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Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Michael Sidgmore
167 episodes
5 days ago
Alt Goes Mainstream podcast is the place to turn to for interviews with some of the brightest and most experienced minds in the world at the intersection private markets and wealth management. AGM dives into investment strategies like private equity (PE), private credit, venture capital (VC), secondaries, GP stakes, infrastructure, real estate, wealth management, and comprehensively covers tools and frameworks for approaching private markets, such as asset allocation, evergreen funds, model portfolios, and more. For anyone looking to invest into private markets (from experienced wealth managers to family offices to the individual investor looking for a more diversified investment portfolio), you’ll hear inside stories from executives and founders at some of the world’s largest financial institutions, alternative asset managers firms, and wealth management firms. More than a personal finance podcast, Alt Goes Mainstream dives deep into trends, investment strategies, firm building lessons, and innovative technologies that are enabling investors to access private markets.
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Alt Goes Mainstream podcast is the place to turn to for interviews with some of the brightest and most experienced minds in the world at the intersection private markets and wealth management. AGM dives into investment strategies like private equity (PE), private credit, venture capital (VC), secondaries, GP stakes, infrastructure, real estate, wealth management, and comprehensively covers tools and frameworks for approaching private markets, such as asset allocation, evergreen funds, model portfolios, and more. For anyone looking to invest into private markets (from experienced wealth managers to family offices to the individual investor looking for a more diversified investment portfolio), you’ll hear inside stories from executives and founders at some of the world’s largest financial institutions, alternative asset managers firms, and wealth management firms. More than a personal finance podcast, Alt Goes Mainstream dives deep into trends, investment strategies, firm building lessons, and innovative technologies that are enabling investors to access private markets.
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Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Capital Allocators' Ted Seides - the capital allocator behind the mic

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

What happens when two podcasters walk into a room? 

They talk.

Today’s podcast turns the tables on one of the industry’s leading podcasters and content creators to have him share his story and experience as an allocator and content creator.
 

We sat down with Ted Seides, the Founder of industry-leading podcast Capital Allocators and former President and Co-CIO of Protégé Partners and an asset allocator at the Yale Endowment.

Ted has had a tremendous career at the intersection of asset allocation and content, so it was fascinating to hear his perspectives on the state of the industry and how it’s evolving from someone who talks with many of the industry’s leading minds through his podcast, Capital Allocators.

Ted and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:

  • Stories and lessons learned from working with David Swensen at the Yale Endowment.
  • What the wealth channel can learn from institutional investors.
  • What Ted looked for in hedge funds and alternative asset managers when doing manager due diligence.
  • Ted’s bet with Buffett on hedge funds and why he’s now doing a bet on PE versus public equities.
  • How alternative asset managers are evolving and the pros and cons of evergreen structures.
  • Why and how Ted started Capital Allocators and why content is so critical to learning asset management and understanding how firms operate.

Capital Allocators is one of my favorite podcast listens and Ted always delivers with high-quality and thoughtful content so it was an honor to have him on the show.

Thanks Ted for sharing your expertise and wisdom on asset allocation and content and for the service you provide to everyone in the industry through education and the creation of such high-quality content for us to consume.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper Square

When was the last time things were easy for GPs?

Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.

It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.

Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.

But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?

Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.

Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.

And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.

Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.

