydney Policy Lab at the University of Sydney.
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The ChangeMakers Podcast tells stories of people changing the world.
We produce ChangeMaker Chats with people who share why and how they make change, and we also do documentary style episodes about change making campaigns. W known change makers like the 2019 Hong Kong Protesters, Standing Rock activists, climate campaigners like Bill Mckibben and Australian of the Year Grace Tame, as well as
change makers, all of whom have stories and lessons to share.
Tune to our episodes that release every fortnight on a Tuesday to be inspired about what is possible, and learn from the insights, successes and failures of others! We bege so with over 120 episodes there is plenty to be inspired by in our back catalogue about how we can change the world. You can find out more about our episodes, join our email discover more change making content at https://changemakerspodcast.org/.
Our host Amanda Tattersall is an Australian ChangeMaker, co-founding GetUp, founding community organising in Australia with the Sydney Alliance, and now is a action-rese
Associate Professor at the Universitv of Svdnev.
ChangeMakers is sponsored by the Sydney Policy Lab at the University of Sydney.
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We have a chat with Radio Nation's Saturday Extra Host Nick Bryant about all things America - and the long story behind the intractable conflicts in the US. This episode was recorded in December 2024 - after President Trump's election but before he took office so it doesn't focus on what has happened in 2025. Instead it casts a long history that sheds light on the fissures and conflicts, the trend towards authoritarianism and the racism that is not new in American politics.
It is also a lovely background to the indefatigable host of Australia's number one (or at least our number one) current affairs radio show!
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In Australia, since 2012 there has been an explosive growth in community independents who have been challenging the two-party system and bringing new voices in the parliament. But there is a much bigger story than just the arrival of many new faces in parliament. Behind the new elected representatives is a massive movement of people - the "Voices of" movement - that started in Indi and has spread out across the country. That national movement is called Voices for Australia.
Denis was a founding member of the Indi movement and has played a leadership role in supporting and sharing these ideas nationally. In this chat we find out about his long history in rural community activism and then we unpack some of the features of the Voices of movement that has led to its success so far ....
You can also read more about Voices for Indi in their book available here:
https://scribepublications.com.au/books/the-indi-way
Or read this shorter piece in Arena by Denis and Lesley Howard about the Community Independents movement:
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When millions of fish died overnight in Menindee in western NSW, the community came together to mourn, interpret and respond to what had happened through a series of powerful arts events. What happened was supported by the use of a socially-engaged arts practice that brought people together across difference to create a space where communities could lead a response.
This chat is with Vic McEwan, an internationally recognised artist and researcher, founder of the Cad Factory and now resident of Narrandera in Western NSW. He has led a well recognised program of amazing art produced with communities. In this episode he shares some of his journey into this work from the nightlife of Marrickville and working on the 000 hotline, and tells us about some of the emerging principles and practices he has learnt from his practice.
Vic is currently a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Sydney. You can read about his other work here.
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Senator Fatima Payman was the first hijab wearing member of parliament representing the Australian Labor Party and in 2024 she was removed from the ALP caucus in response to her campaigning (and crossing the floor of parliament) calling for the ALP to recognise the genocide in Gaza and the need for a Palestinian State. As it turns out, her leadership was ahead of its time, with much of the world now finally recognising that more must be done to end Israeli aggression and support the right of Gaza to exist.
In this conversation she shares the long history of her rise as young Senator from Western Australia. The guiding strength, voice and resilience she learnt from her parents, and how determined she was to bring all of herself - her faith, her gender and her voice - into the Parliament when she was elected. And yes - we talk about what happened when she crossed the floor and what she it has taught her about politics, political parties and making change.
For more about Senator Fatima Payman go to https://www.fatimapayman.com.au/
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There is a lot of talk about co-design and community engagement in research and public policy - but in practice a lot of that talk ends up looking like window dressing rather than real community partnership.
We talk to one of the world's leading co-design, community engaged researchers in nursing - Professor Brendan McCormak Head of the Nursing School at the University of Sydney - to find out strategies for how he involves patients and nurses in the creation of research. The result is not only an amazing story about a career of co-created knowledge, but a series of powerful insights and strategies for anyone interested in the art of working WITH others in building solutions and knowledge.
You can find out more about Brendan here.
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The second Trump Administration has brought with it an unprecedented attack on migrants, led by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) focused on people who are living in the United States without formal documentation. In this conversation we talk with Alexandra Pineros Shields - a long term community organiser, immigrant rights campaigner and researcher about how communities are fighting back to defend the rights of migrants and change how policing is done.
