What if the way we lead, learn, and live isn’t broken, just outdated? In this raw, intelligent, and quietly revolutionary conversation, João Heep shares his vision for real change: not louder, but deeper.
We explore why the next generation doesn’t just want new answers; they want better questions. Why education, leadership, and even money need a different foundation. And how transformation doesn’t begin in strategy, but in the nervous system.
João doesn’t give you a quick fix. He offers something braver: A new kind of presence.
You’ll hear about:
– The burnout behind performance culture
– Why transformation without embodiment fails
– The myth of “fixing the system” from the outside
– João’s personal shift from ambition to alignment
– Why slowing down isn’t a luxury — it’s a leadership decision
This episode is a deep breath for anyone who's tired of surface-level change — and ready to lead from a new place.
Timestamps:
00:02:10 — From school reform to inner reform
00:06:45 — “I was performing success — but it wasn’t mine.”
00:12:30 — The body always knows first
00:18:20 — Why speed and shame are the enemies of change
00:27:10 — Leadership, slowness, and the courage to see
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