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Capital Decanted
John Bowman and Aaron Filbeck
39 episodes
5 days ago
Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence. Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.
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Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence. Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.
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Capital Decanted
Season 3 Teaser of Capital Decanted

Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence.
Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping capital allocation.

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5 days ago
7 minutes 6 seconds

Capital Decanted
#1 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: The Great Convergence

Today’s asset management business has quickly transformed into a race to build out a stable of thoroughbreds--investment strategies across a spectrum of conventional public equity and debt as well as offerings across the continuum of private capital--equity, credit, secondaries, real estate, infrastructure etc. What makes recent history particularly unique are the crossover deals from traditional managers with alternative managers.  For several decades, traditional long only mutual fund shops and institutional firms stayed in their lane and idiosyncratic, complex private capital partnerships lived in a different world---there was a peaceful co-existence and mutual exclusivity. Those distinctions and parallel worlds have evaporated.  We explore why with two of the most revered leaders in the industry and compare and contrast their different approaches to meeting this challenge.


Introduction: (2:09)

Halftime: (48:25)

Guests: (54:36)


Guests:

Jean Hynes, CEO, Wellington Management

Jenny Johnson, CEO, Franklin Templeton




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1 week ago
1 hour 42 minutes 41 seconds

Capital Decanted
#2 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: Private Capital for Wealth Clients

How does a legacy private capital partnership who has thrived solely in the institutional draw down LP ecosystem, assemble the apparatus to begin distributing those strategies to the individual investor? When client acquisition and conversations, investor sophistication, product design, culture, operational support etc. are all fundamentally different...where do they start in this overhaul? What challenges and pitfalls have they experienced along the way? What battle scars and advice can they share with others that are considering the same or in the early stages themselves. Join us as we draw a blueprint in a very applied and practical manner.


Introduction: (2:05)

Halftime: (55:18)

Guests: (1:00:56)


Guests:

Shane Clifford, Managing Director–Partner and Head of Global Wealth, Carlyle

Doug Krupa, Managing Director, Global Client Solutions, KKR




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1 week ago
1 hour 51 minutes 13 seconds

Capital Decanted
#3 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: The Modern Asset Owner

What do co-investments, secondaries, joint ventures, and NAV lending have in common? To some, they sound like complex investment vehicles - to us, they represent the cutting-edge tools reshaping how asset owners build portfolios. Gone are the days of relying solely on the binary choice between insourcing or outsourcing investment capabilities. Today’s institutional investors have a dynamic, customizable toolkit at their fingertips, empowering them to craft strategies that truly serve their stakeholders. Join industry leaders Scott Chan and Molly Murphy as they dive into this exciting evolution, unpack the innovative investment vehicles driving change, and discuss the challenges and opportunities in implementation.


Introduction: (2:08)

Halftime: (1:00:48)

Guests: (1:07:17)


Guests:

Molly Murphy, Chief Investment Officer, OCERS

Scott Chan, CFA, Chief Investment Officer, CalSTRS


Episode Sources


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2 weeks ago
2 hours 3 minutes 17 seconds

Capital Decanted
#4 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: A Crypto Golden Age?

After many booms, busts, and shakeouts in crypto markets, the pump seems primed for broader adoption in institutional portfolios. Are we really doing this? How might a seemingly crypto-friendly Trump Administration fuel further adoption in the largest capital market in the world? In this episode, we use history as a guide, exploring the phases of crypto adoption and wrestling with whether we're truly in a new era or if the headlines are overhyping reality. Join us and our guests, Robbie Mitchnick of BlackRock and Greg Tusar of Coinbase, to explore further.


Introduction: (2:03)

Halftime: (1:03:01)

Guests: (1:09:13)


Guests:

Greg Tusar, Head of Institutional Product, Coinbase

Robert Mitchnick, Head of Digital Assets, BlackRock


Episode Sources


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2 weeks ago
1 hour 52 minutes 28 seconds

Capital Decanted
#5 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: Is China Investable?

Despite being thousands of years old, China’s current economic and political system began to take shape only in the late 20th century, particularly following the economic reforms initiated in the late 1970s. Today, China represents one of the largest economies in the world, a breeding ground for innovation, and an exciting capital market increasingly open to foreigners. However, recent policy swings and geopolitical events have called many items into question - is China investable? Is it possible to develop a long-term view despite short-term geopolitical headwinds? And, most importantly, will the many years of progress toward economic and political pragmatism win the day? We're joined by China private capital investor pioneer, Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO of the Dietrich Foundation.


