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Borderline Jurisprudence
Borderline Jurisprudence
23 episodes
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Imagine there is a podcast on hardcore philosophy and jurisprudence of international law. Imagine there are people geeky enough to be ready to talk about this non-stop. That’s right. That’s "Borderline Jurisprudence". By Başak Etkin and Kostia Gorobets.
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Imagine there is a podcast on hardcore philosophy and jurisprudence of international law. Imagine there are people geeky enough to be ready to talk about this non-stop. That’s right. That’s "Borderline Jurisprudence". By Başak Etkin and Kostia Gorobets.
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Episode 21: Hilary Charlesworth on Feminism, Textuality and Visuality in International Law

Professor Hilary Charlesworth, Harrison Moore Professor of Law and a Melbourne Laureate Professor at Melbourne Law School and judge at the International Court of Justice joins us to talk about feminism in international law and the textuality/visuality divide.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

  • Charlesworth, Hilary, Christine Chinkin, and Shelley Wright. 'Feminist Approaches to International Law' AJIL 85(4) (1991) 613-645.
  • Charlesworth, Hilary, Christine Chinkin. The Boundaries of International Law. Manchester: Manchester University Press, 2022.
  • Charlesworth, Hilary. 'The Art of International Law' Proceedings of the ASIL Annual Meeting, vol. 116 (2022) 7-24.
  • Engle Merry, Sally. Human Rights and Gender Violence: Translating International Law into Local Justice. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2006.
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2 years ago
49 minutes 35 seconds

Borderline Jurisprudence
Episode 20: Emily Jones on Posthuman Feminism and International Law

Dr Emily Jones joins us to talk about posthuman feminism in international law.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

  • Briadotti, Rose. The Posthuman (Polity, 2013).
  • Charlesworth, Hilary, Christine Chinkin and Shelley Wright. ‘Feminist Approaches to International Law’. American Journal of International Law, Vol. 85(4) (1991): 613–45.
  • Haraway, Donna. ‘A Cyborg Manifesto’, in David Bell and Barbara M. Kennedy (eds.), The Cybercultures Reader (Routledge, 2001): 291–324.
  • Jones, Emily. Feminist Theory and International Law: Posthuman Perspectives (Routledge, 2023).
  • Kulamadayil, Lyz. ‘Ableism in the College of International Lawyers: On Disabling Differences in the Professional Field’. Leiden Journal of International Law (2023).
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2 years ago
45 minutes 8 seconds

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Episode 19: Alex Green on Natural Law, Statehood and International Law

Dr Alex Green (University of York) joins us to talk about natural law and international law, and statehood.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

  • Grotius, Hugo. De Jure Belli ac Pacis, 1652.
  • Dworkin, Ronald. ''Natural' Law Revisited'. Florida Law Review 34 (1982) 165-188.
  • Lauterpacht, Hersch. 'The Grotian Tradition in International Law' BYIL 23 (I) (1946) 1-53.
  • Green, Alex. 'The Precarious Rationality of International Law: Critiquing the International Rule of Recognition' German Law Journal 22(8) (2021) 1613-1634.
  • Green, Alex. 'The Creation of States as a Cardinal Point: James Crawford's Contribution to International Legal Scholarship' AYBIL 40 (1) (2023) 67-88.
  • Waldron, Jeremy. Law and Disagreement. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1999.
  • Garnder, John. 'Legal Positivism: 5½ Myths' American Journal of Jurisprudence 46(1) (2001) 199-227.
  • Waldron, Jeremy. 'The Concept and the Rule of Law' Georgia Law Review 43(1) (2008) 1-61.
  • Green, Alex. Statehood as Political Community: International Law and the Emergence of New States, CUP (forthcoming).
  • Stewart, Melissa. 'The Cascading Consequences of Sinking States' Stanford Journal of International Law (forthcoming).
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2 years ago
1 hour 6 minutes 12 seconds

