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And That's That On That

Haley Chapman, Gavyn Bailey

26 episodes

1 day ago

Best friends Haley Chapman and Gavyn Bailey host And That’s That On That. The hosts bring a wealth of knowledge and humor to each episode, featuring insightful interviews with accomplished artists and creators across various sectors of the industry such as Katie Gavin (MUNA), Zach Charles (A R I Z O N A), ELIO, Maddie Grace Jepson, Aidan Bissett, Gatlin and many others, as well as funny, real, and honest stories about living out their twenties. Every week brings something new. If you're a fan of chaotic conversation, this one is for you. Tune in every Monday wherever you stream podcasts.

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Best friends Haley Chapman and Gavyn Bailey host And That’s That On That. The hosts bring a wealth of knowledge and humor to each episode, featuring insightful interviews with accomplished artists and creators across various sectors of the industry such as Katie Gavin (MUNA), Zach Charles (A R I Z O N A), ELIO, Maddie Grace Jepson, Aidan Bissett, Gatlin and many others, as well as funny, real, and honest stories about living out their twenties. Every week brings something new. If you're a fan of chaotic conversation, this one is for you. Tune in every Monday wherever you stream podcasts.

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Episodes (20/26)

And That's That On That

S3/E5: And That’s On The Serenity Prayer

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You guys… we’re embarrassed (monkey covering eye emoji)… We didn’t mean to take another hiatus. But what matters is we’re back and this time, we’re here to stay. We SWEAR!

On this week’s solo episode, we cover everything from men’s Instagram reel activities and AI boyfriends, to eczema where the light don’t shine and… something about an Etsy witch. Our antics have never been more unstable. Buckle up and join us.. we promise we’re not going anywhere!

xoxo, Gavyn & Haley

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Credits:
Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey
Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.

Chapters:

00:00 Welcome Back and Reflections on Hiatus

02:44 The Journey of Trust and New Beginnings

06:35 Honorable Mentions and Personal Updates

08:25 Update on Gavyn's Kidney Search

11:39 Pit and Peak

15:23 Witchcraft and Love Spells

24:44 The Power of Compliments

27:51 Into It & Over It

28:00 Honoring Your Inner Child

30:22 Life-Changing Comforts: Air Conditioning

34:01 AI Relationships

40:28 Social Media and Male Behavior

45:25 Closing

1 day ago

49 minutes 6 seconds

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S3/E4: And That's On Artist Evolution w/ Aidan Bissett

In this episode, Gavyn and Haley chat with ⁠Aidan Bissett⁠, the 22-year-old singer-songwriter who traded in footballs for guitars and jumped into the TikTok game in 2020. Aidan shares about his early days on the app (before it became the ultimate launchpad for aspiring artists) and how he’s evolved musically with his new album, building on the success of "Planet."

But that’s not all—things get real as we explore therapy, the hunt for a good therapist, and our mental health status—spoiler alert: we’re doing our best! Aidan also takes us back to his all-boys school days, where his success didn’t always earn him high fives, and he dishes out some solid advice for new artists trying to navigate the wild world of today’s music industry. Plus so much more that we simply can’t squeeze into this description!

Music courtesy of Artlist.io

1 year ago

37 minutes 43 seconds

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S3/E3: And That’s On Being Lackluster and Adequate

In this week’s solo episode, Gavyn is back with a kidney update (spoiler alert: still failing), while Haley celebrates a win in the health department with a smooth biopsy experience (only slightly less painful than listening to people chew loudly).

In our brand-new segment, "Irritation Station," Haley shares how she unintentionally played cupid for exes—because why not add accidental matchmaking to her résumé? Meanwhile, Gavyn goes on a rant about his mortal enemies: Yelp reviewers. And just when you think he’s done, he reveals the time he was the unwitting star of a Yelp novel. It’s a story so spicy, you’ll feel compelled to leave a glowing review…

Tune in for health updates, Haley’s matchmaking mishaps, and Gavyn’s ongoing war with keyboard warriors.