Introduction: (2:09)

Halftime: (1:22:17)

Guest: (1:30:26)


Guest:

Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO, The Dietrich Foundation


Episode Sources

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3 weeks ago
2 hours 38 minutes 45 seconds

Capital Decanted
#6 S2 Decanter's (Half) Dozen: Asset Based Lending

Asset-based lending has come of age, but its evolution has made it challenging to put it in a homogeneous category or asset class, given its complexity and diversity of the underlying universe. From receivables and real estate to royalties and R&D, the range of collateral backing these loans raises questions about ABL's position within the broader private credit complex. In this episode, we attempt to define the history and parameters of ABL, including how loans are structured, as well as crucial due diligence and portfolio construction considerations. To help us explore these topics, we're joined by Greg Turk, Deputy CIO of Illinois Police Officers' Pension Investment Fund, and Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital Partners.


Introduction: (2:08)

Halftime: (58:18)

Guest: (1:03:50)


Guests:

  • Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital Partners

  • Greg Turk, Deputy CIO, Head of Private Markets, Illinois Police Officers Pension Investment Fund

Episode Sources

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3 weeks ago
1 hour 44 minutes 39 seconds

Capital Decanted
On Location at the SALT Wyoming Blockchain Symposium: Special Summer Episode

Live from the Wyoming Blockchain Symposium, we sat down with three of the earliest pioneers in the space to discuss the unprecedented political, regulatory and market momentum of crypto and blockchain. Franklin Templeton’s Jenny Johnson, SALT and Skybridge Capital’s Anthony Scaramucci, and Pantera Capital’s Dan Morehead joined us to explore the need for bipartisanship, the current use cases for the technology platform, and more. 


Guests:

Jenny Johnson, CEO, Franklin Templeton

Anthony Scaramucci, Founder and Managing Partner, Skybridge Capital; Founder and Chairman, SALT

Dan Morehead, Founder and Managing Partner, Pantera Capital

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1 month ago
41 minutes 44 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 11: The Evolution of Private Equity - From Wizards to Artisans with Jacob Kotzubei

Financial engineering or operational value add? As private equity's growth has evolved over several decades, the mechanics of deal structure, capital structure, and motivations have undergone changes across several eras. No longer just the barbarians at the gate anymore, many private equity firms have turned their attention from balance sheet gymnastics to delivering actual operating expertise for portfolio companies. In this episode of Capital Decanted, we answer important questions - what is driving this evolution? How are deal structures different today vs. in the late 1980s? And what is the playbook for a segment of the industry trying to deliver true value? To help us answer these questions, we are joined by Jacob Kotzubei, Co-President of Platinum Equity.


Introduction: (0:48)

Halftime: (52:00)

Guest: (58:31)


Guest: Jacob Kotzubei, Co-President, Platinum Equity


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2 months ago
1 hour 43 minutes 4 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 10: Asset-Based Lending: An Asset Class or a Collection of Esoteric Collateral? with Greg Turk and Cedric Henley

Asset-based lending has come of age, but its evolution has made it challenging to put it in a homogeneous category or asset class, given its complexity and diversity of the underlying universe. From receivables and real estate to royalties and R&D, the range of collateral backing these loans raises questions about ABL's position within the broader private credit complex. In this episode, we attempt to define the history and parameters of ABL, including how loans are structured, as well as crucial due diligence and portfolio construction considerations. To help us explore these topics, we're joined by Greg Turk, Deputy CIO of Illinois Police Officers' Pension Investment Fund, and Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital Partners.