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Episode 18: Tamsin Paige on Sociology of International Law, Queerness, and Pastry

Dr Tamsin Phillipa Paige (Deakin Law School) joins us to talk about sociology of international law, queer theory, and French pâtisserie.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

  1. Paige, Tamsin. “Piracy and universal jurisdiction.” Macquarie Law Journal, 12 (2013): 131–154. 
  2. Guilfoyle, Douglas, Tamsin Paige, Rob Mclaughlin. “The Final Frontier of Cyberspace: The Seabed Beyond National Jurisdiction and the Protection of Submarine Cables.” International and Comparative Law Quarterly, 71 (2022): 657-696.
  3. Paige, Tamsin. “Petulant and Contrary: Approaches by the Permanent Five Members of the UN Security Council to the Concept of 'threat to the Peace' Under Article 39 of the UN Charter”. Deakin University, January 1, 2019.
  4. North, Claire. 84K.
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2 years ago
59 minutes 58 seconds

Borderline Jurisprudence
Bonus episode: Alejandro Chehtman on Latin America and International Law

Our first bonus episode, just in time for the holiday season!
Publications referred to in the episode:

  • Álvarez, Alejandro. 'Latin America and International Law'. The American Journal of International Law 3, no. 2 (1909): 269–353.
  • Roberts, Anthea. Is International Law International? New York: Oxford University Press, 2017.
  • Calvo, Carlos and Alcorta, Amancio. 'Polémica Calvo-Alcorta'. Nueva Revista de Buenos Aires 3, vol. 8 (1883): 629-658.
  • Bello, Andrés. Principios de derecho internacional. Valparaiso: La Patria, 1864.
  • Chehtman, Alejandro. The Philosophical Foundations of Extraterritorial Punishment. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2010
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2 years ago
22 minutes 9 seconds

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Episode 17: Alejandro Chehtman on Philosophy of War and International Crimes

Professor Alejandro Chehtman (Universidad Torcuato Di Tella) joins us to talk about revisionist just war theory, non-international armed conflicts, and crimes against humanity.

Publications referred to in the episode:

  • Greene, Joshua. Moral Tribes. London: Atlantic Books, 2015.
  • van Dijk, Boyd. Preparing for War. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2022.
  • Sands, Philippe. East West Street. London: Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 2016.
  • Haque, Adil Ahmad. Law and Morality at War. New York: Oxford University Press, 2017.
  • Scheipers, Sibylle, Unlawful Combatants: A Genealogy of the Irregular Fighter. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2015.
  • Morrow, James D. Order within Anarchy: The Laws of War as an International Institution. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2014.
  • Schweblin, Samantha. Seven Empty Houses. London: Oneworld Publications, 2022.
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2 years ago
59 minutes 59 seconds

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Episode 16: Martti Koskenniemi on Philosophy, History, and International Legal Scholarship

Professor Martti Koskenniemi (University of Helsinki) joins us to discuss philosophy and history of international law, international legal scholarship, and the Helsinki school.

Publications referred to in the episode:

  1. Koskenniemi, Martti. From Apology to Utopia: The Structure of International Legal Argument. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2006.
  2. Koskenniemi, Martti. The Gentle Civilizer of Nations: The Rise and Fall of International Law 1870–1960. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2001.
  3. Koskenniemi, Martti. To the Uttermost Parts of the Earth: Legal Imagination and International Power 1300–1870. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2021.
  4. Powers, Richard. The Overstory. New York: W.W. Norton & Co., 2018.
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2 years ago
37 minutes 27 seconds

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Episode 15: Başak Çalı on Authority, Interpretivism, and Human Rights

Professor Başak Çalı (Hertie School) joins us to talk about the authority of international law, Ronald Dworkin's interpretivism, and human rights.