Music courtesy of Artlist.io

1 year ago

43 minutes 55 seconds

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S3/E2: And That’s On Tea Spills and ADHD Thrills w/ Gatlin

Hold onto your headphones, folks, because this episode is the crème de la crème—like, top-tier catnip, for real. We somehow convinced the ridiculously talented Gatlin to be our second EVER in-person guest. And yes, we spilled all the tea on her career highlights, including that time her single "What If I Love You" barely scraped by with a teeny 70 million streams on Spotify (very casual, very chill).

We also dive into the thrilling world of Belmont University (go Bruins!), her cross-country move from Nashville to Los Angeles, and a bunch of other stuff that makes us sound like we know what we're doing. But let’s not kid ourselves—the real magic is in the chaos. Gatlin dishes on her TikTok trolls, shares her mutual obsession with black cats (she and Gavyn both have a Binx, which is clearly the universe flexing), and valiantly attempts to manage the ADHD-fueled tornado that is Gavyn and Haley. Spoiler alert: it’s a hot mess, but she gave it her all.

Hit play if you're ready for wisdom sprinkled with chaos. Warning: TikTok haters may leave feeling... surprisingly entertained.

Episode Vocabulary:

“That’s For Inside The Car” – Ya’ll need to edit this out of the episode.

“Rodent Boy Summer” – refers to a group of men who are considered attractive but also have some rodent-like features.

“Kiki-ing” – A casual gathering of friends for gossiping, sharing stories, and having a good time.

Music courtesy of Artlist.io

1 year ago

53 minutes 7 seconds

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S3/E1: And That's On Taking A Sabbatical

Well, well, well… look who's decided to grace us with their presence! After a whopping 700 something days of doing some questionable things (oh sorry, I meant on “sabbatical"), Haley and Gavyn are finally back on And That’s That On That. Clearly, their two-year vacation was exhausting, but they're thrilled to return! They’re back to bless your eardrums with tales from the last Ice Age (aka the past two years), including juicy stories (think bodily fluids) and Haley's sudden career shift to FBI undercover agent (or so she claims). Buckle up, it's going to be a wild ride! --- Follow us on socials for more chaotic content: @gavynbailey & @haleschaps & @andthatsthatpod ** Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop!** --- (Credits: Music by Ian Post and Nomad Producer, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman)

1 year ago

51 minutes 9 seconds

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S2/E12: And That's On Being 26 w/ Carol Ades

Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 12!!!! We are officially half way through the season and we’re back from our one-week hiatus! Today our guest is Carol Ades, a globally successful artist and songwriter who released her debut single “I Can’t Wait To Be British” in 2021, but has been writing hits behind the scenes for years under her full name, Caroline Pennell. She’s written hits such as “Past Life” for Trevor Daniel and Selena Gomez, “California Sober” for Demi Lovato, "I Don't Know Why" (with NOTD) by Astrid S., and many more. She was in the Top 8 on Season Five of The Voice, and has even written a musical with Justin Tranter and Idina Menzel called “Wild” that is now a sold out show at the American Repertory Theatre. We love an undercover superstar!!! And of course, we’ve got Pit or Peak for you this week…SPOILER: it involves Miss Rona herself. All of this chaotic content is ready for your ears…ENJOY!

*Interview begins at 18:47*

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(Credits: Music by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman)

3 years ago

43 minutes 52 seconds

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S2/E11: And That's On Instagram Filters and The Early 2010's w/ Will Jay

This week, Gavyn and Haley have artist and songwriter Will Jay join the pod! Will is a former member of the successful boy band IM5, as well as a former contestant on The Voice China, and now is making a name for himself as an artist and songwriter. He’s accumulated over a hundred thousand followers on Instagram, and millions of streams across streaming platforms. You’ll hear us chat about our thoughts on the music industry today, growing up within the music industry and how that affects adulthood, Will’s experience as a member of IM5, his journey on The Voice China and our nostalgia for old Instagram filters…And That’s That On That!

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NEW EPISODES EVERY OTHER THURSDAY!