This conversation explores Alexandra's history of organising and building strategy to make change, as well as the kinds of innovative tactics being used by communities to combat ICE. She runs through techniques like power analysis and shows how a practical understanding of different dimensions of power can help build effective strategy. She talks about the power of communities using prefigurative action - where they model what the state should be doing - as a way to tell a story to make change more compelling.
This episode is a deep dive into what you might have seen on the news - it is a reassuring and inspiring reminder that even in the face of repression and abusive of power, there is also power in community to respond and make change.
In the podcast a few different organisations are mentioned, here is where you can find out more:
John Gaventa - When Alexandra teaches she asks students read chapter 4 from The Miner’s Canary. We also have links of a diagram that Alexandra uses with organisers on our website.
‘Midwife for Power’: Towards a Mujerista/Womanist Model of Community Organizing - https://epress.lib.uts.edu.au/journals/index.php/ijcre/article/view/7771/7855
Ayni Institute - https://ayni.institute/
The Right Question Institute (Cambridge, Massachusetts) – Question Formulation Technique - https://rightquestion.org/what-is-the-qft/
City of Boston – City of Belonging Campaign
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Climate change has led the Northern Rivers has been inundated by flood and flood threats, but it has also shown Australia - and the world - what it looks like to lead a community response to climate change. In this episode we talk with Rebecca McNaught, a community researcher on disaster response who shares with us how the community did respond to the extreme floods in 2022, and what all communities can learn from what they did.
Bec has decades of experience in community-led climate work, having worked across the Pacific and the world before focusing on researching best practice in community strategies. She was undertaking field work when the 2022 floods began, and she helped lead emergency support with others in her neighbourhood before she finished her PhD documenting best practice.
In this conversation she argues that big concepts like "climate change adaptation" and creating climate infrastructure are at their heart about building strong social bonds between people who can be there for each other when dialling 000 no longer works.
For more on the Northern Rivers Community Resilience Alliance see here.
For information on the University of Sydney's University Centre for Rural Health see here.
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On the Winter Solstice in 2025 Amanda spoke at an event in Albury held to raise awareness about Mental Illness and Suicide. She shared about her story of living with bipolar and some of the lessons it has generated about how we make a difference.
In this podcast we replay that speech.
Thanks to Survivors of Suicide and Friends for creating this event. For more on their work and previous events, visit their website https://survivorsofsuicide.org.au/
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In light of the release of Victoria's landmark truth telling inquiry, we are re-releasing this important ChangeMaker Chat with Terri Janke, one of Australia's leading advocates for the recognition of Indigenous cultural and intellectual property.
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Terri Janke is an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Lawyer who uses the law to protect and advance Indigenous Cultural and Intellectual Property. As a Meriam and Wuthathi woman who grew up in Cairns in northern Queensland, for over 20 years she has crafted a set of legal instruments that allow for the protection of Indigenous Culture. From an Indigenous perspective, Culture is the embodiment of life, and it can be represented in anything from art to dance, from bones to research. She is well recognised across Australia for her work in protecting Indigenous Culture using a series of True Track protocols that enable Indigenous Culture to be recognised as intellectual property.
Here she explains her journey and how she found the law. She explores her ICIP principles and then applies them to the process of research, and in particular Country-based ‘placed-based’ research. This is a powerful conversation for non-Indigenous listeners as Terri generously shares an Indigenous perspective on Culture that is very different to white understandings of culture.
For more about Terri’s work you can visit her website – https://www.terrijanke.com.au/. Or read her book True Tracks, available from UNSW Press.
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On Saturday 21 June, ChangeMakers Host Amanda Tattersall is speaking at the Winter Solstice Event in Albury organised by the Survivors of Suicide & Friends. There she will share some of her experiences of living with bipolar and what reflecting on those experiences have brought to her work as a change maker.
You can find out more and tune into the event online at survivorsofsuicide.org.au.
This event is an extraordinary event to mark the longest and coldest night of the year and commemorate those who have died by suicide and those who live with mental illness. Amanda is truly honoured to be invited, and to mark this important event, we are re-releasing a podcast memoir written and recorded a couple of years about Amanda's journey with bipolar, co-founding GetUp and creating the Sydney Alliance.
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How can we hold together big ambition for social change on issues like climate alongside the small work required to build powerful connections across our diversity and difference? This piece explores the tensions of scale between big and small, fast and slow through stories and reflections across a life of organising. Our host Amanda Tattersall reads a memoir that she wrote for the Griffith Review in their August edition entitled Hey Utopia.
