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And the Winner Should Have Been...
Bob and Mark
70 episodes
23 hours ago

Discussing what movies *should* have won and film generally.

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Discussing what movies *should* have won and film generally.

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Film Reviews
TV & Film
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And the Winner Should Have Been...
(Four) Soundtracks

Trying something new again this episode; Bob and Mark discuss some soundtracks. What kind of musical expertise and knowledge do they bring to the topic? Almost nothing. Is it a list of their favorites? Not necessarily. You might like it anyway. Fewer spoilers than usual, though we disdain caution around such things as always.


00:10 Intro and disclaimer

03:57 In the Mood for Love (soundtrack)

11:25 Yumeji

16:39 Perfect Days (soundtrack)

21:34 The word Bob is failing to remember is "komorebi"

24:51 A Clockwork Orange (soundtrack)

25:11 Kubrick/Hitchcock episode

31:50 Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, 4th Movement (This is not the best rendition of it, but it's okay. ~ Bob)

33:26 Wendy Carlos additional music (It was at this point in the edit that Bob discovered that Wendy Carlos was born Walter Carlos. Thus the original album title in the link.)

37:20 Sparrow (soundtrack)

41:00 Stairs

42:11 Aussie Blu-Ray

44:18 Winding down and wrapping up

44:58 Every Frame a Painting

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2 months ago
50 minutes 25 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
French Films

This time around Bob and Mark lean right into the pretentiousness and discuss the French cinema they enjoy. (For the title we decided to go for the middle choice of "films;" seems midway between "cinema" and "movies.") We do less spoiling than usual, but you should still beware. The dreaded SPOILER may rear its head at any moment in our podcast.


00:10 Intro

03:45 Le Samourai

07:01 Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai

11:26 Disorder (Maryland)

18:39 Au Revoir, Les Enfants

24:28 My Dinner With Andre

26:59 Three Colors: White

33:41 L'Argent

39:04 Wasabi

43:15 Le Cercle Rouge

46:50 Army of Shadows

51:43 Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot

55:21 Odds and Ends

The Count of Monte Cristo (2002), The Count of Monte Cristo (2024), Gankutsuou, The Count of Monte Cristo (Depardieu), Amélie, The Red Turtle, A Prophet

1:02:12 Wrapping up

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3 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes 55 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Amadeus

This episode we catch up to 1985 and evaluate the 5 films from 1984 nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. It's been a while since the last episode, but to make up for it, it's a bit longer than usual? Anyway, this will be the last decade in series that we look at for now since we've already done an episode on the Best Picture nominees from 1995, 2005, and 2015. As always, beware of the fearsome spoiler that lurks throughout, and enjoy!


00:10 Introduction

04:27 A Soldier's Story

18:25 Places in the Heart

27:40 A Passage to India

45:39 The Killing Fields

54:26 Interlude about ranking nominees by vote totals (Bob was right in his gut reaction: voting results are not made publicly available)

55:51 Amadeus

01:09:45 Films from this year featured in other episodes of our podcast: Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Star Trek III, The Terminator, Dune, Blood Simple

01:14:40 Random odds and ends to conclude

Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: ⁠https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode

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4 months ago
1 hour 18 minutes 5 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
The Godfather Part II

So...there were some challenges with this one. We do apologize for the slow release pace, but in this case the audio required a lot of work to tune up. We're talking Best Picture for the 47th Academy Awards (films from 1974). SPOILERS abound, as always.


00:10 Intro

00:57 A good year?

03:21 The Conversation

12:25 Gene Hackman interlude

13:35 (Yes, yes; we were thinking of A Few Good Men)

18:14 The Godfather Part II

34:53 Chinatown

48:53 Lenny

55:07 The Towering Inferno

1:02:34 Digression about film rights and availability of old films

1:08:00 Quick review of other notable films from 1974

1:12:40 Our picks for Best Picture

1:14:13 (We are moving ahead a decade)

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5 months ago
1 hour 15 minutes 48 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
My Fair Lady

It's been a little while, but we've jumped another 10 years closer to the present with an episode on the best films of 1964. Unfortunately for filmgoers it was a bit of a fallow year, but it does make for some good conversation. We mostly talk about the 5 Best Picture nominees, but a few more films come in for a mention in passing.

