In this episode of Bad Words, guest host Lauren joins Janice and Melanie to take apart chapters 31-32. They discuss Angel's struggles, Michael's motives, and the problematic depictions of sex work, gender roles, and racial themes. The conversation expands into the broader implications of purity culture and evangelical teachings. They also reflect on the harmful effects of guilt and shame instilled by such narratives and provide a critical and insightful examination of the book, questioning its lasting impact and Francine Rivers' stance on her work. 00:00 Introduction and Recap 00:18 Angel's Christmas Crisis 00:47 Angel's Escape and New Beginnings 01:07 Back to Rock Bottom 01:29 Meet the Hosts 04:15 Religious Trauma and Therapy 06:09 Purity Culture and Personal Stories 09:45 Book Analysis: Redeeming Love 11:33 Paul and Miriam's Story 11:53 Angel's Struggles and Rescues 16:20 Angel's New Mission 18:07 Critique and Discussion 58:42 The Portrayal of Angel: Victim or Sinner? 59:30 The Role of God in Angel's Journey 01:00:05 The Hypocrisy of Redemption 01:01:04 Angel's Struggle with Identity and Redemption 01:01:38 The Absurdity of Character Names 01:02:40 The Symbolism of Milk and Food 01:04:50 Paul's Misogyny and Double Standards 01:09:24 The Dark Reality of Duke's Character 01:20:17 The Racism and Sexism in Evangelical Teachings 01:33:40 The Impact of Purity Culture on Women 01:46:13 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode of Bad Words, hosts Janice, Melanie, and Stephanie delve into the problematic aspects of chapters 28-30 of Redeeming Love. The conversation highlights key plot points, including Angel's traumatic past and her current struggles with identity and self-worth. The hosts critique the portrayal of Michael as a supposedly virtuous man despite his manipulative and controlling behavior, and they address the book's disturbing themes of child abuse, victim-blaming, and evangelical beliefs. The episode also explores the problematic representation of sex work and trafficking, and how the novel perpetuates harmful stereotypes and unhealthy dynamics. The hosts question Francine Rivers' choices in depicting trauma and scrutinize the underlying messages about women's roles and value in evangelical ideology. 00:00 Introduction and Recap 01:30 Meet the Hosts 03:42 Stephanie's First Encounter with the Book 05:54 Revisiting the Book in 2024 15:26 Angel's Journey and Struggles 18:15 Critique of Francine's Writing and Themes 52:59 Women Hating Women 53:20 Francine's Hatred for Angel 54:01 Angel's Father's Tragic End 54:15 Duke's Manipulation and Angel's Guilt 54:55 The Disturbing Story of Angel's Father 55:14 Angel's Struggle with Guilt and Blame 56:54 Biblical References and Twisted Morals 58:55 The Cycle of Abuse and Trafficking 01:08:05 Evangelicalism and Trauma Porn 01:28:22 The Church's Failure and Evangelical Hypocrisy 01:36:40 Final Thoughts and Critique of Francine Rivers

In this episode Janice Lagata & Melanie, tackle chapters 25 through 27 of Redeeming Love and reflect on the broader cultural implications of the story with guest host Marlaina . The trio discusses the book's portrayal of gender roles, purity culture, and the dehumanizing nature of evangelical influences. They explore the convoluted relationships, historical inaccuracies, and the challenges of dealing with a narrative that intertwines romance with indoctrination.