Publications referred to in the episode:

  1. Çalı, Başak. The Authority of International Law: Obedience, Respect, and Rebuttal. New York: Oxford University Press, 2015.
  2. Çalı, Başak. ‘On Interpretivism and International Law’, European Journal of International Law 20, No. 3 (2009): 805–822.
  3. Dworkin, Ronald. ‘A New Philosophy for International Law’. Philosophy & Public Affairs 41, no. 1 (2013): 2–30 (posthumous).
  4. Gorobets, Kostiantyn. ‘Solidarity as a Practical Reason: Grounding the Authority of International Law’. Netherlands International Law Review 69, no. 1 (2022): 3–27.

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2 years ago
52 minutes 48 seconds

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Special episode "Joseph Raz and International Law: An Unfinished Journey"
Joseph Raz was one of the most influential legal and political  philosophers who ever lived, and his passing in May 2022 marked the end  of an epoch. The breadth and depth of his philosophical legacy is  unmatched, and yet, unlike many influential legal philosophers (such as  HLA Hart or Hans Kelsen), Raz left very few writings that deal with  jurisprudential questions of international law. Why is that? And how can  we draw on Raz’s ideas about human rights, the concept of a legal  system, authority, normativity, and so on, to enrich the philosophy of  international law? Speakers Samantha Besson, Collège de France Başak Çalı, Hertie School Başak Etkin (moderator), Université Paris 2 Panthéon-Assas Kostia Gorobets, University of Groningen Adil Haque (moderator), Rutgers University Miodrag Jovanović, University of Belgrade This episode was recorded during the event co-organized with ASIL’s International Legal Theory Interest Group.
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2 years ago
1 hour 33 minutes 2 seconds

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Episode 14: Jean d'Aspremont on Forms and Meaning in International Law

Professor Jean d'Aspremont (University of Manchester and Sciences Po Paris) joins us to discuss his overall scholarship and his latest book After Meaning. 

Publications referred to in the episode:

Jean d’Aspremont, Formalism and the Sources of International Law: A Theory of the Ascertainment of Legal Rules (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2011).

Jean d’Aspremont, Epistemic Forces in International Law (Cheltenham: Edward Elgar, 2015).

Jean d’Aspremont, International Law as a Belief System (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2017).

Jean d’Aspremont, The Discourse on Customary International Law (New York: Oxford University Press, 2021).

Jean d’Aspremont, After Meaning: The Sovereignty of Forms in International Law (Cheltenham: Edward Elgar, 2021).

Alasdair MacIntyre, After Virtue: A Study in Moral Theory (Notre Dame: University of Notre Dame Press, 1981).

Jacques Derrida, The Beast and the Sovereign (Chicago: Univerity of Chicago Press, 2009).

George Steiner, Errata: An Examined Life (New Havean: Yale University Press, 1999).

Jacques Derrida, Le monolinguisme de l'autre (Paris: Galilée, 1996).

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3 years ago
55 minutes 10 seconds

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Episode 13: Francesca Iurlaro on Jus Gentium

Francesca Iurlaro, Alexander von Humboldt postdoctoral researcher at Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law, joins us to discuss jus gentium, the history of customary international law, Gentili, historiography and hope.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

Francesca Iurlaro, The Invention of Custom, Natural Law and the Law of Nations, ca. 1550-1750 (Oxford: Oxford University Press, forthcoming).

Martti Koskenniemi, To the Uttermost Parts of the Earth, Legal Imagination and International Power 1300-1870 (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2021).

Francesca Iurlaro, “Disenchanting Gentili: Chapter 3: Italian Lessons. Ius Gentium and Reason of States”, European Journal of International Law 32, no. 3 (2021): 965–72.

Francesca Iurlaro, “Between Authority and (In)Authenticity: How Literary Canons Shaped Jus Gentium”, Leiden Journal of International Law, forthcoming.

Christopher N. Warren, Literature and the Law of Nations, 1580-1680 (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2015).

