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Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Jeremy Utley & Henrik Werdelin
42 episodes
3 days ago
Beyond the Prompt dives deep into the world of AI and its expanding impact on business and daily work. Hosted by Jeremy Utley of Stanford's d.school, alongside Henrik Werdelin, an entrepreneur known for starting BarkBox, prehype and other startups, each episode features conversations with innovators and leaders to uncover pragmatic stories of how organizations leverage AI to accelerate success. Learn creative strategies and actionable tactics you can apply right away as AI capabilities advance exponentially.
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Beyond the Prompt dives deep into the world of AI and its expanding impact on business and daily work. Hosted by Jeremy Utley of Stanford's d.school, alongside Henrik Werdelin, an entrepreneur known for starting BarkBox, prehype and other startups, each episode features conversations with innovators and leaders to uncover pragmatic stories of how organizations leverage AI to accelerate success. Learn creative strategies and actionable tactics you can apply right away as AI capabilities advance exponentially.
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Entrepreneurship
Education,
Business,
Management,
How To
Episodes (20/42)
Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Inside Zapier’s Code Red: How CEO Wade Foster Hit Pause to Reinvent for AI
When Zapier called a “code red” on AI, it marked a turning point for the company. In this episode, co-founder and CEO Wade Foster shares what that urgency looked like in practice, how it reshaped priorities, and why changing culture is harder than shipping new features. From rewarding experimentation to building curiosity into the organization, Wade offers a candid look at leading through AI’s rapid rise and making adoption stick.
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2 days ago
1 hour 7 minutes 46 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Can AI Replace Me? Evan Ratliff on Letting an AI Clone Live His Life
What happens when your AI clone starts answering phone calls for you—even with your friends and family? In this episode, journalist Evan Ratliff shares the story behind Shell Game, a six-part podcast exploring the unsettling, often absurd world of voice cloning and identity. From real-time scam baiting to AI therapy, Evan walks us through his experiment building and deploying a voice agent that sounded just like him—and what it revealed about technology, trust, and the future of being human.
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2 weeks ago
58 minutes 11 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
How the Chief Creative Officer of an Award-Winning Ad Agency Prompts the Perfect Pitch
When Jeff Benjamin hits a creative wall, he doesn’t call a meeting—he calls ChatGPT. In this episode, the Global CCO of Tombras shares how AI helps him fight self-doubt, build creative momentum, and get ideas moving again.
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1 month ago
42 minutes 13 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Chief of Staff for the Masses: How Meta’s Joshua To Designs Wearables with AI
What if the future of AI wasn’t louder, but more considerate? Joshua To, VP of Product Design at Meta, shares how empathy—not just intelligence—is shaping the next generation of wearables. From AR glasses to audio interfaces, he unpacks what it means to design for context, not attention—and why AI might finally deliver on the promise of invisible tech that just works.
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1 month ago
1 hour 37 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
The AI Implementation Audit: What Section’s CEO Learned in 18 Months
Greg Shove, CEO of Section and founder of Machine and Partners, returns with a candid and provocative take on AI’s next wave. From real-time AI coaching to business model shakeups, Greg unpacks why the real disruption isn’t the tech—it’s what comes after. He talks deflation, job loss, and why being in the “AI class” won’t save you anymore.
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1 month ago
1 hour 8 minutes 27 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Rebuilding from Inside: How John Waldmann Led an AI Shift Without Breaking His Team
What happens when a 10-year-old SaaS company blows up its roadmap and rebuilds itself around AI—from culture to code? In this episode, John Waldmann, Founder and CEO of Homebase, shares exactly how and why they did it. Homebase, a platform serving over 150,000 local businesses, has shifted from traditional development to a radically faster, prototype-driven approach powered by AI. But this isn’t just about new tools—it’s about reshaping the DNA of an entire organization. We explore how Homebase went from 20-page PRDs to live demos, why John had to reclaim product leadership to drive change, and what it means to push employees—gently or not—into their "oh shit" moment with AI. John opens up about the cultural friction, the leadership reckoning, and the tactical moves that made AI real across the company—from engineering to customer support. Plus, we zoom out: what does this transformation mean for small businesses, the future of SaaS, and how AI can actually bring teams closer to the humans they serve? Along the way, we dive into the tension between speed and craftsmanship, the underrated power of vertical software, and why inaction might be the most dangerous leadership choice of all. If you’re navigating an AI shift inside your company—or trying to figure out how to lead your team through one—this conversation is packed with battle-tested insight, hard-earned lessons, and a whole lot of real talk.
