In this episode, Brett and Nathan continue their conversation on spiritual mothers within the Body of Christ. Together, they dive into the question: Why does Jesus need a Bride? and Why did Adam need Eve? They unpack how the enemy’s deception in the Garden didn’t just rob man—it robbed both man and woman of their divine identities and anointed roles God originally designed for them as one. Tune in for a powerful discussion on restoration, purpose, and the redemptive Order of God!

In this episode, Brett and Nathan tread carefully into the topic of Kingdom Wives and Mothers, highlighting the calling and influence of women in the home. Drawing from the Scriptures they reflect on the wife of noble character who is worth far more than rubies, reminding us that “charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.” Together, they discuss the God-given role and anointing women carry to set the spiritual pace in their househ...

God wants us uncomfortable. If you aren't operating in faith, you need to check yourself. God is going to lead you to places where you can't do it on your own, you're going to need Him! Remember the story of Gideon. When facing insurmountable odds, God fought his battle for him. The practical is faith! We don't like stepping in those arenas where we'll require God to help us. We don't like being uncomfortable. But if we are following Christ, that's ri...

All power and authority has been given to us by Christ. It’s not about giftings or “figuring it out”. It’s about the mandate to go and make disciples. We should be seeking the Word, living and active, sharper than any double edged sword. And it’s not enough to just come and listen to the word, we have to do what it says! With many men, it’s not whether or not they want to lead or do what God’s telling them to do, it’s that they’ve never been taught. We have to be taught, and then ...

In this compelling episode, Brett and Nathan dive deep into the spiritual authority granted to every man of God through the Lamb who was slain. They echo the cry of John the Baptist: “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world!”—a call not just to acknowledge Christ, but to recognize the weight of His sacrifice and the authority He now imparts to His Bride. This episode is a rallying cry to fathers and husbands: Stop letting the enemy yank your chain. The devil isn’t intim...

Now that we understand the Order, we understand the importance of spiritual fathers. How can we be spiritual fathers, though? The answer lies in the One above us: Jesus Christ. Our covering. Jesus chose to never figure it out. He only did His Father's will. He humbled himself, even to death. The picture of biblical meekness: controlled strength. Because we know His word, we know His walk. What does being a spiritual father look like practically, though? Discipleship! T...

In the Garden of Eden, it was when Adam ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil that their eyes were opened and they were deceived. That’s when the order was disrupted, and man stepped out of God! The anointing flows from the head down, and 1 Corinthians 11 says there is an order: Jesus is the covering for man, and man is the covering for woman. There is a purpose for this order…it is protection for us! Adam put Eve in between himself and the covering of God.&nbs...

This episode, Nathan and Brett continue in discussing the Lampstand. In Daniel 9, the prophecy states that after sixty-two sevens, the Anointed One will be put to death. Who is the Anointed One? Jesus! In the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus began to consume the wrath of God, even though he begged for the cup to pass…he did this for us! “Gethsemane” translates to “oil press.” Jesus had to die for our sins, so that the oil could be poured out at Pentecost…so that the Holy Spirit c...

We're back with Nathan Johnson and Brett Thomas as we kick off Season 2 of Catch You On The Way Up. Episode Description: In Exodus 25 God told Moses to hammer out a lampstand of pure gold. Could you imagine? The lampstand stood in the Holy place of the tabernacle and in both temples, radiating light and symbolizing God's presence. Though the physical lampstand disappeared in 70 AD Revelation 1 and 2 shows Jesus walking amongst 7 golden lampstands, representing the 7 churches. This is th...

In this episode, Brett and Nathan answer some fantastic questions from our listeners and possibly get some inspirations for future podcast episodes! We hope to catch you there, unless!

"Yes, I am coming soon." These are the final words of Jesus Christ in the Bible. Remember that when we say that Jesus is coming soon, they are HIS words, not ours! And remember that God is not slow in keeping his promise, as WE understand slowness. For "with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." Everything began in the Garden, and everything will end in the Garden. Eden shall be restored! The river of the water of life w...

Once God's judgement is complete, there will be a NEW Heaven and a NEW Earth! The old order of things will be gone...tossed away and remembered no more! No more death, no more pain. God's dwelling place will be among HIS people! And a new Jerusalem will be established...it's beauty and wonder unfathomable. A city without a temple, because God and Jesus, the Lamb, ARE the temple! Nothing impure will ever enter it, only those whose names are written in the Lamb's ...

Once the thousand year reign of Jesus is finished, and Satan is thrown into the lake of fire, the great judgement of the dead by God begins. There are many books that will be opened, but there will only be one BOOK, the book of life! All the dead will be judged according to what they have done that is written in the books, and they will be thrown into the lake of fire...the second death! We, the body of Christ, only have to face one death, though! Christ has taken that second de...

Jesus's feet touch the Mount of Olives, Satan is locked up and the thousand year reign begins! Can you imagine? King Jesus ruling on the earth. No deception. We have new bodies, we are like Him! It's hard to fathom, but this is our HOPE! Our hope is that He will return, and that we will be like Him because we shall see him as He is! Do you have ears to hear?

"On this mountain he will destroy the shroud that enfolds all peoples, the sheet that covers all nations." Ever since the enemy was able to get a seed into Adam, the entire world has been facing this shroud of deception, and will continue to until Jesus reigns for a thousand years! Satan will be locked up and deception will be no more. BUT...he will be loosed once more after a millennium, and he will deceive the nations again, their number greater than the sand on the seashore! Do we...

For the Church, it is usually easy to distinguish the Light from the Darkness. But how do you distinguish the Light from the Light? Are you speaking the language of Jesus, the truth, or the language of the world, or lies? The deception will only continue to grow. Remember that when Satan tempted Jesus in the desert, he used God's word VERBATIM! He didn't twist the word. Satan deceives and will continue to deceive! Are you born again? Do you have ears to ...

Leading up to this point of the Day of the Lord, the Wrath of God has been poured out on the world and its inhabitants. Now, the wedding of the Lamb has come! The angel said to John "Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!" And as John fell at his feet to worship, the angel says "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus!" Even the angels worship our Lord Jesus! Our Lord's fe...

Nathan and Brett take some time to answer a few questions that we have received about the Book of Revelation up to this point,

God's unimaginable wrath will continue to be poured out onto the Earth during the Day of the Lord. The sobering thing is that there are those that will be separated from HIM forever...for eternity! There are those that find it hard to understand why God would cause his creations such suffering. Remember, that HE sent his only son to die. To be crucified, for US. Jesus died so that we may be forgiven of our sin. But people rejected that testimony! No wonder...

The timeline that we have discussed is now coming together. The broken seals, the seven trumpets, all pouring God's wrath out on the world! This is the Day of the Lord, and woe to he who longs for that day! Understand that there are those during that time that will be separated from Him forever! We, the body of Christ, should be trying to save as many as possible. Remember that making disciples was not a request, it was a command! The fields are white but the workers...