In this episode of Bad Words, hosts Janice (janicelagata.com) and Melanie (@climbholamel), along with guest Cheyenne, dive deep into Francine Rivers' 'Redeeming Love'. They unpack the toxic relationships, patriarchal themes, and misinterpretations of biblical stories that permeate the novel. Through thoughtful critique and personal insights, they discuss how the novel mishandles issues of trauma, redemption, and agency, paying special attention to the misrepresentation of biblical characters like Gomer and Mary Magdalene. This episode provides a critical lens on Christian romance novels and their impact on readers. 00:00 Introduction: Contrasting Lives 00:19 Angel's New Life on the Farm 00:48 Angel's Confession and Michael's Response 01:13 Angel's Escape and Return 01:30 Welcome to Bad Words 02:08 Meet the Hosts and Guest 02:58 Packing and Moving Stories 07:18 Diving into Redeeming Love 09:09 Chapters 22-24: Angel's Second Departure 10:44 Analyzing Michael's Behavior 16:26 Theological Reflections on Hosea 50:49 Angel's Forced Marriage and Lost Choices 52:08 The House of Magdalene Controversy 54:21 Michael's Questionable Actions and Angel's Insecurities 57:09 Miriam's Secret and Angel's Struggles 01:02:30 Angel's Redemption and Francine's Narrative 01:18:36 Christian Romance and Its Audience 01:31:55 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Join Janice (@godhasnotiven), Melanie (@climbholamel) and Leslie (@leslie_delman) as they dive into chapters 19 -21 of ‘Redeeming Love’. This episode captures the ongoing drama of Michael and Angel's tumultuous relationship, the arrival of the sickeningly wholesome Altman family, and the deep-rooted issues stemming from Angel's dark past. The hosts hilariously scrutinize the depiction of Angel, Michael's misguided saintliness, and Francine's problematic portrayal of female sexuality. They also discuss personal stories about evolving perspectives on relationships, body autonomy, and raising kids in today's world. Tune in for a blend of humor, critique, and genuine moments of reflection. 00:00 Introduction: Contrasting Lives 00:12 Recap of Previous Events 00:17 Michael and Angel's Journey 00:42 Angel's Revelation and Miriam's Reaction 00:51 Angel's Internal Struggles 01:30 Welcome to Bad Words 01:36 Hosts' Banter and Bird Talk 03:18 Discussion on Flamingos 04:35 Reflecting on 'Redeeming Love' 05:22 Leslie's Introduction and Bird Metaphor 06:34 Leslie's Experience with 'Redeeming Love' 15:55 Angel's Emotional Journey 16:57 Summary of Chapters 19-21 26:48 Critique of 'Redeeming Love' 33:58 God's Intervention and Story Pacing 34:26 Character Dynamics and Plot Twists 34:55 Family Drama and Tragic Backstories 36:08 Exploring Themes of Guilt and Redemption 40:06 Disturbing Revelations and Author Critique 49:42 Purity Culture and Its Impact on Women 01:02:56 Parenting and Teaching Body Autonomy 01:14:52 Balancing Safety and Freedom in Parenting 01:15:51 Healing Trauma and Raising Kids 01:16:46 Personal Growth and Marriage 01:18:15 Influence of Parents and Boundaries 01:19:04 Acceptance and Family Dynamics 01:21:13 Evangelicalism and Personal Beliefs 01:34:45 Book Recommendations and Final Thoughts