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2 months ago
52 minutes 29 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Why HR not CTOs Will Lead AI Augmentation - with Joshua Wöhle
In this episode, Joshua Wöhle, co-founder and CEO of Mindstone, joins us to explore how organizations—and individuals—can move beyond basic AI automation to truly augment their thinking and workflows. Joshua shares his personal systems for spotting high-leverage automation opportunities, including his weekly rituals that keep him ahead in the fast-evolving AI landscape. We dive into how Joshua uses AI as a thinking partner, from critiquing sales emails to shaping company strategy—illustrating that AI isn't just about doing things faster, but about doing them better. He breaks down the concept of the utility threshold, explains why iteration is key to unlocking AI’s value, and reveals how non-technical teams can build bespoke internal tools without writing a single line of code. The conversation also highlights why HR—not IT—is the real power player in driving AI adoption, and how the shift from traditional SaaS to custom-built solutions is reshaping the future of work. Plus, Joshua reflects on his entrepreneurial journey—from scaling a 200-person company to running a lean, AI-augmented team at Mindstone. Whether you're curious about turning AI into your strategic ally, or wondering how to help your organization embrace AI beyond the buzzwords, this episode is packed with practical insights, mindset shifts, and a glimpse into what’s next in AI-powered productivity.
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2 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 10 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
What AI Can't Replace – How The Atlantic Deals with Disruption
In this episode, Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, offers a sweeping and deeply personal exploration of how AI is reshaping creativity, leadership, and human connection. From his daily video series The Most Interesting Thing in Tech to his marathon training powered by ChatGPT, Nicholas shares how he integrates AI into both work and life—not just as a tool, but as a thought partner. He reflects on the emotional complexity of AI relationships, the tension between cognitive augmentation and cognitive offloading, and what it means to preserve our “unwired” intelligence in an increasingly automated world. The conversation ventures into leadership during disruption, the ethics of AI-generated content, and the future of journalism in a world where agents may consume your content on your behalf. Nicholas also shares how he's cultivating third spaces, building muscle memory for analog thinking, and encouraging experimentation across his team—all while preparing for an uncertain future where imagination, not automation, might be our greatest asset. Whether you're a tech-savvy leader, a content creator, or just trying to stay grounded in the age of generative AI, this episode is full of honest reflections and hard-earned insights on how to navigate what’s next.
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3 months ago
1 hour 45 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Prompting for Originality: How Devin McNulty Is AI-Enabling His Workshop Business
In this episode, Devin McNulty, founder of Funmentum Labs and creator of Funware, joins us to explore what happens when you treat fun not as fluff—but as a powerful lever for doing serious work. After 15 years of leading high-stakes strategy and innovation workshops for Fortune 500 teams, Devin set out to scale his approach. The result: Funware, an AI-powered facilitation tool that helps hybrid teams run faster, more creative workshops—without needing a pro facilitator in the room. He shares how it works: from AI that rephrases vague challenges into crisp prompts, to bots that throw out just-bad-enough ideas to unlock new thinking. We dive into the deep end of design choices—why Devin treats AI like a co-facilitator, not a thought partner, and how he builds in levity and timing to shift posture in skeptical rooms. He talks about “pre-training” AI the same way you’d brief a human teammate, and what it means to productize your own facilitation brain. The conversation is also a blueprint for AI-first entrepreneurship: how to turn creative intuition into software, how to build with (and not for) users, and how to design tools that spark real interaction—not just outputs. Whether you're leading workshops, building internal tools, or trying to make your team more idea-generative, this episode is packed with insights on creative AI, team dynamics, and the future of facilitation.
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3 months ago
55 minutes 50 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
How Mihir Shukla Is Reimagining Work With 300 Million AI Agents (and Counting)
In this episode, Mihir Shukla, CEO and Chairman of Automation Anywhere, shares what it takes to build an autonomous enterprise—where AI doesn’t just assist work, but actually does it. With over 300 million AI agents already running on their platform, Mihir argues the future of work isn’t ahead of us—it’s unfolding now. We explore how Automation Anywhere is reimagining its own operations, automating everything from tax to customer service, and how other companies can do the same. Mihir shares a playbook for identifying high-impact automation opportunities and overcoming the cultural inertia that holds teams back. The conversation also zooms out: from the global productivity crisis and shrinking workforce to the ethical responsibility of upskilling at scale. Mihir shares powerful stories from communities that went from minimum wage to six-figure AI careers in just months—and reminds us what’s at stake if we don’t move fast. If you’re rethinking how work gets done, this episode is a blueprint for what’s possible.