You can find the Griffith Review here: www.griffithreview.com/editions/hey-utopia/. and it is also here not behind a paywall.
You can download this episode on Apple, Spotify, LiSTNR, Stitcher, and all your other favourite podcast apps.
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This is a re-release of an important conversation with the remarkable UK organisation called Love and Power, that is seeking to respond to violence against women by building the leadership and capacity of women to lead the change.
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While we know that too many women live with the ever-present threat of violence our societies seem to struggle with what to do about it. While we have refuges services, and at times the issue is raised in national debate, we seem unable to address the problem at its core.
In the UK, Love and Power is a new organisation that is seeking to end vioelcne aganst women by putting women who have experienced domestic violence at the centre of the debate. Love and Power combines the insight and knowledge that comes from lived experience with the strategies of community organising to bring a new approach to an old problem.
In this ChangeMaker Chat we talk with Charlotte Fischer and Martha Jephcott the founders of Love and Power. Martha grew up in a violent household and brings her own experience of the limits of service provision to the movement, she combines this with Charlotte’s experience as a community organiser to create a new kind of women’s movement that seeks to show the public dimensions of women’s experiences as a way to find political solutions to the probelm of violence.
You can find out more about love and power here – https://www.loveandpower.co.uk. You can follow them on socials – @loveandpowerorg for both X and instagram.
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With all the tumult in UK and global politics, and the new Labor victory in Australia, we are re-releasing an episode with UK Labour Party Cabinet Minister and former Opposition Leader Ed Miliband. The topic - big politics! This episode was recorded in 2021.
When can political parties be real change makers and produce big change? Ed Miliband, former Opposition Leader for the UK Labour Party shares some of the lesser known stories that have shaped his political identity and his ambitions for a politics that can go big. We discuss the role of labour and social democratic parties in the change making space. We reconsider the idea that ‘politics is the art of the possible’ and Ed shares some of his insight into the kind of politics that is needed for these challenging times.
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Too often, when we think of public servants we think of paper shufflers and number crunches. But nurses, teachers and care workers as well as officers working in government departments - aren't doing it for the money! These public servants - bureaucrats - are driven by a sense of service, commitment and care that is so vital to support all of our lives.
Dan Honig, from UCL (UK) and Georgetown (US) is one of the world's leading researchers on public service practice and he talks with us about what it takes for public servants to be supported to deliver a big mission of care and community support. Building on the research published in his recent book Mission-Driven Bureaucrats he talks about the difference between managing for compliance and support for mission driven work - and how important those systems are for shaping whether public servants can thrive in their work.
Dan spoke to us from Washington DC and we also talked about how the current US context is affecting public servants and public service.
You can find out more about Dan at this website: https://danhonig.info/, and find out about his latest book - Mission driven bureaucrats - https://danhonig.info/missiondrivenbureaucrats.
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With a Federal Election almost upon us - this is one we recorded earlier (#ICYMI) - a long form audio essay about the refugee politics of 20 years ago, and the many lingering challenges we face when it comes to big issues that divide us - like refugee policy and climate change. This episode is a personal memoir about setting up Labor for Refugees and the challenges we faced in changing the Australian Labor Party.
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Examining the tough relationships between mainstream progressive parties and movements in Australia, host Amanda Tattersall looks back at her own experience. She tells the story of the 2001-2004 refugee movement’s attempt to shift the Australian Labor Party (ALP) and examines what worked, and what was learnt. Lessons are drawn for the climate movement today. This piece was also published by Fabian Review in February 2022.
You can download this episode on Apple, Spotify, LiSTNR, Stitcher, and all your other favourite podcast apps.
You can find the original article online at Australian Fabian Review here.
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Can lawyers really be change makers?
We talk with Michael Bradley who has taken on Murdoch as well as defending the rights of refugees about what it takes to be a lawyer and a change maker at the same time. He shares his 20 year journey from conventional law to a different kind of lawyering that he has now practiced for 17 years at Marque Lawyers - and how he now centres his legal practice around relationships.
He also shares a few war stories of how he has used the law to fight for justice, including the battle against Lachlan Murdoch's attempt to sue Crickey for defamation.
Whether you are a lawyer or you are a lawyer sceptic - there is something powerful in Michael's dissection of the legal profession and his identification of a different way to practice the law.