As ever, we SPOIL the endings, middles...everything really about these movies without regard for what you might not have seen, so be warned. Watch the films first if you don't want to know how they end.


00:10 Intro to the podcast/topic

00:56 (Absolutely we did not get caught up to the current year)

03:34 Mary Poppins

18:03 Becket

29:55 My Fair Lady

31:12 Bob remembers correctly about Shaw and the Greek origin!

38:15 The superior original ending

43:53 Dr. Strangelove

45:51 The prior episode where we talked about Dr. Strangelove

46:25 Bob might be misremembering Hayden's late-life problems

52:00 Zorba the Greek

57:21 Bob gets on his high horse a bit

01:01:57 Picking our winner

01:05:18 Next episode plans and conclusion


Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode

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6 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 33 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
2024 Recap

Bob finally gets busy and edits this episode wrapping up the past calendar year. It's a bit out of date, but then most of the episodes are too since we're almost always looking at films from years earlier. Not too many spoilers this time round, but be wary; one never knows when they may strike!


00:10 Intro

04:53 Favorites watched for the podcast

07:27 Movies from 2024

17:53 Bob and Indian cinema

20:25 Rowdy. Rowdy Rathore. (trailer)

21:57 How Bob sees films; film volume

25:09 First time watches not from 2024

34:48 Bob and Mark argue a bit about Free Solo

39:58 It's over!

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8 months ago
41 minutes 19 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
It Happened One Night

00:10 Intro

02:04 The White Parade, copyright, and availability

09:02 Which ones did we watch?

10:45 It Happened One Night

11:53 It was the Valentine's Day episode about rom-coms in 2022

15:10 Bob's a little off; Miami was 110,000 in 1930, up from less than 30,000 in 1920

20:05 Bob did! See above.

20:57 The end of the Pre-Code era

23:23 Cleopatra

28:13 Imitation of Life

33:18 Flirtation Walk

38:05 The Gay Divorcee

45:06 The Thin Man

49:25 Drunks on film

53:37 Of Human Bondage

59:06 And the Winner Should Have Been...

01:03:45 Upcoming episodes

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10 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 34 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Ralph Fiennes

This week we talk about the films of Ralph Fiennes. We haven't seen all his movies, but we have seen a goodly number. If you're afraid of the sneaky and nefarious SPOILER, you probably ought to be cautious since we fear it not.


00:10 Intro and the topic

02:40 Fiennes and the theater (theatre?)

06:11 Bob attempts to categorize Fiennes' films

07:05 Bob's very wrong about Macbeth being on streaming

08:00 The bulk of Fiennes' movies

13:37 Fiennes as villain

16:03 The Avengers (1998) Bob will be wrong a few seconds later about Fiennes being the villain (it's Sean Connery); not only that, Fiennes plays the hero, which would have been a good thing to have looked up before having the rest of this conversation. Do your homework, kids!

16:51 Our discussion of The English Patient

19:18 "Never" the hero? Didn't you guys just say he was the hero of The King's Man? Tells you how forgettable that film was.

20:13 Fiennes is an actor not a star?

26:31 Work in children's films

31:46 Odds and ends

37:19 Getting off topic and talking about physical media

43:27 Favorite Ralph Fiennes film

47:25 Digression about commentaries, food, other nonsense

51:24 Least favorite Ralph Fiennes film

54:51 Winding down; upcoming episode

56:45 Quick mention of two upcoming films


Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode

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1 year ago
57 minutes 54 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Terminators 1-3

Bob jumps straight into the topic this episode with SPOILERS from the very start. This episode we assume that you have at least a familiarity with the basic plot of the Terminator films even if, like Mark, you've never seen them. We discuss the first three films and ignore the latter three (which neither Bob nor Mark has seen). Enjoy!


00:10 Intro

00:45 Mark had not seen The Terminator; cultural significance and Schwarzenegger

05:37 Evolution from conclusive to open-ended

08:42 The Terminator

12:30 Does James Cameron care more about technical filmmaking than the story elements?