Follow us on socials for more chaotic content: @gavynbailey & @haleschaps & @andthatsthatpod

** Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop!**

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(Credits: Music by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman)

3 years ago

47 minutes 34 seconds

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S2/E10: And That's On Mitchell Musso's Disappearance, Ham Stores & Comedic Legends w/ Eilise Guilfoyle

Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2, Episode 10!!!! Today we’ve got the viral TikTok star herself…EILISE GUILFOYLE! You’ve probably seen at least one of her viral TikToks all over your feed as she’s already racked up 7.4 million likes and 113,000 followers on the app, almost 18,000 followers on Instagram, and has starred in multiple film & TV projects. Gavyn & Haley crack open a drink and chat with Eilise all about her career so far, how she was raised working at her family’s ham store in Virginia inspiring her hilarious characters she’s created, and much much more. Plus we’ve got another chaotic round of pit or peak, of course. Another chaotic episode starts right now…AND THAT’S THAT ON THAT.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman)

3 years ago

51 minutes 45 seconds

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S2/E9: And That’s On Your 20’s Never Going As Planned w/ Guest Davey Arnold

Hello hello hello ATTOT listeners and Happy Pride month! On this week’s episode, you’ll get an honest life update from Gavyn & Haley. We’re opening up about why your 20’s are confusing, exciting, uncomfortable, unpredictable, lonely, challenging and just flat out overrated. Life is hard and full of ups and downs, so we’re in your ears this week telling it how it is! We’ve also got a new guest popping in all the way from Nashville - Davey Arnold! He’s a baseball player turned country singer/songwriter that’s currently chasing his dreams in Music City, and climbing the charts as he goes. You can hear him featured on huge Spotify playlists like Hot Country, New Boots, and more. Welcome to Episode 9 friends! And That’s That On That.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Host Socials: @haleschaps and @gavynbailey. ** Don't forget to subscribe & hit the notification bell!**

3 years ago

43 minutes 18 seconds

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S2/E8: And That's On Being A Serial Songwriter w/ Shelly Peiken

Hey all, Happy Thursday!! Welcome back to another episode of And That’s That On That. This month we’re spotlighting songwriters and we’re so excited to continue the streak with x2 GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, Shelly Peiken! You may know the songs she’s written such as “Bitch” by Meredith Brooks, “What A Girl Wants” and “Come On Over Baby” by Christina Aguilera, “I’m A Mess” by Bebe Rexha, “Who You Are” by Jessie J, and has written for other artists like Keith Urban, Britney Spears, Brandy, Celine Dion, Miley Cyrus, Backstreet Boys, Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato and the list goes on… She is the author of the book “Confessions of A Serial Songwriter,” an amusing and poignant memoir about Shelly's journey from young girl falling under the spell of magical songs to a working professional songwriter creating smash hits of her own. She joins us today to chat about her life in the music industry writing some of music’s biggest hits, the present day music industry, and how things have changed since she started almost thirty years ago. Plus, on this week's "Pit or Peak," Haley has a not so pleasant experience at the doctors and Gavyn has his yearly existential crisis! And That's That On That.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Host Socials: @haleschaps and @gavynbailey. ** Don't forget to subscribe & hit the notification bell!**

3 years ago

47 minutes 43 seconds

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S2/E7: And That's On Songwriting in Nashville w/ Tofer Brown

Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 7! This week our guest is a GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, one of Nashville’s most successful songwriters currently, Tofer Brown! He’s written hit songs like “Ocean” for Lady A, “Night Shift” for Jon Pardi, “Better With You” by Jason Mraz, as well as chart-topping songs for artists like Little Big Town, Kari Jobe, Darius Rucker, Britt Nicole, Ruelle, Emily Weisband and even songs for the CMT hit series “Nashville”. You’ll hear all about how Gavyn discovered Tofer via MySpace then later wrote songs with him on a trip to Nashville at the ripe age of 15 (lol). We’ve also got another week of ‘Pit or Peak’, which includes a wild turn of events (a curveball if you will) for Haley, and an update on where in the world Gavyn is living (at the moment). All of this is ready for your ears! And That’s That On That.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Host Socials: @haleschaps and @gavynbailey. ** Don't forget to subscribe! **