Join hosts Janice (@godhasnotgiven) and Melanie (@climbholamel), with guest Karla (@holasoykarla), as they dive deep into chapters 16 to 18 of 'Redeeming Love' by Francine Rivers. They unmask the underlying themes about misogyny, autonomy, and the persistent stigmatization of women, while also discussing how the characters endure chaotic and undeserved challenges. The episode also covers the cultural and personal implications that stem from reading such works, tackling topics like purity culture, power dynamics, and the struggle for self-redemption amidst judgmental environments. The conversation is unfiltered, emotional, and sprinkled with humor. Tune in for an in-depth critique and a fresh perspective on this controversial classic. 00:00 Introduction: Contrasting Lives 00:18 Angel's Desperate Escape 01:01 Michael's Chaotic Rescue 01:30 Meet the Hosts: Bad Birds of Paradise 04:13 Karla's Journey with Redeeming Love 13:50 Michael and Angel's New Companions 14:53 Discussing the Book's Themes and Characters 38:23 The Burden of Purity Culture 41:53 Society's Double Standards 45:38 Power Dynamics and Evangelicalism 48:12 The Struggle for Female Autonomy 57:56 The Insidious Nature of Patriarchy 01:11:15 Questioning Evangelical Beliefs 01:18:28 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode of Bad Words, Janice (@godhasnotgiven) Melanie (@climbholamel), and guest host Lo (@lmoshwhipp) dive deep into chapters 13-15 of Francine Rivers' 'Redeeming Love.' The hosts discuss the troubling portrayals of relationships, victim-blaming, and the problematic theology underlying the narrative. They analyze the characters' actions, particularly the disturbing dynamics between Angel and Michael, as well as Paul’s reprehensible behavior. The conversation also touches on how the book reflects evangelical views on love and trauma, highlighting the harmful messages and poor writing that make 'Redeeming Love' a godawful read. 00:00 Introduction and Recap 01:28 Hosts Introduction 03:35 Discussion on 'Redeeming Love' 07:20 Analyzing Characters and Themes 09:29 Paul's Return and Reactions 11:23 Angel's Trauma and Responses 41:54 Curiosity About the Author's Intentions 43:22 Analyzing Angel's Desire for Freedom 44:03 Trauma Responses and Evangelical Love 52:31 Paul's Assault and Its Implications 01:04:29 Angel's Return to Paradise 01:15:14 The Works: A Romance Novel Critique 01:15:23 Goodreads Reviews and Censorship 01:16:59 The Big Rescue: A Violent Escape 01:19:14 Michael's Heroic Violence 01:24:26 Angel's Trauma and Fear 01:26:12 Paul's Betrayal and Michael's Assumptions 01:28:12 Michael's Misguided Love 01:34:32 Evangelical Love Bombing 01:39:18 Francine Rivers' Writing and Critique 01:51:41 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode of Bad Words, Janice (@godhasnotgiven) and Melanie (@climbholamel) are joined by Marla Taviano (@marlataviano) to delve into the deeply flawed narrative and characters of Francine Rivers' 'Redeeming Love'. They revisit Chapters 10 -12, discussing Angel's traumatic recuperation, the problematic character of Michael Hosea, and the inconsistencies in Rivers' portrayal of evangelical values and marriage. With personal anecdotes, humorous critique, and serious analysis, they explore how the book's toxic themes reflect a broader evangelical mindset. The episode is a blend of insightful discussion, personal reflections, and comedic moments, giving audiences a comprehensive critique of the so-called 'Christian Romance'. 00:00 Introduction and Recap 00:16 Angel's Recovery and Resentment 01:16 Meet the Hosts 02:56 Marla's Journey with Evangelical Christianity 04:13 Rediscovering 'Redeeming Love' 05:32 Critique of Christian Romance Novels 14:30 Angel's Struggle for Independence 18:29 Theological Reflections and Personal Stories 25:19 Questioning God's Love and Intentions 41:23 Exploring Free Will and Divine Choices 42:43 Questioning God's Insecurity 44:14 Analyzing Love and Awareness 44:49 Michael's Misguided Actions 47:09 Critique of Francine's Writing 48:35 The Problematic Portrayal of Angel 49:54 Michael's Control and Intimacy Issues 01:07:04 The Racism in the Book 01:12:27 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode of Bad Words, Janice and Dr. Laura Anderson dive deep into the 1997 Christian romance novel 'Redeeming Love' by Francine Rivers. They recount the events leading up to Chapters 7-9, critique the problematic portrayal of women, and discuss the intersections of purity culture, consent, and power dynamics. Alongside humorous takes, the hosts tackle serious conversations about the book's impact on evangelical thought and women's autonomy. Join in as they uncover the unsettling themes hidden within this supposedly romantic tale. 00:00 Introduction to Redeeming Love 00:14 Recap of Previous Events 00:37 Angel's Struggles and Michael's Persistence 01:28 Meet the Hosts: Janice and Laura 02:02 Laura's Personal Connection to the Book 03:01 Revisiting Redeeming Love: A Critical Perspective 09:31 Angel's Recovery and New Life with Michael 10:47 Analyzing the Book's Themes and Writing 26:23 The Voice of God and Personal Autonomy 35:36 The Bondage of Salvation 37:38 Analyzing Michael Hosea 42:49 The Concept of Choice 51:38 Purity Culture and Historical Context 55:28 Critique of Francine Rivers' Writing 01:06:16 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