Introduction: (0:48)

Halftime: (57:12)

Guest: (1:02:45)


Guests:

  • Cedric Henley, Partner and Chief Risk Officer of Specialty Finance at SLR Capital Partners

    • Greg Turk, Deputy CIO, Head of Private Markets, Illinois Police Officers Pension Investment Fund


    Episode Sources


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3 months ago
1 hour 43 minutes 19 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 9: Is Investing in Modern China for the Intrepid or the Foolhardy with Ed Grefenstette

Despite being thousands of years old, China’s current economic and political system began to take shape only in the late 20th century, particularly following the economic reforms initiated in the late 1970s. Today, China represents one of the largest economies in the world, a breeding ground for innovation, and an exciting capital market increasingly open to foreigners. However, recent policy swings and geopolitical events have called many items into question - is China investable? Is it possible to develop a long-term view despite short-term geopolitical headwinds? And, most importantly, will the many years of progress toward economic and political pragmatism win the day? We're joined by China private capital investor pioneer, Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO of the Dietrich Foundation.


Introduction: (0:48)

Halftime: (1:20:43)

Guest: (1:28:52)


Guest:

Ed Grefenstette, CEO and CIO, The Dietrich Foundation


Episode Sources

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4 months ago
2 hours 37 minutes 24 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 8: Special Episode - What Now? The Future of Asset Management with Kevin Quirk

With the tectonic plates in trade, geopolitics, economics, and national security seemingly shifting under our feet in real time, we stepped back to talk about some of the major themes defining the future of this industry. With a lens towards the current uncertainty and risk of global regime change, we examined where our profession, and particularly private capital, is likely to evolve. No one was better equipped to guide us than Casey Quirk co-founder and current Global Head of Investor Relations at Bain, Kevin Quirk.


Introduction: (0:48)

Guest: (6:50)


Guest:

Kevin Quirk, Global Head of Investor Relations, Bain Capital


Episode Sources

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5 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 22 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 7: Is this the Golden Age of Institutional Crypto Adoption with Greg Tusar and Robert Mitchnick

After many booms, busts, and shakeouts in crypto markets, the pump seems primed for broader adoption in institutional portfolios. Are we really doing this? How might a seemingly crypto-friendly Trump Administration fuel further adoption in the largest capital market in the world? In this episode, we use history as a guide, exploring the phases of crypto adoption and wrestling with whether we're truly in a new era or if the headlines are overhyping reality. Join us and our guests, Robbie Mitchnick of BlackRock and Greg Tusar of Coinbase, to explore further.


Introduction: (0:48)

Halftime: (1:01:46)

Guests: (1:07:58)


Guests:

Greg Tusar, Head of Institutional Product, Coinbase

Robert Mitchnick, Head of Digital Assets, BlackRock


Episode Sources

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6 months ago
1 hour 51 minutes 14 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 6: Private Equity Needs a New Head of PR with Pete Stavros and Daryn Dodson

Greedy sinners or enterprising saints? The growth of private equity's influence on the economy can no longer be ignored. Like it or not, private equity's reach surrounds our daily lives and its impact on society can be felt across all sectors of the economy. In this episode, we outline a more balanced middle between the extremes of proponents and detractors and highlight two virtuous examples of how private capital is being used for social and financial good.


Introduction: (0:48)

Halftime: (46:25)

Guests: (52:13)


Guests:

Pete Stavros, Co-Head, Global Private Equity, KKR

Daryn Dodson, Founder, Managing Partner, Illumen Capital


Episode Sources

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7 months ago
1 hour 26 minutes 30 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 5: The Evolving Asset Owner - New Tools for a New Regime with Molly Murphy and Scott Chan

What do co-investments, secondaries, joint ventures, and NAV lending have in common? To some, they sound like complex investment vehicles - to us, they represent the cutting-edge tools reshaping how asset owners build portfolios. Gone are the days of relying solely on the binary choice between insourcing or outsourcing investment capabilities. Today’s institutional investors have a dynamic, customizable toolkit at their fingertips, empowering them to craft strategies that truly serve their stakeholders. Join industry leaders Scott Chan and Molly Murphy as they dive into this exciting evolution, unpack the innovative investment vehicles driving change, and discuss the challenges and opportunities in implementation.


Introduction: (0:48)

Halftime: (59:28)

Guests: (1:05:57)


Guests:

Molly Murphy, Chief Investment Officer, OCERS

Scott Chan, CFA, Chief Investment Officer, CalSTRS


Episode Sources

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8 months ago
2 hours 1 minute 57 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 4: The Urgent Rebuild - Distributing Private Capital to Wealth Clients with Shane Clifford and Doug Krupa

How does a legacy private capital partnership who has thrived solely in the institutional draw down LP ecosystem, assemble the apparatus to begin distributing those strategies to the individual investor? When client acquisition and conversations, investor sophistication, product design, culture, operational support etc. are all fundamentally different...where do they start in this overhaul? What challenges and pitfalls have they experienced along the way? What battle scars and advice can they share with others that are considering the same or in the early stages themselves. Join us as we draw a blueprint in a very applied and practical manner.


