Abhishek Kumar, co-founder and CEO of Catalysis, joins to discuss why onchain risk coverage is the missing piece for institutional DeFi. From staking and shared security to programmable insurance pools, Catalysis is building infrastructure that transforms billions in restaked capital into active protection for lending markets, stablecoins, and real-world assets. We cover Abhi’s journey from Ethereum protocol development to launching Catalysis, the pivot from SDK tooling to institutional-grade insurance, and why institutions won’t move serious capital onchain without coverage.
Topics discussed in this episode:
(0:00) Introduction
(2:32) Rapid Fire: Hot Takes & Hard Lessons
(5:36)From Web2 to Ethereum Core to Founder Mode
(12:01) The Pivot: From SDKs to Onchain Insurance
(21:43) How Cover Pools Actually Work
(33:04) Infra vs Frameworks vs Apps: Where Crypto Builders Should Play
(41:48) Evolving Views about the space
This episode features guest Abhishek Kumar, Founder and CEO at Catalysis Network, https://x.com/xenowits
Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth https://x.com/roth_edgar and is presented by Symbiotic:
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The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."
Carson Brown, Senior Product Manager at Gauntlet, breaks down how risk really works in DeFi. From the evolution of shared security to the rise of risk curation, he explains why liquidity concentration is more dangerous than people think, why institutions may have lower risk appetite than expected, and how stablecoins and incentives are reshaping the space. This episode is a deep dive into the future of restaking, insurance protocols, and the role of risk managers in keeping DeFi sustainable.
Topics discussed in this episode:
- 00:00 — Introduction
- 03:35 — Rapid Fire Q&A
- 05:05 — Carson’s Path into Crypto
- 09:03 — Inside Gauntlet’s Restaking Team
- 16:27 — The Overlooked Risk Metric
- 24:34 — Would TVL Survive Without Incentives?
- 27:26 — Evolution of Shared Security
- 37:07 — Stablecoin Staking Insights
- 46:10 — Balancing Growth and Trust
This episode features guest Carson Brown, Senior Product Manager at Gauntlet, https://x.com/carsonmbrown
Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth https://x.com/roth_edgar and is presented by Symbiotic:
- Website: https://symbiotic.fi/
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/symbioticfiofficial
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi
The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."
Sam McPherson, co-founder of Phoenix Labs and Spark Protocol, explores the future of stablecoins, Spark’s role as DeFi’s liquidity layer, and how billions in capital are being allocated across DeFi, TradFi, and centralized markets. The conversation covers Spark’s evolution from lending markets to the liquidity layer, the role of Sky and its subDAOs, stablecoins as the black hole pulling TradFi on-chain, and how Symbiotic staking strengthens Spark’s security. We also discuss why yield-bearing stablecoins may define the next decade of crypto.Topics discussed in this episode:- 00:00 — Introduction- 09:28 — Evolution of Stablecoins- 13:11 — Capital Allocation on Spark- 17:42 — Rewards vs. Risk: Finding the balance- 20:56 — The link between Sky and Spark- 34:42 — TGE Advice for Founders- 36:57 — Competition in the Stablecoin market- 46:11 — Is there room for more Stablecoins?
Dmitry Gusakov, tech lead for community staking at Lido, joins the Blueprints Podcast to unpack the future of Ethereum staking. We dive into why Lido became the dominant staking protocol, the evolution of decentralization, and how the Community Staking Module empowers home stakers. Dmitr also breaks down Lido V3 and why institutions and solo validators both matter for Ethereum’s resilience.
Topics discussed in this episode:
- 04:04 — Dmitry's Story
- 12:47 — Incentives Driven Market
- 16:16 — Lido Hurting Ethereum’s Decentralization?
- 18:19 — Opening to Unlimited Validators
- 23:17 — Ethereum’s Evolution
- 32:15 — CSM v1 to v2- Design changes
- 47:08 — Can Ethereum Decentralize all layers?
- 53:29 — Lido V3 Explained
This episode features guest Dmitry Gusakov, Tech Lead, Lido Finance https://x.com/d_gusakov
Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth https://x.com/roth_edgar and is presented by Symbiotic:
- Website: https://symbiotic.fi/
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/symbioticfiofficial
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi
The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."
Benjamin Sarquis Peillard, founder of Cap, explains the evolution of stablecoin models—Types 1 and 2—and how Cap is developing a yield-bearing Type 3 stablecoin with verifiable guarantees on Symbiotic. He explores the shortcomings of traditional yield-generating stablecoins, the risks of unchecked token incentives, and how Cap leverages Symbiotic's redistribution mechanism to create a fundamentally safer design. This episode examines Cap's role in connecting traditional finance and DeFi, reveals why institutional players often understand DeFi better than most VCs, and discusses the future landscape of risk and yield in a multi-chain, multi-stablecoin ecosystem.
Topics discussed in this episode:
- 06:38 — Money Flow in Cap
- 09:39 — Building on New Crypto Tech
- 13:46 — TradFi x DeFi Bridge
- 18:44 — Vault Curators' Role
- 24:07 — LRTs Playing Safe
- 29:11 — MEGAETH
- 31:43 — Regulatory Clarity & Innovation
This episode features guest Benjamin Sarquis Peillard, Founder & CEO, Cap Labs https://x.com/Benjamin918_
Blueprints is hosted by Edgar Roth https://x.com/roth_edgar and is presented by Symbiotic:
- Website: https://symbiotic.fi/
- X: https://x.com/symbioticfi
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/symbioticfiofficial
- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/officialsymbioticfi
- Blog: https://blog.symbiotic.fi
The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions."
Hyperlane CEO Jon Kol breaks down why today’s crypto needs more than just rollups and bridges. Jon shares how personal frustration with banks fueled his mission, how working at Galaxy gave him the on-chain perspective, and why modularity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s a design principle. From launching Hyperlane to challenging the closed, permissioned status quo, Jon lays out a clear vision for a chain-rich, interoperable crypto ecosystem.
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This episode features guest Jon Kol, CEO of Hyperlane.
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The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast producers, partners or sponsors. Cryptocurrency and digital asset investments are highly volatile and carry risk. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions.
The infrastructure behind crypto's most ambitious projects doesn't build itself. Blueprints goes beyond the hype to explore the real stories of founders reshaping decentralized systems, from universal staking protocols to data availability networks to the next generation of blockchain infrastructure. Hosted by Edgar Roth of Symbiotic, each episode dives into the technical decisions, strategic pivots, and hard-won lessons that define how crypto infrastructure actually gets built.