Show Notes
00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square

00:38 Juniper Square's AI Capabilities

01:40 Guest Introduction: Ted Seides

04:03 Lessons from Yale Endowment

04:46 David Swensen's Investment Principles

05:51 Evolution of the Endowment Model

05:58 Wealth Channel vs. Institutional Investors

08:09 Access to Top Managers

11:16 Alpha in Private Markets

12:32 Ted's Bet with Buffett

13:10 Private Equity vs. Public Equities

17:16 Private Equity Diversification

18:45 Hedge Fund Industry Lessons

20:07 Private Equity Fee Structures

24:03 Talent Migration in Private Markets

26:47 Evaluating Investment Culture

27:15 Investment Philosophy and Strategy

28:26 Ted's Approach to Manager Evaluation

29:46 Impact of AI on Diligence Processes

30:20 Defining Investment Edge

30:33 Behavioral and Analytical Edge

31:01 Informational and Technical Edge

31:27 Evaluating Investment Managers

31:37 Impactful Investment Decisions

31:52 Mistakes and Learning

32:53 The Hardest Time to Invest

34:14 Behavioral Biases in Investing

34:51 Decision-Making Processes

36:28 The Role of AI in Investing

38:07 Content and Investment Decisions

39:25 Starting Capital Allocators

41:00 Learning from Podcasting

43:40 Building a Business from a Podcast

45:26 The Value of Relationships in Investing

47:06 Content Strategy for Managers

49:44 Effective Content Modalities

50:43 Direct Communication vs. Algorithms

51:13 Brand vs. Direct Sales

52:35 Insights from Podcast Conversations

54:23 Favorite Private Market Investments

56:05 AI and Investment Perspectives

57:37 Partnering with AI Experts

58:12 The Importance of People in Investing

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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3 days ago
58 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Hg's Nic Humphries - investing at an inflection point in history

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is about mining for investment success in enterprise software by going “an inch wide and a mile deep” with someone who is one of the industry’s most prolific private equity technology investors.

We sat down with Nic Humphries in Hg’s London office. Nic is the Senior Partner and Executive Chairman of Hg and Head of the firm’s Saturn fund.

Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused on mission-critical enterprise software. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.

Nic is responsible for Hg’s strategy, management, and governance. On the investing side, Nic focuses on larger software investments that provide daily-use mission critical applications for accountants, tax / compliance professionals, and designers / engineers / scientists. He has brought his electrical engineering background to bear to go a “mile deep” into a category where Hg has become an unquestioned market leader.

Nic balances being both a detail-oriented specialist with a vision for both the enterprise software industry and Hg as a firm. We had a fascinating discussion about enterprise software investing, how to create European software giants, applying AI to make companies more efficient, and much more.

We covered:

  • The origin story of Hg.
  • How Hg grew into one of the industry’s leading software focused private equity firms.
  • How an engineering mindset has helped Nic become a leading investor.
  • Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.
  • Why enterprise software investing can be considered a low volatility investment strategy and how Hg has delivered consistent returns to investors.
  • How to effectively manage exits and DPI.
  • Why Europe, why now?
  • How AI could impact technology and services businesses.

Thanks Nic for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about enterprise software and private markets.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper Square

When was the last time things were easy for GPs?

Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.

It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.

Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.

But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?

Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.

Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.

And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.

Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.

Show Notes
00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square

01:40 Introducing Nic Humphries

01:56 Hg's Investment Strategy

04:03 Nic's Background and Career Journey

04:46 Engineering Mindset in Investing

05:14 Long-Term Business Thinking

05:58 Hg's Focus on Accounting Software

06:45 Growth Drivers in SMB Market

09:05 Impact of AI on Enterprise Software

09:34 Platform Shifts in Technology

11:10 Adapting to AI in Business

12:15 Mission Critical Software

14:02 Challenges of AI Integration

14:58 Embedding Products and Services

17:13 Organic Growth vs. Acquisitions

20:51 Geographical Expansion Strategies

21:59 European vs. North American Markets

23:30 Management Teams and Expansion

24:32 Jurisdictional Challenges in Europe

25:05 Hg's Investment Philosophy

25:50 Mission Critical Software in Europe

36:22 Hg's Consistent Investment Returns

38:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

40:13 Understanding Recurring Revenues

40:59 The Importance of Discipline in Investing

41:48 Learning from Past Experiences

43:30 Maintaining Excitement and Focus

45:26 The Role of Realization Committees

46:44 Continuous Improvement Culture

47:42 The Importance of Cash Returns

48:51 Exit Strategies and Realization Committees

50:32 Re-underwriting Investments

52:40 AI's Impact on Software Development

54:17 The Rule of 40 and AI

54:38 Investing in AI: Startups vs. Established Businesses

55:59 Hg's Growth Strategy

58:56 Specialization in B2B Back Office Software

01:01:35 Fund Structure and Management

01:03:27 Expanding into the Wealth Channel

01:03:48 Hg Capital Trust and Fusion Fund

01:05:27 Communicating with a Broader Audience

01:06:39 The Importance of Brand in Wealth Management

01:07:32 Connecting Private Markets to Everyday Life

01:09:36 The Prevalence of Private Companies

01:11:09 Aligning Interests with Investors

01:12:19 Investment Decisions and Long-term Growth

01:14:21 Future Growth Opportunities for Hg

01:16:38 The Role of AI in Future Investments

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Disclaimer

The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any affiliated organization.