Bernard Williams, Truth & Truthfulness: An Essay in Genealogy (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2004).

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3 years ago
45 minutes 58 seconds

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Episode 12: Ingo Venzke on International Law and Semantic Authority

Dr. Ingo Venzke, Professor of Public International Law at the University of Amsterdam, joins us to talk about semantics in international law, semantic authority, and struggle for meaning.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

Ingo Venzke, How Interpretation Makes International Law: On Semantic Change and Normative Twists (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2012).

Hans Kelsen, General Theory of Norms (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1991).

Joseph Raz, Morality of Freedom (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1986).

Joseph Raz, ‘The Problem of Authority: Revisiting the Service Conception’, Minnesota Law Review 90 (2006): 1003–44.

Rudolf von Jhering, The Struggle for Law (Chicago: Callaghan and Company, 1915).

Ingo Venzke and Kevin Jon Heller (eds.), Contingency in International Law: On the Possibility of Different Legal Histories (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2021).

Robert Brandom, Making it Explicit: Reasoning, Representing, and Discursive Commitment (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1998).

Ronald Dworkin, Law's Empire (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1986).

Mohammed Bedjaoui, Towards a New International Economic Order (New York: Holmes & Meier, 1979).

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3 years ago
31 minutes 16 seconds

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Episode 11: Umut Özsu on International Law and Marxism

Professor Umut Özsu, Associate Professor at Carleton University, joins us to talk about Marxism and international law, but also history and theory more generally.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

Martti Koskenniemi, The Gentle Civilizer of Nations - The Rise and Fall of International Law 1870-1960 (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2001).

Anthony Anghie, Imperialism, Sovereignty and the Making of International Law (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2005).

Paul O’Connell and Umut Özsu (eds), Research Handbook on Law and Marxism (Cheltenham: Edward Elgar, 2021).

Umut Özsu, Completing Humanity: The International Law of Decolonization (book manuscript under contract with Cambridge University Press, forthcoming in 2022).

Oscar Schachter, “Towards a Theory of International Obligation”, Virginia Journal of International Law 8, no. 2 (1968): 300-22.

Karl Marx, Capital, Volume I (trans. Ben Fowkes) (London: Penguin Books, 1990 [1867]).

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3 years ago
51 minutes 22 seconds

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Episode 10: Anne Orford on International Law and History

Professor Anne Orford, Melbourne Laureate Professor and Michael D Kirby Chair of International Law at Melbourne Law School, joins us to discuss history and international law, and her new book International Law and the Politics of History.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

Anne Orford, International Law and the Politics of History (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2021).

Anne Orford, Florian Hoffman and Martin Clark (eds), The Oxford Handbook of the Theory of International Law (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2016).

Anne Orford, “In Praise of Description”, Leiden Journal of International Law 25, no. 3 (2012): 609–25. 

Pierre Schlag, “A Brief Survey of Deconstruction”, Cardozo Law Review 27, no. 2 (2005): 741–52. 

Amia Srinivasan, “Genealogy, Epistemology and Worldmaking”, Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society CXIX, no. 2 (2019): 127–56. 

Annalise Riles, “Legal Amateurism”, Cornell Legal Studies Research Paper no. 16-41. 

Oliver Wendell Holmes, “The Path of Law”, Harvard Law Review 10 (1897): 457–97. 

Duncan Kennedy, “The Hermeneutic of Suspicion in Contemporary American Legal Thought”, Law and Critique 25 (2014): 91–139. 

Onuma Yasuaki, “When was the Law of International Society Born?”, Journal of the History of International Law 2 (2000): 1–66. 

Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, “Paranoid Reading and Reparative Reading; or, You’re So Paranoid, You Probably Think This Introduction is About You” in Touching Feeling (Durham: Duke University Press, 2003), 123–52.