20:04 Masking the antagonist in Terminator 2

23:10 Linda Hamilton/Sarah Connor

25:41 Which is best and supporting cast

27:43 Terminator 3 is a real step down

31:12 Schwarzenegger is inextricably linked with the Terminator

34:05 Rough story moments in the second filmmaking

35:21 Edward Furlong - American History X

36:25 Robert Patrick

37:10 Kristanna Loken

40:25 Time travel and its problems

44:07 Special effects

48:35 Mild spoilers(?) for Reacher season 2

49:27 Prosthetic effects in The Terminator

52:08 Actor miscellany

56:35 Winding down


Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode

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1 year ago
58 minutes 40 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
2024 Midpoint

We return triumphantly with...a filler episode! Okay, they can't all be about timeless classics. This episode we look back at what we've seen so far and what is on the horizon. Mostly it's not great, but there were a few gems and several films which augur well. Minimal spoilers too! Enjoy!


00:17 Intro (and the brief return of the clicky pen!)

04:32 Bob's Top 5 of 2024 (so far)

08:32 Mark's movie-going (or lack thereof)

11:34 Bob raves about Perfect Days

13:58 What *should* movies be about? Are we jaded?

19:40 So many sequels/remakes on the horizon

23:57 The War of the Rohirrim

24:58 Writers strike and streaming

28:23 Movies we're looking forward to

31:38 Movies we *aren't* looking forward to

32:58 Back to The War of the Rohirrim

35:35 Upcoming release dates

42:14 Ralph Fiennes

44:00 Terminator(s)

45:49 Wrapping up


Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode

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1 year ago
49 minutes 26 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Denzel Washington

00:00 Intro

04:54 Starting the topic

06:55 What's the key understanding?

12:10 A role departure for Denzel Washington

15:57 Mark's choice for a unique Washington role

22:20 Another, similar, actor

23:52 It's not necessarily bad...

26:10 Glory

29:02 Comparing to Tom Cruise

31:51 Man on Fire vs The Equalizer

36:02 (It was from Sicario. -Ed.)

36:29 Noble self-sacrifice

39:42 Roman J. Israel, Esq.

41:40 Inside Man

43:00 Training Day

43:22 Mojo Jojo?

45:45 Wrapping up? No, of course not quite yet.

47:39 Much Ado About Nothing

50:05 Unstoppable

51:27 Two Guns

53:44 Manchurian Candidate(s)

55:40 Wrapping up for reals this time

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1 year ago
56 minutes 32 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Jane Austen Adaptations

Back this episode to talk about Jane Austen adaptations. There are many, but we only have time to watch and discuss a handful. At first Bob and Mark seem to be on the same page, but by the end...well, you'll hear. As ever, SPOILERS, but really, these stories are 200 years old. If you don't know them already, that's on you.


00:00 Introduction

2:28 Austen adaptations

7:25 Pride and Prejudice (1995 and 2005)

14:30 Bob compares it to Ozu, because of course he does, and we discuss the stories as a group

20:58 Persuasion (1995)

25:11 Social conventions

33:31 Emma (1996 and 2020)

40:29 Sense and Sensibility (1995)

47:30 Bob and Mark disagree vehemently on the relative quality of the films, then Sense and Sensibility specifically

51:47 Mark finds watching a group of similar movies back to back diminishes his enjoyment

52:36 The perils of watching a lot of movies

56:30 Wrapping up

58:31 Baseball!