Introduction: (0:48)

Halftime: (54:00)

Guests: (59:39)


Guests:

Shane Clifford, Managing Director–Partner and Head of Global Wealth, Carlyle

Doug Krupa, Managing Director, Global Client Solutions, KKR


Episode Sources

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9 months ago
1 hour 49 minutes 55 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 3: Will Artificial Intelligence replace the Investment Professional with Martin Escobari and Dave Morehead

AI dominates headlines and investment conferences these days…often to excess.  Sensational stories like “Here’s the robot that will steal your job” and charges of “Disrupt, transform or die” fill our feeds and raise fearmongering narratives that channel Issac Asimov’s I-Robot or James Cameron’s Skynet--of course from the Terminator series.  Quant shops, hedge funds, and algorithmic trading firms have embedded AI in their models for over a decade.  But have we hit a tipping point where applications of these accelerated computing capabilities are ready to invade the more traditional asset management business?  What are those use cases and which are most promising?  And how should we think about peaceful future co-existence of the human and the machine in managing portfolios.  Martin Escobari and Dave Morehead join us to unpack this provocative topic.

Introduction (0:48)

Halftime (42:35)

Guests (50:44)


Guests:

Martin Escobari, Co-President, Managing Director, Head of Global Growth Equity, General Atlantic
Dave Morehead, Chief Investment Officer, Marketable Investments, Baylor University


Episode Sources

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10 months ago
1 hour 35 minutes 53 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 2: Multi-Strategy Investment Firms—the Future Convergence of Public and Private Offerings with Jenny Johnson and Jean Hynes

Today’s asset management business has quickly transformed into a race to build out a stable of thoroughbreds--investment strategies across a spectrum of conventional public equity and debt as well as offerings across the continuum of private capital--equity, credit, secondaries, real estate, infrastructure etc. What makes recent history particularly unique are the crossover deals from traditional managers with alternative managers.  For several decades, traditional long only mutual fund shops and institutional firms stayed in their lane and idiosyncratic, complex private capital partnerships lived in a different world---there was a peaceful co-existence and mutual exclusivity. Those distinctions and parallel worlds have evaporated.  We explore why with two of the most revered leaders in the industry and compare and contrast their different approaches to meeting this challenge.


Introduction (0:47)

Halftime (47:03)

Guests (53:15)


Guests:

Jean Hynes, CEO, Wellington Management

Jenny Johnson, CEO, Franklin Templeton


Episode Sources

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11 months ago
1 hour 41 minutes 20 seconds

Capital Decanted
S2 | Episode 1: Long-termism: The Greatest Asset in Asset Management with Sarah Williamson and Geoff Rubin

No investor claims to be short-term but in the face of the seductive siren call of the emotionally volatile markets, even the most disciplined of investors buckles at the knees.  The apparatus and systems in which we work---governance, investment policy, benchmarks, asset allocation frameworks, compensation systems along with the behavioral spiral that haunts us all in times of market trauma tend to perpetuate herd mentality.  With the help of some of the best minds on the subject, we work to define long term investing more precisely, explore the virtues of a multi-cycle horizon, and warn of the common pitfalls that so easily break our convictions. 


Introduction (0:48)

Halftime (50:00)

Guests (55:50)

Guests:

  • Geoff Rubin, Senior Managing Director and One Fund Strategist at CPP Investments
  • Sarah Williamson, Chief Executive Officer, FCLT Global

Episode Sources

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1 year ago
1 hour 47 minutes 55 seconds

Capital Decanted
Season 2 Teaser of Capital Decanted

Welcome back to season 2 of Capital Decanted… well, almost! John Bowman, CFA teases the episode and the “greatest asset in investing” – can you guess what it is? Find out on September 30!

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1 year ago
2 minutes 20 seconds

Capital Decanted
Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence. Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.