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4 months ago
48 minutes 47 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Eric Porres is Rewiring Logitech’s Org for the AI Age. First; he trained 800 people himself.
In this episode, Eric Porres, the newly appointed Global Head of AI at Logitech, walks us through his mission to transform a 7,000-person organization into a team of AI-fluent knowledge workers. He shares what his first 100 days looked like—from running a company-wide GenAI survey to personally training over 800 colleagues—and how those efforts laid the foundation for a scalable, human-centered AI strategy. Eric talks about building a culture of “augmented intelligence,” not just through tooling, but through habits, champions, and real behavioural change. He shares practical frameworks—like using AI to improve your prompts, embracing long-form instructions, and designing with role-context-task-output in mind—and explains why measuring success goes beyond usage stats to include depth of interaction and employee NPS. The conversation also looks ahead to the agentic future: personalized AI teammates, embedded workflows, and custom knowledge bases. Whether you’re leading AI at a global company or just trying to help your team get started, this episode is full of real-world insights on how to move from AI hype to meaningful adoption.
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4 months ago
56 minutes 20 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
How Blair Vermette Went from AI Skeptic to a Pioneer of Viral AI Videos
In this episode, Blair Vermette, founder of Rabbit Hole, shares his remarkable journey from traditional television production to the forefront of AI-powered creativity. Initially sceptical - frustrated, even - by AI’s impact on creative industries, Blair found himself at a crossroads. Instead of resisting, he leaned in, exploring AI’s potential and ultimately redefining what was possible in storytelling. Blair walks us through the creation of his viral Adidas spec ad, Floral, the project that propelled him into the AI spotlight and reshaped his career. He discusses the challenges of scaling Rabbit Hole, the unpredictability of AI-generated content, and how his background in editing and directing gave him a unique edge in the space. A natural storyteller, Blair introduces his philosophy of “breaking the spine”-thinking conventional story structures to craft unexpected, engaging narratives. He also shares insights on curation vs. creation, the role of human instinct in working with AI, and the future of creativity in an era where technology is rapidly changing the game.
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5 months ago
56 minutes 15 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
BONUS EPISODE: Boris Eldagsen: Why AI-Generated Images Aren’t Photography
Berlin-based artist Boris Eldagsen made headlines when he won—then refused—the Sony World Photography Awards after revealing that his winning image was AI-generated. In this special episode of Beyond the Prompt, Eldagsen takes us through his transition from traditional photography to what he calls promptography—a new category for AI-generated images. He explores the fundamental differences between photography and AI-generated art, why clear definitions matter in creative competitions, and how AI unlocks new dimensions of artistic freedom. The conversation dives deep into the philosophical and technical aspects of AI-generated images, the role of surprise in the creative process, and what the future holds for photography in the age of AI. If you've ever wondered where art and AI collide—or how to embrace the unexpected in your creative work—this episode is for you.
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5 months ago
44 minutes 9 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Future-Proofing Your Career and Income in the Age of AI with Dr. Joan Palmiter Bajorek
AI is transforming careers, personal branding, and financial planning - so how can you stay ahead? Dr. Joan Palmiter Bajorek, entrepreneur, investor, bestselling author, and host of Your AI Roadmap, shares strategies from her new book to help future-proof your career and income. She breaks down how to build a strong personal brand, expand your network, and stay financially secure in an AI-driven world. We also explore AI’s impact on job searches, gender bias, and the balance between automation and authenticity. Whether you want to pivot into AI, strengthen your career, or make smarter financial moves, this episode offers valuable, actionable strategies to help you navigate the future.
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5 months ago
42 minutes 42 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
How to build a business with AI? Founder of Audos - Nicholas Thorne on the New Rules for Entrepreneurship
In this episode, Nicholas Thorne, co-founder of Audos, shares his mission to empower one million entrepreneurs to create AI-enabled million-dollar businesses. From his beginnings on Wall Street to co-founding Audos with Henrik Werdelin, Nicholas delves into how AI is revolutionizing entrepreneurship. He explains the concept of the "Donkey Corn"—a sustainable, AI-powered business model - and offers frameworks like the Five P’s for identifying customer needs and market opportunities. Nicholas discusses the transformative potential of relationship capital, the importance of aligning personal passion with entrepreneurial ventures, and why the AI-driven future makes entrepreneurship a necessity, not just an option. The conversation also touches on practical strategies for starting and scaling a business, the evolving role of AI in shaping customer relationships, and the power of authenticity in the age of generative AI. This episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiration for anyone looking to harness AI to turn their entrepreneurial ideas into reality.