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Music:
Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode

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1 year ago
1 hour 1 minute 18 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Akira Kurosawa Part II
This time it's the back half of a pair of episodes on Kurosawa. As ever, we're talking about the films with the assumption that you'll have seen them, so beware the fearsome SPOILER. Mark picked the movies for Part I and Bob has picked the films for Part II. We also talk a little about Shane and A Fistful of Dollars. Enjoy!00:10 Intro to Part 207:37 Yojimbo10:36 A Fistful of Dollars11:12 Accounts vary about exactly how much Kurosawa received, but he did win his lawsuit14:41 "Gamblers" as...
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1 year ago
1 hour 11 minutes 31 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Akira Kurosawa Part I
First of a pair of episodes about the great Japanese director Akira Kurosawa. Mark is dipping into his ouevre for the first time and Bob is revisiting many of his favorite movies. Featuring SPOILERS throughout, but also the return of the clicky pen! Listen at your own risk.00:10 Episode introduction04:08 Seven Samurai19:50 Wrong, Bob; three left20:10 Wrong again; 4 of 720:34 (Seems to be an audio error in the original recording dropping a fraction of a second...)25:14 The ending of Seven Samu...
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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 53 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
All the Dunes
This is as close as we get to jumping on the bandwagon of popular, recent films. We talk most about the Villeneuve Dune movies, but we also touch on the other iterations. No spoiler warnings in the episode, because the whole podcast is composed of SPOILERS!00:10 Intro - What's going to be covered and not04:50 There is no such thing as "spoiling" a 70 year old story; no spoiler warnings this podcast06:05 Dune, the novel13:35 The story from the novel changes in the transition to film15:55 ...
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1 year ago
1 hour 15 minutes 10 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Coen Bros. Part II
Bob finally stopped being lazy and got this edited. Wrapping up our discussion of the Coens and their films along with theme Mark thinks he's sussed out of their movies. As ever, SPOILERS!02:00 Why are we doing two episodes on the Coens?04:15 Blood Simple10:15 Spoilers begin in earnest16:49 Subscribers only (unfortunately): https://www.criterionchannel.com/videos/bill-hader-on-blood-simple21:17 The Big Lebowski23:59 Raymond Chandler33:50 Mark's thesis35:02 Inside Llewyn Davis42:24 Comparing O...
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1 year ago
1 hour 10 minutes

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Coen Bros. Part I
Another two part episode (at least two; we haven't recorded any more than this so far) this time around, but looking at a selection of Coen Brothers movies chosen by Mark. We discuss four of their films in this episode and plan to discuss four more. SPOILERS THROUGHOUT!Enjoy!00:43 Mark's flu podcast01:46 Introducing the topic04:10 Raising Arizona (SPOILERS BEGIN)20:55 M. Emmett WALSH (Bob apparently has football on the brain, he'll make the mistake again later too)24:26 Miller's Crossing42:48...
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1 year ago
1 hour 12 minutes 8 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
The Artist Part II
First episode of the new year is...finishing the topic we started at the end of last year. We're thinking about maybe tackling some smaller topics this year, but the best laid plans, etc. As ever with our podcast SPOILERS ABOUND! Listen at your own risk.00:10 Intro04:42 The Artist10:18 Would it work as a true silent movie?12:55 Mark doesn't like the title character16:32 Bob loves this movie27:24 The Descendants29:15 Connection to Sideways30:57 George Clooney32:29 The Artist vs The Descendants...
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1 year ago
1 hour 8 minutes 39 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
The Artist Part I
This time around we decided that since the 2012 Best Picture had 9 nominations, we'd split the discussion into two parts so we didn't have to either run very long or skim over films without discussing them. So 4 this episode, 5 next time.00:10 Intro and beard discussion03:47 Podcast topic - 2012 Best Picture06:05 Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close08:25 SPOILERS BEGIN!18:58 Hugo31:10 Midnight in Paris39:26 "Bougie" interlude40:39 Back to the film42:10 Owen Wilson, wow!42:47 Moneyball45:16 The...
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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 10 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...
Ben-Hur (1959)
Another movie that's (loosely) connected to the story of Jesus. We didn't plan it that way, but there it is. The other four films all have some connection to World War II, which at the time was still fresh in the mind for many people. We do have SPOILERS, but not so many as in other episodes? Listen at your own risk; as always we tend to talk about the films with the assumption that our listeners have seen them.00:10 Intro1:24 Monty Python boys3:31 Old films, color vs black and white fil...
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2 years ago
1 hour 13 minutes 10 seconds

And the Winner Should Have Been...

Discussing what movies *should* have won and film generally.