3 years ago

49 minutes 55 seconds

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S2/E6: And That’s On Almost Missing Your Set At Coachella w/ Zachary Charles of A R I Z O N A

Ok fine maybe we’re just a little Nostalgic…This week’s guest is Zachary Charles of A R I Z O N A!!!! We’re seeing signs we’re freaking out…but seriously. We are such huge fans of Zach and his band A R I Z O N A and we may or may not have been manifesting him as a guest ever since we started this little show of ours. We had a lot to catch up on since we saw him perform at Coachella in 2019, so you guys will get to hear all about how Zach almost became a history teacher instead of the lead singer of a massively successful band, his thoughts on Coachella and how the band almost missed their set, what the pandemic taught him, and what he wishes he knew when he started out in his career. WELCOME TO SEASON 2 EPISODE 6! And That's That On That.

A R I Z O N A has proven a true planetary phenomenon, creating worldwide waves with their ingenious brand of contemporary electronic dance pop. You may know their hits such as “Electric Touch,” “I Was Wrong,” and the RIAA gold-certified “Oceans Away.” In addition, A R I Z O N A can be heard on Avicii’s “Hold The Line (Feat. A R I Z O N A),” from the late artist’s posthumous album, TIM. 2019’s ASYLUM saw them brilliantly and boldly build on this foundation with “Freaking Out,” “Nostalgic,” “Problems,” “Where You Are,” and more.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content!

3 years ago

1 hour 22 minutes 13 seconds

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S2/E5: And That's On Getting Blocked By A Real Housewife and Saying Gay w/ Blake Adam

On this week's episode of ATTOT, we sit down with Blake Adam, a pop-culture connoisseur, music industry executive, and host of the Bravo-holic podcast "Blonde Hair Black Heart". Blake serves hot takes on notable moments from TV, movies, music, & more, plus celebrity interviews, politics, and even spills the story of how he got blocked by a real housewife that you definitely know... Plus, he tells us all about his journey of adopting with his husband Matthew John! Blake also gives us his take on the "Don't Say Gay" bill and his experience growing up as an LGBTQ+ kid. We had so much to talk about that “Pit or Peak” simply had to wait until next episode! And That’s That On That.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Don't forget to subscribe!

3 years ago

57 minutes 55 seconds

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S2/E4: And That’s On Being A Pop Protégé w/ Guest ELIO

On this week's episode, we sat down for an interview with Canadian artist/songwriter ELIO! Discovered and co-managed by Charli XCX, she is making huge waves in music only two years after her debut. Listen in as we talk about ELIO's musical beginnings, how she was discovered by Charli XCX, how her career took off during the pandemic, her thoughts on TikTok and the music industry, writing for other artists, and much more. Plus, Haley asks the universe how good it gets... and let's just say she delivers + Gavyn finally returns to the recording studio and.… the hospital? This week's Pit or Peak will reveal all! And That’s That On That.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Don't forget to subscribe!

3 years ago

47 minutes 17 seconds

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S2/E3: And That's On Going Viral w/ Guest Maddie Grace Jepson

Welcome back to another episode of ATTOT! We’re so happy you’re here. This week we got to sit down with TikTok sensation, Maddie Grace Jepson! We’re both huge fans and were dying to get the chance to chat with her. Listen as we dive into how Maddie went viral, her process behind her videos, the toxic side of TikTok, and her plans for the future! Plus Haley meets a lizard named Felix and Gavyn gets the cops involved on this week’s “Pit or Peak!”

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Don't forget to subscribe!

3 years ago

1 hour 1 minute 24 seconds

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S2/E2: And That’s On Spray Tans, Intrustive Thoughts, And Social Media In The Music Industry w/ Guest "nightly"

Hello hello and welcome BACK to another episode of ATTOT! We’re still recovering from the excitement of our first episode with Katie Gavin of MUNA and we get to continue our incredible lineup of guests on today’s episode with Mr. Jonathan Capeci from one of our favorite bands, nightly! We’ll be discussing the beginnings of Jonny’s career, how nightly became so successful, his experiences on tour, his take on today’s music industry and the impact social media has on it, and so much more. Plus find out why there’s a slightly orange hue about Haley on this week’s ‘Pit Or Peak.’ And That’s That On That!