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3 years ago
54 minutes 33 seconds

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Episode 9: Harlan Cohen on Sources of International Law

Prof. Harlan G. Cohen (University of Georgia) joins us to talk about sources of international law, precedent, opinio juris, fragmentation, pluralism and behavioural approaches to international law.

Publications referred to in the episode:

Harlan G. Cohen, “The Primitive Lawyer Speaks!: Thoughts on the Concepts of International and Rabbinic Laws”, Villanova Law Review 64, no. 5 (2020): 665–678.

Emanuel Adler, Communitarian International Relations: The epistemic foundations of International Relations (London: Routledge, 2005).

Harlan G. Cohen, “Finding International Law: Rethinking the Doctrine of Sources”, Iowa Law Review 93, no. 1 (2007): 65–129.

Harlan G. Cohen, “Finding International Law, Part II: Our Fragmenting Legal Community”, New York University Journal of International Law & Politics 44 (2012): 1050–1107.

Harlan G. Cohen and Timothy Meyer (eds), International Law as Behaviour (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2021).

Chaim N. Saiman, Halakhah: The Rabbinic Idea of Law (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2018).

Robert Cover, Justice Accused: Antislavery and the Judicial Process (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1975).

Robert Cover, “Violence and the Word”, Yale Law Journal 95 (1986): 1601–1629.

Robert Cover, “The Supreme Court, 1982 Term—Foreword: Nomos and Narrative”, Harvard Law Review 97 (1983): 4-68.

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3 years ago
52 minutes 34 seconds

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Episode 8: Carmen Pavel on International Law and Political Philosophy

Dr. Carmen Pavel (King's College London) joins us to talk about political philosophy of international law, global consitutionalism, the international rule of law, and her new book Law beyond the State: Dynamic Coordination, State Consent, and Binding International Law.

Publications referred to in the episode:

Carmen E. Pavel, Law beyond the State: Dynamic Coordination, State Consent, and Binding International Law (New York: Oxford University Press, 2021).

Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan, or the Matter, Forme, & Power of a Common-wealth Ecclesiasticall and Civill (London, 1651).

David Hume, A treatise of Human Nature; Being an Attempt to Introduce the Experimental Method of Reasoning into Moral Subjects; and Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion (London, 1898).

Judith Butler, The Force of Nonviolence: An Ethico-Political Bind (London: Verso, 2021).

Jeremy Waldron, “Are Sovereigns Entitled to the Benefit of the International Rule of Law?” European Journal of International Law 22, no. 2 (2011): 315–43.

David Lefkowitz, Philosophy and International Law: A Critical Introduction (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2020).

Carmen Pavel, Divided Sovereignty: International Institutions and the Limits of State Authority (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2014).

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3 years ago
47 minutes 29 seconds

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Episode 7: Panos Merkouris on Interpretation of Customary International Law

Panos Merkouris (University of Groningen) joins us to talk about his ERC project TRICI-Law that focuses on interpretation of customary international law. TRICI-Law's website: https://trici-law.com

Publications mentioned in the episode: 

Merkouris, Panos. Article 31(3)(c) VCLT and the Principle of Systemic Integration, Normative Shadows in Plato's Cave, Leiden: Brill Nijhoff, 2015.

Peter Haggenmacher,  “La  doctrine  des  deux  éléments  du  droit  coutumier  dans  la  pratique  de  la  Cour  internationale”,  Revue Générale de Droit International Public 90 (1986): 5–125.

Monica Hakimi, “Making Sense of Customary International Law”, Michigan Law Review 118, no. 8 (2020): 1487–1538. 

Sur, Serge. “La créativité du droit international”, in Collected Courses of the Hague Academy of International Law, vol. 363, 2013.

Whitehead, Alfred North and Russell, Bertrand. Principia Mathematica, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1910.

Neil Gaiman, The Sandman (comic book). 

Christos Kithreotis (Χρίστος Κυθρεώτης), Ekei Pou Zoume (Εκεί Που Ζούμε), Athens: Patakis (Εκδόσεις Πατάκη), 2019.