Any references to past performance, including IRR or MOIC figures, are presented on a gross basis and do not reflect the deduction of fees, expenses, or carried interest. These figures are illustrative and not necessarily indicative of future results. 

Statements regarding industry rankings, success rates, or performance consistency are based on internal analysis and may not be indepe...

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1 week ago
1 hour 22 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Live from Miami with EQT's Peter Aliprantis - bringing global local

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s conversation brings us beachside, featuring a live podcast from Soho Beach House in Miami with EQT Partner, Head of Private Wealth Americas Peter Aliprantis.

With the backdrop of the beach behind us and the wealth community in the audience, Peter and I discussed the nuances of the wealth channel and how Peter’s experience working with wealth is brought to bear as he brings EQT’s brand and capabilities to the Americas wealth channel.

Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the private wealth solutions world, garnering over 25 years of experience in the space. Prior to joining EQT, Peter spent 12 years at TPG Angelo Gordon as a Managing Director, where he focused on new business development and intermediary distribution.

Peter and I had a fascinating, lively, and thought-provoking conversation which then turned into an intellectually rich dinner discussion with the guests. Listen in — we hope you enjoy.

You can also read a recent AGM Op-Ed by Peter here. 

Many of the themes that Peter discussed in our conversation, particularly around evergreen funds and why model portfolios are the next big innovation in private markets, were covered in his Op-Ed.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper Square

When was the last time things were easy for GPs?

Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.

It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.

Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.

But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?

Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.

Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.

And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.

Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.

Show Notes

00:04 Juniper Square: Revolutionizing Fund Management

01:38 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream

01:43 Live from Soho Beach House, Miami with EQT’s Peter Aliprantis

02:43 Navigating Current Markets

02:58 Volatility in Public Markets

04:53 Global Investment Trends

05:16 Investor Behavior and Global Markets

05:32 Private Markets in Europe and Asia

06:43 Investment Opportunities in Asia

07:27 Private Markets Outperforming in Europe

07:37 Wealth Channel Conversations

08:18 EQT's Global Footprint

08:57 Mega Trends in Global Investment

09:29 Data Centers and Energy Needs

11:17 Natural Gas and Carbon Capture

11:57 Nuclear Energy and Modular Reactors

12:43 Investment Scale and Origination

13:06 Evergreen Structures in Private Markets

16:28 Opco Structures Explained

17:15 Evergreen Structures and Investor Access

17:54 Institutional Adoption of Evergreen Structures

21:32 Model Portfolios in Wealth Channel

22:29 Manager Selection and Performance

23:34 Client Servicing and Education

27:43 Early Days in Wealth Channel Allocation

28:39 Benefits and Limitations of Evergreen Structures

29:11 Quick Fire Questions

29:26 Exciting Investment Strategies

30:16 Risks in Private Markets

31:12 Using Private Markets in Portfolios

32:35 Next Big Innovation: Model Portfolios

32:46 Intersection of Public and Private Markets

33:22 Moving Beyond the 60/40 Portfolio


Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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2 weeks ago
34 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
SageSpring Private Wealth's Winston Justice - from protecting star quarterbacks to protecting families' wealth

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s podcast is with an elite performer on and off the field who has gone from protecting quarterbacks to protecting families’ wealth.

We sit down with former NFL and USC star Winston Justice, whose entrepreneurial spirit that was stoked while he was still playing in the NFL has led to a successful and impactful career in wealth management. 

He was recently named CEO at SageSpring Private Wealth, a $7B independent wealth management firm, as they look to grow organically and inorganically and expand their offerings in private markets for their clients.

A former NFL offensive lineman, Winston played for the Philadelphia Eagles, Indianapolis Colts, and Denver Broncos from 2006 to 2015. He also co-founded an early stage investment vehicle, MJC Capital, and Elixr, a gourmet café and coffee roastery, while he was playing. He also won 2010 Walter Payton Philadelphia Man of the Year Award for his community service.

He transitioned into financial services and wealth management post-career, starting at Wells Fargo Securities, where he specialized in institutional and family office advisory. He then was a portfolio manager at PIA’s Alternative Investment Group, and then an investment Manager at AllianceBernstein.