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This is a re-run episode recorded in 2024 - importantly - before the 2024 Presidential Election, but its insights and lessons about ChangeMaking are still deeply relevant!
What are some of the skills or insights shared by some of America’s extraordinary change makers, people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alicia Garza or Loretta Ross? In particular, what can these people teach us about how to build larger movements for change?
Anand Giridhardhas, author of Persuaders, talks us through what he discovered when he interviewed these and other American change makers. In this chat Anand shares the story behind why he came to write this book – about his own story as a bridge builder between cultures and the lessons he learnt about how people navigate change.
The chat then turns to his book Persuaders – identifying lessons about how persuaders communicate, how they work across difference, and how important it is for movements to be able to think about the kind of implications that change making has on communities while they are prosecuting change with communities.
This chat is all about Persuaders, but Anand has written four powerful books: India Calling, True American, Winners Take All and Persuaders. You can find out more about Anand here – https://www.anand.ly/.
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The Disability Movement famously argues ‘nothing about us without us.’ Wenn Lawson lives this creed as a world leading autistic advocate and researcher who has helped change how we understand autism and neurodivergence. He shares his journey, including how he shook the house of academia so it would listen to the lives of autistic people. He reflects on the power of co-produced research, identity and difference in how we build knowledge together.
For more about Wenn’s research and books, go to http://www.buildsomethingpositive.com/wenn/
We first released this episode in 2022.
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Can you make a difference by being funny? In this episode news satirist and stand up comedian Sami Shah takes us through the art of political satire and the journey that got him there.
Sami grew up in Pakistan, studied in the United States and became a fully fledged journalist - and comedian in his home country before traveling to Australia. He moved to Australia in 2012 living in Western Australia and almost killing a kangaroo before becoming a leading stand up comedian as well as a powerful voice for a more diverse comedy, journalistic and artistic community.
In this episode we talk about political satire’s power to challenge us and help us see things differently, but also its limits in directly shifting actual events. He talks us through his method for News Satire on his podcast News Weakly, as well as what he has learnt about the power of making jokes about the taboo - including what is happening in Gaza and Israel.
You can listening to Sami’s News Weakly podcast, also hosted on ACAST here:
https://shows.acast.com/news-weakly
And find more about his books and activities here: https://thesamishah.com/
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In a world where everyone is worried about cost of living – what difference would it make to lift the wages of the lowest paid workers?
Lyndy McIntyre has documented a campaign that did exactly that in Aotearoa New Zealand. Her book Power to Win documents that struggle and in this chat she explores some of the key strategies that made that campaign work.
Power to Win is available:
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Living Wage campaign in Aotearoa New Zealand:
In May 2012 a new social movement was launched in Aotearoa New Zealand with the goal of lifting the wages of the lowest paid workers. It all began with the Service and Food Workers Union’s mission to win back the power needed to achieve decent pay for its members after the passage of an anti-worker, anti-union law in 1991. After trying many strategies, in 2011 the union reached out to the community with an invitation to build power together to unite around the shared goal of addressing poverty wages. The outcome has been hugely successful and changed the lives of many thousands of workers and their families. In Living Wage Movement Aotearoa NZ faith groups, community organisations and unions work in partnership. These groups represent thousands of New Zealanders in organisations as diverse as Catholic social justice groups, the Māori Women’s Welfare League, students associations and refugee advocacy organisations. The diversity of Living Wage Movement Aotearoa NZ is the strength of the movement and the secret of the success of the many campaigns that have won the living wage for thousands of workers — in corporates, across local and central government and in small businesses and NGOs.
Read more about Living Wage Movement Aotearoa NZ here.
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Welcome back to ChangeMakers Podcast for 2025! It certainly feels like this is a big year for thinking creatively and deeply about how to make the world better!
Our first episode is a re-run of a chat with the brilliant and powerful Grace Tame. Grace took a powerful form of action at the Australian of the Year event a few weeks ago, wearing a provocative t-shirt that got the country (and world) talking! We wanted to celebrate her clear minded and powerful advocacy by re-sharing the chat we had with her in 2023.
Enjoy!
For our overseas listeners - Grace Tame is the former Australian of the year who wore this t-shirt to an event with the Australian Prime Minister for the 2025 Australian of the Year awards in January. She was an Australian of the Year award winner in 2021 - having been a prominent advocate against child sexual abuse as a survivor. Since her award she has only expanded her reach and voice and this protest was to recognise one of Australia's most unhelpful Australian’s.
This podcast was recorded in 2023.
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