Join Janice (@godhasnotgiven), Melanie (@climbholamel) and Stephen (@stephengarton) as they delve into chapters 4 thru 6 of Francine Rivers’ questionable “romance” novel 'Redeeming Love.' Set in 1850s California, this episode covers Angel, an 18-year-old prostitute, and an odd marriage proposal from a farmer named Michael Hosea. Discussions also cover the book's problematic elements, including issues around consent, purity culture, and the unrealistic and non-progressive portrayal of characters. Despite the heavy and often outrageous content, the hosts provide detailed analysis and humorous commentary. 00:00 Introduction: Contrasting Lives 00:16 Setting the Scene: California 1850 00:32 Michael's Divine Encounter 01:18 Stephen's Reluctant Review 02:03 Discussing Francine Rivers' Works 06:05 Angel's Struggles and Michael's Persistence 08:32 The Wedding and Its Aftermath 09:46 Analyzing Character Dynamics 10:15 The Milk Controversy 15:55 Currency Confusion: Gold Dust and Dollars 38:15 Michael's Frustration and Angel's Defiance 47:08 The Value of Carrots and Milk 47:32 Plot Progression and Character Analysis 48:27 Predicting the Rescue 50:08 Michael's Journey and Angel's Fate 52:04 The Confrontation and Rescue 56:07 The Non-Consensual Wedding 01:00:16 Analyzing the Story's Themes 01:07:02 Critique of the Book's Audience and Message 01:21:16 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode of Bad Words, hosts Janice (@godhasnotgiven), Melanie (@climbholamel) and Jenna (@jencug) dissect the first three chapters of Francine Rivers' novel 'Redeeming Love'. They explore themes relating to the portrayal of women, the inherent guilt and shame promoted by purity culture, and the dynamics between male and female characters in the book. While also touching on the unrealistic and problematic aspects of the narrative, the discussion provides a critical lens on how evangelical ideology influences literature and society. Join the conversation as they uncover the hidden layers and implications of 'Redeeming Love'.

This episode of 'Bad Words' kicks off Season 3 with hosts Janice (@godhasnotgiven) and Melanie (@climbholamel) diving into their first admitted fiction book, 'Redeeming Love' by Francine Rivers. The prologue reveals the tragic backstory of Sarah/Angel, exploring her complex relationships with her mother, absent father, and the traumas she faces. The hosts critique the literary value, character development, and potential messages to the 21st-century evangelical audience. The episode sets the stage for a detailed analysis of the book’s themes, characters, and narrative style.

Are you a Barbie girl in a Barbie world or a Cinderella in an Eldredge fever dream?. Prepare to RSVP for an invitation you never wanted as we give chapter 12 of Captivating the read that it deserves.  BAD BOOK: Captivating Chapter: 12 of 12 | An Irreplaceable Role Book Club Member: Chelsea Instagram |@chelseakimlong 

It’s a Neverending Story of how God speaks to John and only John about everything you need to know. Get ready to get all you need from a single sentence as we give chapter 11 of Wild At Heart the read that it deserves. (Finally 👀) BAD BOOK: Wild At Heart Chapter: 11 of 12 | An Adventure to Live Book Club Member: Melanie Instagram | @climbholamel

If you wanna be a Princess Bride, you better be ready to fight like a Lord of the [wedding] rings! Prepare to be bummed out by the Eldredge marriage as we give chapter 11 of Captivating the read that it deserves! BAD BOOK: Captivating Chapter: 11 of 12 | Warrior Princesses Book Club Member: Melanie Instagram | @climbholamel

A special bonus episode because bad things happen to words outside of books too. So we're talking about bad worship remakes, demonic takes and the bad theology beneath it all. (Early and with no ads for the People of Jod. Thank you ❤️) BAD W🤬RDS: The Jericho -NO! "KIndgom Remake" ACTUAL ART: JERICHO by Iniko Book Club Member: Ashlee' Instagram |@unashamedly_ashlee

It’s time to Throw Mama From the Train and under the bus, Eldredge style, as we give chapter 10 of Captivating the read that it deserves. BAD BOOK: Captivating Chapter: 10 of 12 | Mothers, Daughters, Sisters Book Club Member: Libby Instagram |@libbyrosebaugh 

It’s Into The Woods on a safari of the heart for men who love (and love like) grim fairytales. Prepare to be driven to drink as we give chapter 10 of Wild At Heart the read that it deserves.  BAD BOOK: Wild At Heart Chapter: 10 of 12 | A Beauty To Love Book Club Member: Natalia Instagram |@nterfa 

The actual factual title of chapter 9 is Arousing Adam and nothing will ever be worse than that. So prepare to cringe cringes bigger than you could ever ask or imagine as we give chapter 9 of Captivating the read that it deserves.  BAD BOOK: Captivating Chapter: 9 of 12 | Arousing Adam Book Club Member: Tim Instagram |@thenewevangelicals 

It’s a Band of “oh brother 🙄” where the point of manhood is to Save Private Ryan from all manner of imaginary frenemies. Get ready to go to war with all sorts of war stories as we give chapter 9 of Wild At Heart the read that it deserves.  BAD BOOK: Wild At Heart Chapter: 9 of 12 | A Battle To Fight: The Strategy Book Club Member: Dan Instagram |@dkauchick