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3 years ago
53 minutes 32 seconds

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Episode 6: Andreas Hadjigeorgiou on the Oxford Jurisprudence Circle and International Law

Andreas Hadjigeorgiou, special teaching stuff at the Frederick University Cyprus, joins us to discuss the forgotten legacy of the Oxford Jurisprudence Circle and its relevance for international law. Click here for Andreas' SSRN page.

If you are interested, you can request Andreas' PhD thesis or read the summary here:

Hadjigeorgiou, Andreas. ‘Hart and the Oxford Jurisprudence Circle: Rediscovering the Lost Legacy of Customary Law’. Doctoral dissertation, University of Groningen, 2020.

Publications mentioned in the episode:

Hart, H.L.A. The Concept of Law. 3rd edn. Oxford: Oxford Univeristy Press, 2012.

Simpson, A. W. Brian. Reflections on 'The Concept of Law'. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2011.

Lacey, Nicola. A Life of H.L.A. Hart: The Nightmare and the Noble Dream. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2006.

Tamanaha, Brian Z. A Realistic Theory of Law. New York: Cambridge University Press, 2017.

Maine, Henry Summer. Popular Government. Indianapolis: Liberty Classics, 1976.

Maine, Henry Summer. Ancient Law: Its Connection with the Early History of Society and Its Relation to Modern Ideas. London: John Murray, 1861.

Malinowski, Bronislaw. Crime and Custom in Savage Society. London: K. Paul, Trench, Trubner & co., ltd., 1926.

Llewellyn, Karl. Cheyenne Way: Conflict and Case Law in Primitive Jurisprudence. Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 1941.

Allen, Carleton K. Law in the Making. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1927.

Postema, Gerald J. 'Implicit Law', Law and Philosophy 13 (1994): 361–387.

Carty, Anthony. Philosophy of International Law. Edinburgh University Press, 2007.

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3 years ago
39 minutes 43 seconds

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Episode 5: Scott Shapiro on Everything

Scott J. Shapiro, Charles F. Southmayd Professor of Law and Professor of Philosophy at Yale Law School, joins us to talk about well, everything, including planning theory of law, outcasting and more. Click here for Scott Shapiro's podcast 'Jurisprudence'.

Publications referred to in the episode:

Oona A. Hathaway and Scott J. Shapiro, The Internationalists: How A Radical Plan to Outlaw War Remade the World (New York: Simon and Schuster, 2017).

Oona Hathaway and Scott J Shapiro, ‘Outcasting: Enforcement in Domestic and International Law’, Yale Law Journal 121 (2011): 252–349.

Scott J. Shapiro, Legality (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2011).

Michael Bratman, Intention, Plans, and Practical Reason (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1987).

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4 years ago
56 minutes 54 seconds

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Episode 4: Monica Hakimi on International Legal Positivism and Formalism

Monica Hakimi (University of Michigan) joins us to talk about flaws of international legal positivism, interplay between formal and informal law, and customary international law.

Publications referred to in the episode:

Jutta Brunnée and Stephen J. Toope, Legitimacy and Legality in International Law: An Interactional Account (New York: Cambridge University Press, 2010).

Monica Hakimi, ‘The Jus ad Bellum’s Regulatory Form’, American Journal of International Law 112, no. 2 (2018): 151–90.

Monica Hakimi, ‘Making Sense of Customary International Law’, Michigan Law Review 118, no. 8 (2020): 1487–1538.

Don Herzog, Sovereignty, RIP (New Heaven: Yale University Press, 2020).

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4 years ago
33 minutes 10 seconds

Borderline Jurisprudence
Imagine there is a podcast on hardcore philosophy and jurisprudence of international law. Imagine there are people geeky enough to be ready to talk about this non-stop. That’s right. That’s "Borderline Jurisprudence". By Başak Etkin and Kostia Gorobets.