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An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
twonomos
75 episodes
1 day ago
In An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar, two previously unlikely friends, Kate and Erika, spill the tea (and maybe a little booze) on the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon church. Recorded at The Break Sports Bar and Grill in South Jordan, Utah, the two share their perspectives as an ExMormon and one who has never belonged to the Mormon faith, both having lived and worked in Mormon Central. Join them as they deconstruct Mormonism, one cocktail at a time. *Warning: This content contains explicit language.*
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In An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar, two previously unlikely friends, Kate and Erika, spill the tea (and maybe a little booze) on the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon church. Recorded at The Break Sports Bar and Grill in South Jordan, Utah, the two share their perspectives as an ExMormon and one who has never belonged to the Mormon faith, both having lived and worked in Mormon Central. Join them as they deconstruct Mormonism, one cocktail at a time. *Warning: This content contains explicit language.*
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An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Ep. 33 - Can't See the Forest for the Oaks
The new patriarch is in town! In this episode, Kate & Erika discuss the Mormon church's new prophet, Dallin H. Oaks. The man comes with controversy and they unpack it with their signature humor, empathy, and cocktails.  Recorded in Salt Lake City this podcast is NOT intended to strengthen the faith of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Listener discretion is advised. Please visit our website: www.twonomos.com Follow Two NoMos on Facebook Follow Kate on TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram @Midlife Exmo Follow Erika's on TikTok as @imerikana or on her blog at www.erikarachelstone.com #exmormon #nevermomon #mormonculture #utahculture #thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints
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23 hours ago
56 minutes

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Ep. 32 - My Cousin Vallow: The Story of Lori Vallow with Guest Megan Conner
Megan Conner shares her inside perspective on the Lori Vallow murders, with René Steelman stepping in for Kate.
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1 week ago
1 hour 30 minutes

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 31 - The Missionary Position: "At Least a Book of Mormon Apart"
Mormon missions are grueling. Kate reveals all the strict, oppressive rules missionaries must adhere to while providing FREE labor to the church as sales reps who pay for their own missions. It's basically an MLM from hell, with no hope of ever making so much as a penny in return....
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1 month ago
1 hour 17 minutes

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 30 - S(ex)-Communicated! With Guest Natasha Helfer
Abusers, manipulators, groomers are all allowed to stay in the Mormon church. Some are even promoted to the upper echelons of leadership.But Natasha Helfer was excommunicated for refusing to say things like "Masturbation is a sin." This is her s(ex) communication story.
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2 months ago
1 hour 30 minutes

