In this episode, Keone from Monad and Zon from Initia to discuss the spectrum between modular and integrated blockchain designs. They explore the tradeoffs in decentralization, performance and scalability between the two approaches. They explore AppChains, rollups, composability challenges in modular systems, EVM compatibility, and when to scale blockchains horizontally vs vertically. To close out Keone and Zon also share valuable insights on building Web3 communities organically. Thanks for tuning in! - - Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Follow Zon: https://x.com/ItsAlwaysZonny Follow Keone: https://x.com/keoneHD Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:01) Modular vs Integrated (11:24) Who are Appchains for? (28:35) Composability in Modular World (35:52) Monad's Endgame (39:24) Importance of Decentralization (47:42) Building Web3 Community - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Max Hillebrand is the CEO of ckSNACKs - the company that sponsors the development of the Wasabi Wallet. He describes himself as a "free software entrepreneur building Bitcoin weapons." On this episode we explore exactly what that means; where philosophy and ethics meet entrepreneurship; the state of bitcoin privacy; and what's left to build on Bitcoin. Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

NLW covers the major stories in Bitcoin over the past couple weeks, including: Nomura Bitcoin Adoption Fund Block Saturation New Miner policy group Mt. Gox delay Coinbase to implement Lightning Swan launching Bitcoin custody Deutsche custody offering Paxos fat finger Hal Finney's ZK talk Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

Jesse Shrader is the cofounder of Amboss, a Lightning Network analytics platforms and decentralized liquidity marketplace. This week the company released its new Hydro product for automated liquidity provisioning for companies that want to use Bitcoin without having to get deep into node management. Check out our guest online: https://twitter.com/Jestopher_BTC Amboss: https://amboss.space/ Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

On today's episode of Bitcoin Builders, NLW speaks with 21.co co-founder and CEO Hany Amin. 21.co was the earliest company to offer a crypto exchange traded product all the way back in 2018, and has spent the last five years observing and serving institutional and traditional market actors in the space. In this interview, he and NLW discuss the ways in which this bear market has (or hasn't) changed institutional attitudes towards the industry. Find our guest online: https://twitter.com/hany // https://21.co/ Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

Another week another righteous debate within Bitcoin. This time though, it's more than just some Twitter squabbling. On this episode of Bitcoin Builders, NLW provides a primer on the debate around BIP300 and drivechains, which in many ways is a debate around the boundaries of bitcoin use itself. Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

On this edition of Bitcoin Builders Weekly Recap, NLW looks at the debate around Ordinals. Are they dead, or have rumors of their demise been greatly exaggerated? Also an update on a mysterious Bitcoin whale. Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

Lisa Neigut (aka @NiftyNei) is a Lightning Protocol Engineer at Blockstream and co-founder at Base58, the Bitcoin protocol academy. https://twitter.com/niftynei George Kaloudis is a writer, columnist and host of CoinDesk's Markets Daily. https://twitter.com/gckaloudis In this conversation, NLW, George and Nifty discuss Base58, Lightning development, Bitcoin education, and much much more. More links for our guests: Base58 website: https://base58.school Upcoming Taproot classs! apply now: https://base58.school/classes/taproot Base58 Twitter: https://twitter.com/base58btc Bitcoin++, technical conference: https://btcpp.dev Bitcoin++ Youtube: https://youtube.com/@btcplusplus Markets Daily: https://www.coindesk.com/podcasts/markets-daily/ Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

A reading of three pieces: Bitcoiners Must Appeal to America's Increasingly Independent Voters - Robert Hall Bitcoin Venture Capital is Anything But Boring - Christopher Calicott Bitcoin and AI - Swan Signal Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  WOLF Cohort 3 Applications Now Open!! https://wolfnyc.com/apply Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

On this edition of Bitcoin Builders weekly breakdown: Gensler ETF comments Grayscale sabotaging ETF applications? Blackrock portfolio construction paper Binance turns on Lightning Mining hardware costs coming down Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  WOLF Cohort 3 Applications Now Open!! https://wolfnyc.com/apply Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

