For the final installment of Season 2 of Beyond Talking Points, host Abby McCloskey speaks with Rick Perry, former Governor of Texas and U.S. Energy Secretary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Beyond Talking Points, host Abby McCloskey talks with Pia Orrenius, a labor economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, about the effects of migration and deportations on the American economy, workforce and culture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey speaks with Esau McCaulley about the cultural and religious narrative Americans tell ourselves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is Elon Musk's chainsaw getting government spending back under control? This week, Beyond Talking Points host Abby McCloskey talks with Jessica Riedl, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey talks with Emily Oster, author and CEO of ParentData, about President Trump's health and family policies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Season 2 of Beyond Talking Points: An American Middle Podcast kicks off with an episode about the economy. Host Abby McCloskey talks with Doug Holtz Eakin of the American Action Forum and former director of the Congressional Budget Office about tariffs, taxes and the Trump economy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey interviews Yuval Levin, political analyst, academic, journalist and author of the new book American Covenant: How the Constitution Unified Our Nation―and Could Again, about how we can look beyond Tuesday's polls to what truly makes America great and where we can go from here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey talks with Henry Olsen, senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and former columnist at The Washington Post about polling in the home stretch of the election, who is likely to win between Trump and Harris, and what America could look like a year or a generation from now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey talks with Glenn Hubbard, former dean of the Columbia University Graduate School of Business, and former presidential advisor and chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, about the economic prospects of a Trump or Harris administration. Note: the discussion includes references to Hubbard's books which can be found here: https://a.co/d/6obwkaK https://a.co/d/irReWPN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey interviews David Kramer, the executive director of the George W. Bush Institute, about conflicts around the globe and America's role in them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey talks with Patrick Brown of the Ethics and Public Policy Center about what both candidates are promising regarding abortion and family policy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Abby McCloskey talks with legendary Dallas news anchor and fellow Dallas Morning News contributing columnist John McCaa about disruptions in the media landscape and which news reports can be trusted in the lead-up to November's election. The site McCaa recommended is www.refdesk.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Contributing columnist and host Abby McCloskey talks with former political speechwriter Peter Wehner about the First Amendment, Christian Nationalism and other church/state topics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beyond Talking Points: An American Middle Podcast. Host Abby McCloskey talks with Maya MacGuineas, President of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget about campaign promises from both parties, what they will cost, and what can be done about deficit spending and our growing debt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beyond Talking Points: An American Middle Podcast. Host Abby McCloskey talks with immigration expert Madeline Zavodny about Trump's promise of mass deportations, the problem of illegal immigration, the need for comprehensive immigration reform, the economic impact of immigration, and what to do about immigrants who are here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices