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Jaco Pastorius, The World's Greatest Bass Player (Part 1)

Even before he was famous, Jaco Pastorius would introduce himself like this, “Hi, My name is John Francis Pastorius III, and I'm the greatest electric bass player in the world”. Rolling eyes would quickly be replaced by slacked jaws when he started to play… because it only took a matter of seconds to realize he really was the greatest bass player in the world.

This is part 1 of my deep dive into Jaco's ideas, lessons, and process.

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Further Reading:

  • Jaco: The Extraordinary and Tragic Life of Jaco Pastorius
  • Jaco: The Film
  • Jaco Pastorius: The Lost Tapes Documentary
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 2 minutes 5 seconds

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Bonus Content: Joni Mitchell

All of the notes that I had about Joni Mitchell that didn't make it into the deep dive.

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⁠⁠Listen to my playlist Joni Mitchell: Love From Both Sides⁠

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1 month ago
1 hour 54 minutes 52 seconds

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Deep Dive: Joni Mitchell, Grammy Award Winning Singer-Songwriter (Part 2)

Part 2 of my deep dive into the creative process of Joni Mitchell, one of the greatest singer-songwriters in history.

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It’s a peculiar thing that one of the greatest singer-songwriter’s in history had no intention of ever being a singer, or a songwriter. Ever since she was a child, Joni Mitchell wanted to be a painter. This calling led her from her home in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan to the Alberta College of Art. However, her time at art school was short lived, when after becoming pregnant, she fled for the anonymity and opportunity of Toronto.

While in Toronto, her passion for painting had to be put to the side, and making money became the priority. Unsurprisingly, there was little opportunity for an unmarried, pregnant, art school drop out, so Joni turned to her most recent way of making money, singing. While at school, Joni had performed at a local coffee house in Calgary simply, as she put it, to make some money for cigarettes and to go to the movies.

The music scene was more developed in Toronto than Calgary, and so work did not come easily to an unknown Joni. Unable to afford the union dues, she was relegated to performing non-union gigs in church basements and YMCA meeting halls. Unable to support herself, no less a child, she made the difficult decision to put her daughter up for adoption.

Joni never was able to get her daughter back, but she was able to get steady work in coffeehouses in Detroit… as a duo with her new husband Chuck Mitchell. People were quick to catch on that there’s a large gulf in talent between Joni and her husband, and after issues in their relationship, their marriage ended in divorce less than two years after it began.

Now single, Joni devoted all of her time to her music, and her songs became famous before she did. Anyone who saw her perform was struck by her songwriting, Joni’s own hits were hits for other popular artists first, most notably The Circle Game by Tom Rush, and Both Sides Now by Judy Collins.

While her songs were hits on the radio, Joni was on the road. Touring extensively across the Eastern seaboard in 1967, and in 1968 to promote her debut album, Songs to a Seagull. The following year, her sophomore album Clouds would see her increase in popularity, before becoming a household name with 1970’s Ladies of the Canyon, featuring Joni’s most popular song, Big Yellow Taxi.

Feeling like she was getting famous too fast, Joni fled to Greece, a place she could be anonymous once again. When she did return (much to the delight of her manager), she had written not only her most vulnerable album, but arguably the most vulnerable album by anyone up to that point, Blue. While reception to the album was mixed, Blue has gone on to be considered one of the greatest albums ever made. Rolling Stone, who were initially critical of the album, ranked the album as #3 of the 500 greatest albums of all time. On June 22, 2021, exactly 50 years to the day of its release, Blue charted at #1 on iTunes.

After raging against the machine in the “greedy 80s” as she described them, Joni’s popularity surged into the 1990s, with a young generation of songwriters citing her influence, she won a Grammy for Best Pop Album for 1994’s Turbulent Ingo, and every publication in the world jumping onto her popularity by awarding her some form of honorary award.

Shortly after reuniting with her daughter in 1997, Joni Mitchell didn’t write another new song for a decade, instead enjoying her newfound life as a mother and grandmother. After suffering an aneurysm in 2015, it was thought Mitchell would never sing again, however, the odds were never something she paid much attention to. Mitchell returned to the stage in 2022. Ever the artist, Mitchell continues to both sing and paint to this day, and she will continue to do so until the day she dies.

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2 months ago
2 hours 30 minutes 33 seconds

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Deep Dive: Joni Mitchell, Grammy Award Winning Singer-Songwriter (Part 1)

Part 1 of my deep dive into the creative process of Joni Mitchell, one of the greatest singer-songwriters in history.

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Listen to my playlist Joni Mitchell: Love From Both Sides


It’s a peculiar thing that one of the greatest singer-songwriter’s in history had no intention of ever being a singer, or a songwriter. Ever since she was a child, Joni Mitchell wanted to be a painter. This calling led her from her home in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan to the Alberta College of Art. However, her time at art school was short lived, when after becoming pregnant, she fled for the anonymity and opportunity of Toronto.

While in Toronto, her passion for painting had to be put to the side, and making money became the priority. Unsurprisingly, there was little opportunity for an unmarried, pregnant, art school drop out, so Joni turned to her most recent way of making money, singing. While at school, Joni had performed at a local coffee house in Calgary simply, as she put it, to make some money for cigarettes and to go to the movies.

The music scene was more developed in Toronto than Calgary, and so work did not come easily to an unknown Joni. Unable to afford the union dues, she was relegated to performing non-union gigs in church basements and YMCA meeting halls. Unable to support herself, no less a child, she made the difficult decision to put her daughter up for adoption.

Joni never was able to get her daughter back, but she was able to get steady work in coffeehouses in Detroit… as a duo with her new husband Chuck Mitchell. People were quick to catch on that there’s a large gulf in talent between Joni and her husband, and after issues in their relationship, their marriage ended in divorce less than two years after it began.

Now single, Joni devoted all of her time to her music, and her songs became famous before she did. Anyone who saw her perform was struck by her songwriting, Joni’s own hits were hits for other popular artists first, most notably The Circle Game by Tom Rush, and Both Sides Now by Judy Collins.

While her songs were hits on the radio, Joni was on the road. Touring extensively across the Eastern seaboard in 1967, and in 1968 to promote her debut album, Songs to a Seagull. The following year, her sophomore album Clouds would see her increase in popularity, before becoming a household name with 1970’s Ladies of the Canyon, featuring Joni’s most popular song, Big Yellow Taxi.

Feeling like she was getting famous too fast, Joni fled to Greece, a place she could be anonymous once again. When she did return (much to the delight of her manager), she had written not only her most vulnerable album, but arguably the most vulnerable album by anyone up to that point, Blue. While reception to the album was mixed, Blue has gone on to be considered one of the greatest albums ever made. Rolling Stone, who were initially critical of the album, ranked the album as #3 of the 500 greatest albums of all time. On June 22, 2021, exactly 50 years to the day of its release, Blue charted at #1 on iTunes.

After raging against the machine in the “greedy 80s” as she described them, Joni’s popularity surged into the 1990s, with a young generation of songwriters citing her influence, she won a Grammy for Best Pop Album for 1994’s Turbulent Ingo, and every publication in the world jumping onto her popularity by awarding her some form of honorary award.

Shortly after reuniting with her daughter in 1997, Joni Mitchell didn’t write another new song for a decade, instead enjoying her newfound life as a mother and grandmother. After suffering an aneurysm in 2015, it was thought Mitchell would never sing again, however, the odds were never something she paid much attention to. Mitchell returned to the stage in 2022. Ever the artist, Mitchell continues to both sing and paint to this day, and she will continue to do so until the day she dies.

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2 months ago
1 hour 49 minutes 46 seconds

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Bonus Content: Keith Jarrett

Lessons and stories I learned studying Keith Jarrett that didn't make it into the deep dive.

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Read: ⁠⁠Keith Jarrett: The Man and his Music by Ian Carr⁠⁠

Watch: ⁠⁠Keith Jarrett: The Art of Improvisation

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3 months ago
1 hour 58 minutes 52 seconds

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Deep Dive: Keith Jarrett, Jazz Pianist (Part 2)

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About Keith Jarrett

Becoming one of the greatest jazz pianists, classical interpreters, or composers of your generation is an incredible feat… Keith Jarrett is considered all three.

A prodigious talent, Keith was born in Allentown, Pennsylvania in 1945, and began learning the piano at age three, two years later — at the age of 5, he had his first TV appearance, by seven he played a two-hour classical solo concert in his home town, and by nine he performed solo at Madison Square Garden as part of a Lion’s Club Convention.

In his teens, Keith was personally invited to train in France under legendary composition teacher Nadia Boulanger, who trained many of the greatest classical musicians of the 20th century. However, he declined the invitation and instead opted to attend Berklee School of Music in Boston to learn Jazz.

His stint at the renowned music school was short lived as he was thrown out after a year, which led him to New York City, there he scraped by until he found consistent work in the jazz world — briefly joining Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers, becoming a mainstay in Charles Lloyd’s innovative quartet, and eventually playing in Miles Davis’ electric band, before striking out on his own.

The 1970s was a busy period for Jarrett, in addition to leading two popular jazz bands, known respectively as the “American Quartet” comprised of Dewey Redman on sax, Charlie Haden on bass, and Paul Motian on drums, and the “European Quartet” with Jan Garbarek on sax, Palle Danielsson on bass, and Jon Christensen on drums — Keith also pioneered a new kind of performance, the improvised solo piano concert.

Each concert was completely unique, with Jarrett composing new material for each show, live and on the spot, never to repeat that music again. His 1975 Koln concert has gone to become both the best-selling piano recording and the best selling solo jazz album in history with around 4 million sales. In 2025 the album was deemed "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant" by the Library of Congress and selected for preservation in the National Recording Registry.

With both his quartets disbanding by the end of the decade, the 1980s was an adventurous period for Jarrett. While continuing to perform his popular solo concerts, Keith formed a new trio known as the “Standards Trio” with Jack DeJohnette on drums and Gary Peacock on bass — which would go on to become one of the longest lasting and most celebrated jazz trios in history, he would record the experimental multi-track record Spirits where he played more than a dozen instruments, and he would return to the classical piano world with notable interpretations of Bach, Mozart, and Shostakovich.

In 1996 Jarrett was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which resulted in him stepping away from performing entirely. Thanks to experimental treatment, he was able to record the 1999 album The Melody at Night With You in his home studio, before returning to the stage with the Standards Trio later that year.

Keith Jarrett continued to perform solo, with the trio, and with orchestras until suffering two major strokes in 2018, which left him unable to use his left hand — effectively bringing the seventy year long career of one of the most innovative and prolific musicians this world has ever known to a close.

Dig Deeper

Read: ⁠Keith Jarrett: The Man and his Music by Ian Carr⁠

Watch: ⁠Keith Jarrett: The Art of Improvisation ⁠

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4 months ago
2 hours 2 minutes 3 seconds

Artwell
Deep Dive: Keith Jarrett, Jazz Pianist (Part 1)

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About Keith Jarrett

Becoming one of the greatest jazz pianists, classical interpreters, or composers of your generation is an incredible feat… Keith Jarrett is considered all three.

A prodigious talent, Keith was born in Allentown, Pennsylvania in 1945, and began learning the piano at age three, two years later — at the age of 5, he had his first TV appearance, by seven he played a two-hour classical solo concert in his home town, and by nine he performed solo at Madison Square Garden as part of a Lion’s Club Convention.

In his teens, Keith was personally invited to train in France under legendary composition teacher Nadia Boulanger, who trained many of the greatest classical musicians of the 20th century. However, he declined the invitation and instead opted to attend Berklee School of Music in Boston to learn Jazz.

His stint at the renowned music school was short lived as he was thrown out after a year, which led him to New York City, there he scraped by until he found consistent work in the jazz world — briefly joining Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers, becoming a mainstay in Charles Lloyd’s innovative quartet, and eventually playing in Miles Davis’ electric band, before striking out on his own.

The 1970s was a busy period for Jarrett, in addition to leading two popular jazz bands, known respectively as the “American Quartet” comprised of Dewey Redman on sax, Charlie Haden on bass, and Paul Motian on drums, and the “European Quartet” with Jan Garbarek on sax, Palle Danielsson on bass, and Jon Christensen on drums — Keith also pioneered a new kind of performance, the improvised solo piano concert.

Each concert was completely unique, with Jarrett composing new material for each show, live and on the spot, never to repeat that music again. His 1975 Koln concert has gone to become both the best-selling piano recording and the best selling solo jazz album in history with around 4 million sales. In 2025 the album was deemed "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant" by the Library of Congress and selected for preservation in the National Recording Registry.

With both his quartets disbanding by the end of the decade, the 1980s was an adventurous period for Jarrett. While continuing to perform his popular solo concerts, Keith formed a new trio known as the “Standards Trio” with Jack DeJohnette on drums and Gary Peacock on bass — which would go on to become one of the longest lasting and most celebrated jazz trios in history, he would record the experimental multi-track record Spirits where he played more than a dozen instruments, and he would return to the classical piano world with notable interpretations of Bach, Mozart, and Shostakovich.

In 1996 Jarrett was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which resulted in him stepping away from performing entirely. Thanks to experimental treatment, he was able to record the 1999 album The Melody at Night With You in his home studio, before returning to the stage with the Standards Trio later that year.

Keith Jarrett continued to perform solo, with the trio, and with orchestras until suffering two major strokes in 2018, which left him unable to use his left hand — effectively bringing the seventy year long career of one of the most innovative and prolific musicians this world has ever known to a close.

Dig Deeper

Read: Keith Jarrett: The Man and his Music by Ian Carr

Watch: Keith Jarrett: The Art of Improvisation

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4 months ago
1 hour 48 minutes 47 seconds

Artwell
Tom Schulman: The Oscar Winning Writer Behind Dead Poets Society

In 1989 Tom Schulman won an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay for Dead Poets Society.

He followed this up with screenplays for two hit comedies, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, and What About Bob?.

In 1997 he made his directorial debut with the Joe Pesci led, Eight Heads in a Duffel Bag. He recently returned to the director’s chair for his 2022 film, Double Down South.

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5 months ago
51 minutes 58 seconds

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Bonus Content: Robin Williams

More lessons and stories I cut from the Robin Williams deep dive.

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5 months ago
2 hours 4 minutes 56 seconds

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Deep Dive: Robin Williams (Part 2)

Robin Williams is an Oscar, Emmy, and Grammy award winning actor and comedian. He first rose to prominence for his breakout role as Mork in the hit '70s sitcom, Mork and Mindy. Following Mork, Robin received praise for his dramatic turn in films such as Dead Poets Society, Awakenings, and The Fisher King.

In the '90s, Williams became one of the highest-paid movie stars in the world thanks to films like Hook, Aladdin, Mrs. Doubtfire, and Jumanji. In 1998, after three prior nominations, he finally won an Oscar for his performance as Dr. Sean Maguire in Good Will Hunting.

Despite a slowdown at the box office into the 2000s, Williams received Best Comedy Album nominations at the Grammys for his final two standup specials, Robin Williams Live (2002) and Weapons of Self-Destruction (2009), with a win for the former.

In 2011, Robin starred in a Broadway production of Bengal Tiger at the Baghdad Zoo to much praise. However, many consider his exclusion from the Tony Awards to be a snub, denying him the opportunity to achieve an EGOT before his passing in 2014.

In part two of our deep dive into his career, we will discuss his time as a movie star, his final two standup specials, and his passing.

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5 months ago
2 hours 44 minutes 27 seconds

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Deep Dive: Robin Williams (Part 1)

Robin Williams is an Oscar, Emmy, and Grammy award winning actor and comedian. He first rose to prominence for his breakout role as Mork in the hit '70s sitcom, Mork and Mindy. Following Mork, Robin received praise for his dramatic turn in films such as Dead Poets Society, Awakenings, and The Fisher King.

In the '90s, Williams became one of the highest-paid movie stars in the world thanks to films like Hook, Aladdin, Mrs. Doubtfire, and Jumanji. In 1998, after three prior nominations, he finally won an Oscar for his performance as Dr. Sean Maguire in Good Will Hunting.

Despite a slowdown at the box office into the 2000s, Williams received Best Comedy Album nominations at the Grammys for his final two standup specials, Robin Williams Live (2002) and Weapons of Self-Destruction (2009), with a win for the former.

In 2011, Robin starred in a Broadway production of Bengal Tiger at the Baghdad Zoo to much praise. However, many consider his exclusion from the Tony Awards to be a snub, denying him the opportunity to achieve an EGOT before his passing in 2014.

In part one of our deep dive into his career, we will focus on his rise to fame with Mork and Mindy, and his first three comedy specials.

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5 months ago
1 hour 56 minutes 44 seconds

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Michael Jackson's Former Publicist On What It Means to Be a Great Writer ft. Howard Bloom

My guest today is Howard Bloom, as a music publicist in the 1970s and ‘80s he worked with talent like Michael Jackson, Prince, Bob Marley, Queen, Joan Jett, and more. In 1979, New York Magazine put him in their "Hot 100 plus" list as one of its "Big Dealmakers"

This is Howard’s second appearance on this podcast, in our first interview back in 2023, we discussed his time in the music industry as I tried to understand what made someone a star.

When I reached out to Howard for this interview, it was with the intention of continuing our conversation about the music industry, however, he told me his new book, The Case of the Sexual Cosmos: Everything You Know About Nature Is Wrong was set to release and he was only taking interviews about that.

That may seem like an odd book for a former music publicist to release, but one thing you have to know about Howard is you can’t put him in a box. You see, Howard left the music industry in the late 80s after suffering a debilitating illness, and after overcoming it in the early 2000s, he returned to his first love of science.

And Howard believes, as Einstein believed, that in order to be an original scientific thinker, one must be a writer, and not just a good writer, but a great one. And so while an in-depth conversation around Howard’s scientific theories would not make sense for this podcast, I was interested in exploring the process of a polarizing writer who is striving for greatness.

And so now without further ado, I am very excited to present to you, my second interview with Howard Bloom.

Get a copy of Howard's book: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Sexual-Cosmos-Everything-Nature-ebook/dp/B0F92TTVND/

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6 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 15 seconds

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Takeaways: Baron Ryan (American Baron)

What I learned interviewing writer and filmmaker Baron Ryan.

Get a copy of Baron's short story collection, A Comedy of Nobodies


Watch Baron's debut feature film, Two Sleep People: Coming Soon

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6 months ago
29 minutes 28 seconds

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Baron Ryan (@americanbaron) on Making His Feature Film 'Two Sleepy People'

Baron Ryan, also known as @americanbaron on ⁠TikTok⁠ (2.9M) and ⁠Instagram⁠ (1.3M) is a writer and filmmaker who rose to prominence making short films on the internet that wrestle with life, love, and the meaning of it all.

At the end of 2024 Baron released a collection of short stories called ⁠A Comedy of Nobodies⁠, his fiction debut that traces a fall semester in the lives of four typical but unforgettable university students.

This interview was recorded on Saturday, April 19th, 2025, exactly one week before Baron premiered his debut feature film, Two Sleepy People, at the Camp Film Festival in Austin Texas.

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6 months ago
57 minutes 58 seconds

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Takeaways: Veronica Cartwright

What I learned interviewing Veronica Cartwright, actor, The Birds, Alien, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and The Witches of Eastwick.

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7 months ago
30 minutes 46 seconds

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Reflecting on Roles in Alien, Body Snatchers, The Birds and More with Veronica Cartwright

Veronica Cartwright has been acting for over six decades. After appearing in the William Wyler film "The Children's Hour", Alfred Hitchcock requested to meet her and cast her as Cathy Brenner.

After navigating the tough transition from child actor to adult actor, Veronica went on to act in films like Alien, The Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), The Witches of Eastwick, Goin' South, and more.

In this exclusive interview she reflects on her career and shares stories of the incredible collaborators she's had in her career including Alfred Hitchcock, Donald Sutherland, Jack Nicholson, Ridley Scott, George Miller, and more.

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7 months ago
1 hour 16 minutes 33 seconds

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Why Bicentennial Man Has The Most Complex Love Story in Film History (Film Analysis)

I wanted to try my hand at film analysis and I stumbled onto some interesting connections when watching the 1999 film Bicentennial Man, so figured I'd give it a shot.

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7 months ago
19 minutes 10 seconds

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Artwell State of the Union 2025

An update on what to expect from Artwell this year.

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8 months ago
19 minutes 50 seconds

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What George Miller Taught Me About Storytelling, The Audience, and Allegory (Season 4 Finale)

This officially marks the end of Artwell Season 4 on George Miller. I have spent time thinking about the key lessons I learned this season of the show and have distilled them down into essays that I will share with you in this episode.

In this episode we explore why 'Your Art Is Not For You', and 'How to Tell a Story Like George Miller'. I also share two incredible stories from George Miller's collaborators, and a demonstration of why allegorical stories are so important.

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9 months ago
1 hour 34 minutes 47 seconds

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Bonus Content: George Miller

Everything that didn't make it into my two deep dives on George Miller.


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9 months ago
1 hour 48 minutes

Artwell
Exploring exploring great art and the people who made it through deep dives and interviews.