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Don't forget to subscribe!

3 years ago

49 minutes 41 seconds

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S2/E1: And That’s On Bad Tattoos, TikTok’s Algorithm and Unhinged ADHD w/ Guest Katie Gavin of MUNA

Hello hello hello and WELCOME TO THE SEASON 2 PREMIERE!!! To kick off this season we’ve got our BIGGEST GUEST YET. Please welcome to And That’s That On That, the lead singer of MUNA…KATIE GAVIN! Tune-in as we talk about Katie’s beginnings in music, how MUNA was formed, going on tour with Kacey Musgraves, Katie’s take on LGBTQ+ representation in the music industry, and signing with a new label during a pandemic. Also, you’ll find out how Haley got locked out of her apartment and what landed Gavyn in the hospital in this week's “Pit or Peak.” Get ready for this season…we’ve got SO much in store for you guys. PLUS, NEW EPISODES EVERY OTHER THURSDAY! And That’s That On That.

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(Credits: Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman) Follow us on TikTok and Instagram for more chaotic content! Don't forget to subscribe!

3 years ago

50 minutes 24 seconds

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S1/E10: And That’s On Growth w/ Guest Love You Later

Annnnddd we’re back for EPISODE TEN! Our season finale! Can you believe?! To celebrate, we’ve invited our friend Lexi Aviles, a.k.a. "Love You Later," to join our final episode of the year. She’s an artist and songwriter absolutely killing it in the pop game right now. With upwards of 50k monthly listeners on Spotify, three killer EPs out in the world, including her most recent "Mouthwash,”––This is only the beginning for this dream-pop icon, and we're thrilled to “Chit Chat” about the latest in her life and career. Listen in as Gavyn and Haley catch up on the last two months, spill the astrological tea, and get giddy about what’s in store for next season. © 2021 And That’s That On That. Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman.

4 years ago

56 minutes 25 seconds

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S1/E9: And That's On Going Back To School w/ Guest Kyle Reynolds

On this month’s episode (#9 - the second to last of this season!), Gavyn & Haley are chatting with the very talented singer, songwriter, producer and fellow Orange County native, Kyle Reynolds! In addition to being a childhood friend of Gavyn’s, Kyle is an accomplished and seasoned musician that just released his hit single with Griffyn, “The Best Is Yet To Come”. The song has already hit over 8 MILLION STREAMS on Spotify alone! Kyle has earned himself 1.5 million monthly listeners and has written with artists such as Why Don’t We, Cheat Codes, and countless others. We also dive deep into personal topics with Kyle such as being a Christian in the pop-music world, our high school horror stories, and of course, PIT & PEAK. Happy pre-season finale!!!! And That’s That On That. © 2021 And That's That On That. Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman. Support us on Anchor!

4 years ago

1 hour 17 minutes 24 seconds

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S1/E8: And That’s On Cosmic Energy w/ Guest Madi Murphy of CosmicRx

Remember when we said we would have an astrologer on the show?! WELL HERE SHE IS. Welcome to And That’s That On That, the founder of The CosmicRx...MADI MURPHY! Madi is an astrologer, intuitive healer, empowerment mentor, cosmic consultant, and the mind behind the CosmicRx birth chart that went viral earlier this year. CosmicRx has been named as one of the wellness industry’s top 100 luminaries and has been featured in publications such as Vogue, Refinery29, Bustle, ELLE, the New York Times and more. Madi also has her own podcast called CosmicRx Radio that dives deep into topics like astrology, self-care, modern mysticism, mindset magic and conscious entrepreneurship. In this episode she drops tons of knowledge on all things astrology, spirituality and all the cosmic energy going on in the universe right now. GET READY FOR EPISODE 8 Y’ALL...And That’s That On That. © 2021 And That's That On That. Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman. Support us on Anchor!

4 years ago

50 minutes 57 seconds