Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.
From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.
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Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.
From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.
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Al Brown is one of New Zealand’s most beloved chefs — but behind the TV fame (Hunger for the Wild, Masterchef), award-winning restaurants (Logan Brown, Depot, Federal Deli, Best Ugly Bagels), and his role as a Kiwi food icon lies a story of adoption, perfectionism, reinvention and resilience.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Al opens up about:
This episode is funny, raw and deeply human — a look inside the life of a man who helped redefine New Zealand’s food culture. Enjoy!
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In this episode of Hambassadors, we cover it all: parenting chaos, podcasting lessons, new beers, and one unforgettable message from Laura McGoldrick.
Laura shares the powerful reminder that “one day you’ll put your child down for the very last time” - a truth about time, parenting guilt, and family that hit us both hard.
But it’s not all serious…
- Bon accidentally smashes Billy in the face during a parents vs kids football match.
- Seamus bombs with the worst MC joke at prizegiving.
- We reveal our very own Ambassador Hazy IPA (cheers, Good George).
- And we share the biggest interviewing lessons from 6 years of Between Two Beers.
Plus, movie rankings (Moana vs Predator?!), an epic Betterman event, and a sneak peek at our next guest — Al Brown.
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Steve Gurney is one of the greatest multisport athletes New Zealand has ever produced - but this podcast is about so much more than racing.
In this episode, Steve takes us far beyond the finish line.
We explore:
This is a masterclass in introspection, reinvention, and the quiet pursuit of peace - from someone who has truly lived multiple lives.
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What’s really happening with Che & Di?
In this Accidental Business Owners sit-down, we unpack “the incident,” the viral clip that hit over 250k views versus where we’re at 10 weeks down the track.
Steve sets the scene, then Di breaks down why tough coaching landed, and Che explains the shift - speaking up, reducing cognitive load, and learning to say “no” without guilt.
We get into perception vs reality, the clip economy, unseen aftercare calls, cultural layers, and how values, relationships, and work collide. If you’re a founder, creator, or manager navigating candour, boundaries, and public scrutiny, this one’s gold.
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Olympic BMX star Sarah Walker has lived through it all: the glory of an Olympic silver medal, the pain of breaking 18 bones, and the terrifying reality of a serious brain injury that changed her personality.
In this episode of Between Two Beers, Sarah reveals:
This is not just a story about BMX. It’s about resilience, mental strength, and how to keep believing when the world tells you to stop.
📌 Chapters & Key Moments Inside:
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After his first appearance on Between Two Beers, broadcaster Mark Stafford never expected what would happen next. Listeners reached out to share how his raw honesty about mental health struggles gave them strength - and in some cases, even helped save lives.
In this special follow-up, Staffy joins us again to reflect on those messages, the impact his story has had, and what he’s learned about the power of speaking openly.
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Gilbert Enoka - the All Blacks’ long-time mental skills coach - shares the untold stories behind New Zealand rugby’s culture, resilience, and leadership.
Across 23 years and 304 tests and 2 World Cup victories, Gilbert worked with coaches and players like Sir Graham Henry, Sir Steve Hansen, Ian Foster, and legends including Richie McCaw, Dan Carter, and Tana Umaga.
In this episode, he opens up about:
Whether you’re a rugby fan, coach, or leader, this conversation is packed with practical wisdom.
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Steve has returned from Block 1 of the Icehouse Owner Manager Program with fresh clarity - and as promised, he’s letting us in on the secrets he’s discovered: growth, overwhelm, and the little decisions that change everything.
In this episode:
If you’re juggling family, cash flow, travel, and leadership - you’re not alone. This series documents the real learnings as they happen.
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Award-winning investigative journalist Jared Savage has spent 15+ years on New Zealand’s crime frontlines - covering everything from the rise of meth and Mexican cartels, to patched gangs, political scandals, and the country’s biggest criminal trials.
In this episode we go deep on Savage’s reporting - the brutal realities of the meth trade, how gangs built multi-million dollar drug empires, and the international pipelines flooding New Zealand with narcotics.
Savage also lifts the lid on the hidden connections between politics, money, and organised crime.
If you’ve ever wondered how gangs really operate in NZ, what role overseas cartels play, or what it takes to expose corruption at the highest levels - this conversation is essential listening.
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Simon Barnett’s episode is on track to be our biggest ever – but it almost didn’t come out. Simon was worried it was too self-indulgent. Since it aired though, the feedback has been incredible – for us, and for him.
In this Hambassadors episode we talk about what’s happened since the release, the messages we’ve had, and how it’s landed.
We also cover:
And so much more! Subscribe and follow Between Two Beers for more weekly content.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
4:36 Why Simon Barnett Almost Pulled The Episode
31:33 Seamus’ Weight Loss
43:33 Best Listener Questions
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Marc Ellis has lived a life worthy of a dozen chapters. From Scarfie hijinks at Otago University to becoming an All Black and Kiwi league international, he carved out a career across rugby and league with Otago, North Harbour, the Blues, Highlanders, Warriors and Kiwis.
Off the field, Marc co-founded Charlie’s Juice, eventually selling it to Asahi for $129 million, and became one of New Zealand’s biggest TV personalities on SportsCafe, Game of Two Halves and beyond – often alongside his infamous partner-in-crime, Matthew Ridge.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Marc reflects on:
A true Kiwi icon – this is Marc Ellis like you’ve never heard him before.
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We’ve been putting this off for months… but in this episode of Accidental Business Owner, Di finally forces us to sit down and build the scoreboard we’ve been avoiding.
What does that mean? It’s the unfiltered look at the numbers that really drive our business —-sales, downloads, social media, guest performance, coffees, proposals, even studio bookings. The levers that show if we’re actually growing… or just making noise.
