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What if your symptoms aren’t problems to fix, but messages your body is sending?



In this episode, I sit down with Adam and Josh Bigelsen, sons of the late Dr. Harvey Bigelsen. They’ve carried forward and evolved his work on what they call the terrain paradigm, a way of seeing health that treats the body as a living, communicating system. Their background is rooted in decades of working alongside their father, from his early days as a surgeon through his shift into homeopathy, microscopy, and holistic approaches.

We get into what the terrain paradigm really means, why their holographic blood analysis is different from live blood analysis, and how dentistry, scar tissue, and emotions all tie into the body’s bigger picture. Adam and Josh share stories of growing up as their father’s “guinea pigs,” watching him transform both his life and his medical practice, and how they’ve taken that foundation into their own work today.

You’ll Learn:

• The reason Adam and Josh grew up as their father’s “guinea pigs”
• What happens when a surgeon gives up wealth to pursue homeopathy and holistic medicine
• The link between emotions like anger or grief and organ function in the body
• The damage of reducing all illness to germs instead of looking at the terrain
• How holographic blood analysis is different from live blood analysis
• How dental work, missing teeth, and jaw alignment can affect the whole body
• The overlooked role scar tissue plays in holding unresolved trauma
• How joy can shift blood chemistry faster than diet changes
• How the four bodies physical, energetic, emotional, spiritual interact to shape health

Timestamps:

[00:00] Introduction

[06:12] Growing up with their father’s shift from surgery to holistic medicine

[09:04] The meaning of terrain paradigm and why the environment matters more than germs

[17:42] Clarifying holographic blood analysis versus live blood analysis

[28:15] How pleomorphism explains bacteria, fungi, and parasites as part of healing

[29:58] Why dentistry and missing teeth impact the whole body’s alignment

[44:51] Integrating physical, energetic, emotional, and spiritual health through the four bodies

[49:21] The overlooked role of scar tissue and the risk of healing crises

[1:01:42] How joy shifts blood chemistry faster than diet changes

[1:11:09] Taking accountability for health and the limits of positive thinking

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Resources Mentioned:

The work of Edgar Cayce | Website

The Hidden Messages In Water by Dr Masaru Emoto | YouTube

Doctors Are More Harmful Than Germs by Harvey Bigelsen | Book

Learn more from Josh and Harvey on their website. You can also follow them on Instagram.

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