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6 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 21 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Why your organization needs to embrace AI—Or get left behind, with Brad Anderson
In this episode, Brad Anderson, President of the Product Group at Qualtrics and former Microsoft executive, explores the transformative power of AI in reshaping businesses. Drawing from his time working with Satya Nadella, Brad reflects on Microsoft’s cultural shift from a 'know-it-all' to a 'learn-it-all' mentality and how curiosity and customer focus drive innovation. Brad shares how Qualtrics has evolved beyond surveys, using AI to analyze unstructured feedback and enhance customer and employee experiences. He highlights the importance of embedding AI into daily operations, fostering a culture of experimentation, and upskilling teams. With engaging stories, Brad discusses how hackathons and AI summits at Qualtrics inspire innovation and predicts that organizations embracing AI will outpace those that resist. Packed with insights, this episode is a must-listen for leaders navigating AI adoption and business transformation.
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6 months ago
1 hour 11 minutes 28 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Reinventing Recruiting: Anvisha Pai on Using AI to Automate Hiring
Join Anvisha Pai, founder of Dover, an AI-powered recruiting platform transforming the hiring process for over 500 companies. In this episode, Anvisha takes us behind the scenes of Dover’s innovative approach to recruiting, sharing how her team leverages generative AI to automate repetitive tasks like job description writing and email communication. From her early experiments with AI at MIT to building a fail-fast culture at Dover, Anvisha discusses the challenges and opportunities of integrating cutting-edge technologies into a startup environment. Discover how Dover fosters a culture of curiosity and innovation, enabling team members to turn small experiments into big wins. Anvisha also explores the habits and frameworks that help her stay ahead in the fast-moving world of AI, offering practical advice for organizations looking to adapt and thrive in an AI-driven future.
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7 months ago
36 minutes 55 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
How to make an AI-Driven Culture Transformation with Moderna’s Head of AI, Brice Challamel
In this episode, Brice Challamel, Head of AI Products and Platforms at Moderna, pulls back the curtain on how AI is transforming not just workflows but entire organizational cultures. Brice introduces the concept of the AI "catalyst" - a role focused on accelerating safe, effective change - while sharing practical strategies for fostering widespread AI adoption. Drawing on examples from his leadership at Moderna, Brice explains why it's reckless not to integrate AI into your processes, how to avoid outdated approaches (what he calls "Fred-like behavior") that hold organizations back, and why every individual in a company should think of themselves as a five-person team, augmented by AI. This episode is a masterclass in how to lead through change, prioritize high-impact innovation, and rethink leadership in the age of AI.
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7 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 38 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
How You Can Leverage AI for Big Decisions – Insights from Geoff Woods
In this episode, Geoff Woods, bestselling author of The AI Driven Leader and founder of AI Leadership, reveals how leaders can leverage AI to tackle big decisions and strategic challenges. Geoff introduces a transformative mindset shift: stop asking, “How can I do this?” and start asking, “How can AI help me do this?” Through real-world examples, he demonstrates how AI can act as a thought partner in high-stakes scenarios like debt restructuring, product innovation, and boardroom dynamics. Geoff also shares practical tips on building daily AI habits to enhance decision-making, amplify results, and spark innovative breakthroughs. Whether you're a leader looking to rethink your approach to AI or seeking actionable strategies for smarter decision-making, this episode offers valuable insights for driving success.
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8 months ago
43 minutes 35 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
How Peter Hollens uses AI to build a successful YouTube channel with 3m followers
In this episode, we explore how Peter Hollens has leveraged artificial intelligence to grow his YouTube channel to over 3 million followers and sustain his success in the creator economy. Peter shares how AI tools have streamlined his production process, sparked new creative ideas, and even enhanced his ability to connect authentically with his audience. From optimizing workflows to experimenting with AI-assisted songwriting and storytelling, Peter reveals how technology has expanded his creative possibilities while staying true to his artistic voice. The episode also delves into the ethical challenges of AI, as Peter emphasizes the need for transparent practices that respect creators’ rights. This conversation is an inspiring look at how AI can amplify human creativity, helping creators scale their passions and engage with audiences in meaningful ways.
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8 months ago
56 minutes 39 seconds

Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
Beyond the Prompt dives deep into the world of AI and its expanding impact on business and daily work. Hosted by Jeremy Utley of Stanford's d.school, alongside Henrik Werdelin, an entrepreneur known for starting BarkBox, prehype and other startups, each episode features conversations with innovators and leaders to uncover pragmatic stories of how organizations leverage AI to accelerate success. Learn creative strategies and actionable tactics you can apply right away as AI capabilities advance exponentially.