It’s uncomfortable. It’s funny. It’s honest. And it’s exactly what we needed.
If you’ve ever avoided looking at your numbers or felt nervous about measuring success, this conversation will hit home.
What you’ll hear in this episode:
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In this deeply personal episode, Simon Barnett opens up about the love story he shared with his late wife Jodi, her courageous battle with brain cancer, and the life-changing lessons her loss has taught him.
Simon talks about the early days of their relationship, the moment they received the devastating diagnosis, the realities of living with grief, and how his faith, family, and friends have helped him through.
This is a conversation about love, loss, and resilience — and a tribute to Jodi’s enduring legacy.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Why Simon Barnett is so private
4:30 On grief and losing his wife Jodi
9:00 Going to counselling
10:30 Talking to God
12:30 Family life, kids & parents remarrying
18:00 Funny story: competitiveness & missing flights
20:00 Being a terrible handyman (clip)
23:00 Becoming “Chiefy” to his grandkids
30:30 Early career & Telethon story (clip)
33:20 What Now TV show days
38:20 Why he stayed in Christchurch (offers abroad & Auckland)
49:00 The Tom Cruise story: humiliation to meeting him
55:30 Dancing With the Stars
1:04:00 Being a caregiver (clip)
1:10:00 The month after Jodi’s passing
1:18:00 Finding faith at age 30
1:21:00 Return to More FM & leaving Newstalk ZB
1:29:40 Raising daughters
1:35:02 Masculinity after raising four children
1:40:33 The key to happiness
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In this episode of Hambassadors from Between Two Beers, Seamus and Steve catch up on life, events, and a whole lot more – with a special guest appearance from Jay Reeve.
From hanging out with All Blacks coach Ian Foster, to sharing our five favourite books, we cover it all. Jay opens up about a potential ADHD diagnosis, we dive into shocking men’s health statistics, and Seamus shares his own mental health journey. Plus, there’s our Between Two Bets segment, listener questions, and a preview of next week’s Simon Barnett episode.
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Timestamps
00:00 Catching Up
04:45 MC’ing & Hanging with Ian Foster
07:30 Our 5 Favourite Books
14:00 Jay Reeve Joins the Show & Potential ADHD Diagnosis
23:00 Shocking Men’s Health Statistics
29:00 Seamus’ Mental Health
34:00 Between Two Bets
36:00 Listener Questions
39:00 Simon Barnett Preview
If you enjoy Between Two Beers, you’ll love this mix of laughs, honesty, and great conversation with Jay Reeve.
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Viv Conway and Jo Cummins are the fearless founders of Girls Get Off.
Join us for one of the most honest, hilarious, and insightful episodes of Between Two Beers yet.
We unpack the challenges of building a sex-positive brand in New Zealand, why vibrators are still taboo, the orgasm gap, men’s egos in the bedroom, porn vs reality, and how a billboard prank led to 6,000 people visiting a fake dating website.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in sex, relationships, startups - or just a damn good story.
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🎧 Listen in for:
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In this episode of Accidental Business Owners, we reflect on the realities of running a growing business - the kind you don’t see on Instagram.
From building a new podcast studio, navigating cashflow, and rethinking our business priorities… to a cancelled flight that derailed an entire strategy day – we unpack what happens when the pressure quietly builds up behind the scenes.
Steve opens up about an unexpected emotional moment during a key advisory meeting - and what it revealed about time, energy, and how running a “dream” business can still weigh heavily.
We talk:
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Jeremy Wells has one of the most fascinating careers in New Zealand media - and in this episode, we cover it all.
From Eating Media Lunch to Seven Sharp, Havoc to the ACC, Jerry reflects on the wild ride that’s taken him from alternative TV icon to mainstream household name.
We talk broadcasting pillars, radio antics, the price of opportunity, family, fame, and what the future holds. There’s laughter, nostalgia, and a few surprising confessions (including one about Wanganui Collegiate), Jerry was a huge influence on us growing up, and this one meant a lot.
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In this episode of Hambassadors, we unpack a pretty intense couple of weeks - from advisory calls and missed flights to tears, burnout, and some much-needed honesty.
Steve shares what led to a moment of reflection that caught even him off guard, and we talk about what it’s like to keep the podcast and business going when life feels full-on.
Also in the mix:
Thanks for being along for the ride.
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Dr Timoti Te Moke's story is one of the most powerful we've ever shared.
He was raised in violence, survived years in boys' homes and prisons, and spent his youth deep in gang life. At one point, he was known as “the Jake the Muss of South Auckland.” But Timoti didn’t just escape the cycle—he transformed his life.
Today, he holds a PhD, lectures on Māori health, and is helping break the very system that once trapped him.
In this episode, we trace Timoti’s life from his early years of trauma and crime to the moment everything started to change—step by step. He speaks openly about addiction, gang culture, his time in prison, surviving a wrongful manslaughter accusation, and how he found healing, purpose, and redemption later in life.
This is not just a story of survival—it's a masterclass in transformation.
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In this listener-fueled Q&A episode, Seamus and Steve are joined by Di to tackle the biggest questions around business growth, personal development, coaching breakthroughs, and how to define success when the rules keep changing.
You'll hear about the real-time coaching moment that changed everything, why Steve cried in a café (again), and the difference between a mentor and a coach that everyone should understand.
What you’ll learn:
The surprising power of safe-but-tough coaching
Mentorship vs coaching: what you need and when
How to align personal and business growth
The evolution of success metrics (from vibes → revenue → profit)
Why emotional moments are part of building something real
Whether you're growing a podcast, scaling a business, or just figuring it out week by week — this one’s packed with insight, humour, and honesty.
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