Sub-genres within sub-genres! Today we discuss two celebrity-television-recap podcasts and how they achieve previously unheard-of levels of laziness within the celebrity podcast space. Plus a bit of Ricki Lake.

The arc of the podcast universe is long, but it bends toward mediocrity. In this episode, we discuss the (not so unlikely) friendship between Barack Obama and the Boss, and their dive into the celebrity podcast landscape.

In this episode we provide some hard-rocking commentary on Alec Baldwin's decade-old podcast (with the Piano Man himself!)

God Save Meghan Markle! (and her shockingly bad attempt to break into the celebrity podcast space)