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 29 - Rising Through the Flames With Guest Megan Conner
Megan Conner is a remarkable woman with a remarkable story. In this episode, she discusses recovery after being trafficked as a seven-year-old child, and leaving an abusive marriage as an adult. Now she is thriving and using her voice to help others.Special thanks to René Steelman for stepping in once again as a stellar co-host! If you aren't already listening to her podcast, "The Midlife Revolution With Megan Conner," check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/@Third_Verse!
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2 months ago
1 hour 41 minutes 6 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Bishop Said WHAT?!?!
Being forced to do things in the sack is a-ok according to the Mormon church, as long as it’s to “keep your family together.” 😳🤮Two NoMos loved chatting with Joe Rawlins on this episode of, “An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar…”!   Check out Joe's podcast, "The Church of Korihor," here: https://www.youtube.com/@hellfireagency.
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2 months ago
1 minute 50 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 28 - Restoration or Racketeering? With Guest Joe Rawlins
Two NoMos continue to explore the lies, fabrications, and discrepancies from the Mormon church that were exposed by the CES Letter. Joe Rawlins lends his expertise. Check out his podcast, "The Church of Korihor," here: https://www.youtube.com/@hellfireagency
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2 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes 20 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Joseph Smith Was a FRAUD
Joseph Smith was a fraud and a scheister. There is SO MUCH information readily available to refute most of his claims, it’s bonkers that there is even a single member left in the Mormon church.Two NoMos absolutely LOVED chatting with Rob Tobler on this episode of our podcast, “An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar…”!You can find more of Rob's content here: https://www.tiktok.com/@president_please_help_me
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2 months ago
58 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 27 - Joseph Smith: Lost in Translation With Guest Rob Tobler
Two NoMos dive further into the lies exposed by the CES letter with special guest, Rob Tobler.You can find more content from Rob on TikTok at @president_please_help_me.
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2 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 37 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Responding to Mormon Missionaries....
Most people are annoyed when the Mormon missionaries come a knockin'. Erika is not most people...
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2 months ago
1 minute 11 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Structurally Supported Abuse in the Mormon Church
All of Erika's hairs stood on end when she heard this talk by Alyssa Grenfell at the Sunstone Symposium. Abuse of children is actually baked in to the structure of the church.  Bone chilling.Check out the podcast, "Architecture of Abuse" at https://architectureofabuse.com/ to learn more.
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2 months ago
1 minute 23 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Piety to Obtain a Bangin Wife?
Mormons like to say they are "In the world but not of the world." But the very worldly messaging young missionary men receive is anything but pious, and about as basic and worldly as you can get...
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3 months ago
2 minutes 11 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 26 - Shining at Sunstone
Kate and Erika had a phenomenal time at the Sunstone Symposium, attending talks by Natasha Helfer, John Dehlin, and Alyssa Grenfell. In this episode, they discuss the highlights.
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3 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 57 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
"No One From the Church Called When My Son Died."
Guest René Steelman's son died on Christmas Day. Because she had recently left the Mormon faith, no one from the church bothered to reach out to her with comfort. Their "love" was conditional on her being a member. Which is to say, not really love at all. Check out this phenomenal woman's podcast, "She Became Visible," here: https://www.youtube.com/@SheBecameVisible513/videos.
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3 months ago
51 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
The EXACT Moment Kate Left the Mormon Church
The CES letter that highlights all the hypocrisy, falsehoods, and discrepancies of the Mormon church broke Kate's "shelf." So she informed her bishop with confidence and in no uncertain terms that she was leaving.
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3 months ago
59 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Natasha Helfer EXCOMMUNICATED for Sharing Facts
Kate, Erika, and René discuss the excommunication of therapist Natasha Helfer from the Mormon church for sharing factual information with her clients. She refused to spread the harmful messaging that masturbation is a "sin," and so she got the boot.
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3 months ago
33 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 25 - Belief CES-Sation: Examining the CES Letter
It’s been two years since Kate left the LDS Church—and what better way to mark the occasion than with a deep dive into the infamous document that helped blow her shelf to smithereens? In this episode, Kate and Erika unpack the CES Letter: what it is, how it landed, and why it continues to shake testimonies and stir up existential crises across Mormonism. Expect laughter, tears, a little righteous rage, and a whole lot of “Ohhh, that’s why that never made sense!” Whether you’ve read the CES Letter cover to cover or you’re just Mormon-curious, this episode is your invitation to question boldly and heal loudly.
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3 months ago
1 hour 21 minutes

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Women Can Grow Humans AND Be Great Leaders
We tried, we really tried to get through a significant chunk of and episode of Ward Radio" with Joe Rawlins on his podcast, "The Church of Korihor." But these Two No Mos just couldn't keep their mouths shut when preposterous statements were made by the show's hosts.See the full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3orkcY7uU8&t=3551s
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3 months ago
1 minute 51 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Season 2 Ep. 8 - Let's Talk About Mental Health, Baby!
In this episode, an ExMo and a NeverMo and another ExMo talk about the effects of Mormonism on mental health. Buckle up for some deep conversations, laughter, and an announcement about the future of the podcast!Check out the article from the Deseret News: https://www.deseret.com/2023/6/20/23759342/latter-day-saint-mental-health-research/Recorded at Land of a Thousand Hills in South Jordan, UT, this podcast is NOT intended to strengthen the faith of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Listener discretion is advised.***WARNING: This podcast is created for adult audiences only. Content warnings for this episode include explicit language. Our website www.twonomos.com is still under construction. Until it's published... Follow Two NoMos on Facebook Follow Kate on TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram @Midlife Exmo Follow Erika on TikTok as @imerikana or on her blog at www.erikarachelstone.comFollow René on TikTok as Go Gray Dame and follower her podcast, She Became Visible here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/she-became-visible/id1620041558
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3 months ago
1 hour 24 minutes 26 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
"You're Taught to Hate Yourself."
Kate and Erika had a wonderful chat with Jonathan Alder, who wrote “Closeted,” about his experiences as a gay student at BYU. Spoiler alert: The experiences were not good.You can find his book here: amazon.com/Closeted-Life-Gay-Student-Memoir-ebook/dp/B0B3JFGRGB
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3 months ago
42 seconds

An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
In An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar, two previously unlikely friends, Kate and Erika, spill the tea (and maybe a little booze) on the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon church. Recorded at The Break Sports Bar and Grill in South Jordan, Utah, the two share their perspectives as an ExMormon and one who has never belonged to the Mormon faith, both having lived and worked in Mormon Central. Join them as they deconstruct Mormonism, one cocktail at a time. *Warning: This content contains explicit language.*