Glassnode's James Check returns for an extensive on-chain analysis of the Bitcoin cycle. He and NLW talk shrimp accumulation, miner distribution, s2f and more! Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  WOLF Cohort 3 Applications Now Open!! https://wolfnyc.com/apply Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

Today NLW is joined by Sazmining President and COO Kent Halliburton. NLW and Kent talk about his journey from rooftop solar to Bitcoin, Sazmining's goals to create a bitcoin native way to stack sats, and the process of opening a mining facility in Paraguay. Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  WOLF Cohort 3 Applications Now Open!! https://wolfnyc.com/apply Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

NLW provides an overview of the last couple weeks of Bitcoin news, including institutional and ETF announcements, mining revenue trends and more. The big discussion of the episode surrounds the BlackRock BTC spot ETF proposal, and whether it's good, bad, or neutral for Bitcoin.  Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

This week, Bitcoin Builders presents its Summer Startup Series, profiling companies from the first accelerator cohort from In Wolf's Clothing https://wolfnyc.com/ On the third episode, NLW talks with Evan Kaloudis of Zeus, an open-source, non-custodial Bitcoin wallet. They discuss Evan and Zeus' journey and where Bitcoin UI and infrastructure need to go from here.  Check out Zeus: https://twitter.com/ZeusLN Follow Evan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/evankaloudis Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  WOLF Cohort 3 Applications Now Open!! https://wolfnyc.com/apply Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight  

This week, Bitcoin Builders presents its Summer Startup Series, profiling companies from the first accelerator cohort from In Wolf's Clothing https://wolfnyc.com/ Today on the second episode of the Summer Startup Series, NLW interviews Philipp Hoenisch from 10101, an app that promises bitcoin trading without counterparty risk. 10101 was part of In Wolf's Clothing's first startup cohort.  Check out 10101: https://10101.finance/ Follow Philipp on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bonomat Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight  

This week, Bitcoin Builders presents its Summer Startup Series, profiling companies from the first accelerator cohort from In Wolf's Clothing https://wolfnyc.com/ Today we're talking with Neil Woodfine, CEO of Dustup, a new Bitcoin-powered platform that helps battle royale tournament organizers. We talk about what Neil has learned over more than a half decade building Bitcoin startups and why Bitcoin is the perfect currency for global gaming.  Check out Dustup: https://www.dustup.gg/ Follow Neil on Twitter: https://twitter.com/nwoodfine Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight  

A reading of Bitcoin Graffiti's "The Secrets of the S Curve: Why Bitcoin Adoption Takes Longer Than You Think"   Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

Harry Sudock is the CSO at GRIID and a partner at Bitcoin Park. In this episode of Bitcoin Builders, he and NLW discuss how the mining industry evolved over the last bullmarket, and how the business side of the sector has adapted during the bear market. They also discuss Bitcoin community.  Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

On Bitcoin Builders Weekly Recap, NLW tries to cut through the noise to ask what the real implications of this week's spate of SEC lawsuits against crypto exchanges means for Bitcoin and the people who build on it.  Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight

For the last few months, Bitcoiners have been one of the most active communities on Nostr, a new decentralized protocol that can be used to build applications like social media alternatives. On this episode, Ego Death Capital investor Andi Pitt provides a primer and overview on Nostr, as well as a clear-eyed discussion about its potential to displace centralized apps like Twitter. Thanks to our sponsor: In Wolf's Clothing // Wolf is the first startup accelerator focused exclusively on Bitcoin and Lightning // Learn more at wolfnyc.com  Bitcoin Builders is produced and hosted by Nathaniel Whittemore. Lead researcher is Scott Hill. Edited by Kyle Barbour-Hoffman. Images by Midjourney. Theme music is "Everybody Dance" by True Ripper, licensed via Track Club. Ad music is "Easy's First Tiger" by Bossfight