Winston and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:

  • The parallels between sports and finance.
  • How Winston navigated the transition from professional athlete to a finance professional.
  • What stoked his entrepreneurial spirit.
  • Why wealth management is so critical to people’s lives. 
  • Why culture fit is so important when integrating advisors into wealth management platforms through acquisition.
  • How private markets can add to an advisor’s practice.

Thanks Winston for coming on the show to share your story, wisdom, and expertise.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper Square

When was the last time things were easy for GPs?

Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.

It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.

Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.

But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?

Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.

Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.

And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.

Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.

Show Notes
00:04 Our Sponsor, Juniper Square: Revolutionizing Fund Management

00:30 Empowering GPS with Juniper Square

00:38 Juniper Square's AI Innovation

00:51 Scaling Your Business with Juniper Square

01:37 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast

01:40 Introducing Winston Justice

03:35 Winston's Background and Early Life

03:49 College Years and Initial Business Ventures

03:59 Realization and Transition to Finance

04:10 Starting a VC Fund and Coffee Shops

04:31 Transitioning from NFL to Finance

05:04 Winston's Career at Wells Fargo and Beyond

05:17 Immersing in Wealth Management

07:01 The Sacredness of Financial Management

07:50 Importance of Wealth Management

08:04 Private Markets in Wealth Management

08:19 Early Lessons in Wealth Management

09:10 Transferring Values and Knowledge

09:32 Managing Assets Beyond Numbers

10:19 Combining Finance and Mission

12:11 Mentoring Advisors at SageSpring

12:43 Skill Sets for SageSpring Advisors

12:51 Client Focus and Community Leadership

14:01 Balancing Client Delivery and Business Growth

14:56 Impact of Growing AUM

16:10 Testing Advisors' Commitment

16:55 Business Constructs in Wealth Management

17:43 Division of Labor in Wealth Management

18:52 SageSpring's Unique Approach

19:53 Client Understanding of Fiduciary Role

20:41 Trust in Financial Services

21:17 Sophistication in Choosing Investment Partners

21:57 Role of Relationship in Financial Services

22:30 Evaluating Investment Opportunities

23:44 Partnership with Dynasty Financial

24:43 Customizing Investment Solutions

26:44 Educating Wealth Managers on Private Markets

27:00 Benefits of Alternatives in Portfolios

30:48 Effective Storytelling in Investments

32:13 Future of Wealth Management Industry

33:08 Client and Advisor Service in Wealth Management

34:55 Favorite Private Markets Investment

37:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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3 weeks ago
38 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Future Proof Citywide Replay: Alt Goes Mainstream Live with Blue Owl's Marc Zahr

Future Proof, which holds one of the industry’s largest wealth conferences, invited me to hold a live podcast earlier this year with Blue Owl Co-President and Global Head of Real Assets Marc Zahr. 

Marc is a pioneer in the real estate space, building Blue Owl into a market leader in the triple net lease strategy, a commercial real estate investment strategy that is becoming increasingly popular for real estate investors, tenants (think large corporates like Amazon, Walgreens, Dollar General), and investors alike.

Blue Owl’s Real Assets business has over $67.1B AUM, owning over 5,600 assets and partnering with over 800 tenants.
 

Marc founded Oak Street, the predecessor firm to Blue Owl, in 2009 with $17M AUM. Listening to Marc talk about the evolution of his career, building Oak Street, and running Blue Owl’s Real Assets platform, it’s no surprise to see why Marc and the firm have had success. His “myopic focus … perfecting his craft,” as he discussed in our conversation, his clarity of vision, and his ability to so clearly articulate his investment strategy and market opportunity have led to tremendous success for Oak Street, and now, Blue Owl.

Marc and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion that covered everything from the evolution of his firm, how and why he sold Oak Street to Blue Owl, the market opportunity in triple net lease real estate investing, why data center investing is a large market opportunity, how to build a high-performing investment culture, and much more.

We discussed:

  • The story of how Marc built Oak Street from a $17M real estate investment firm and grew it into Blue Owl’s $67B AUM Real Assets platform.
  • Breaking down the triple net lease real estate investment strategy.
  • Why the industry “isn’t even in the first inning” in the $20T addressable market in triple net lease real estate investing.
  • Why data centers are a “once in a generation opportunity” due to capex supply / demand imbalance.
  • How a bigger platform can help an asset manager scale its business.
  • Why an evergreen structure can make sense and the story of how Blue Owl did so well with its triple net lease product on a private wealth platform that the private bank created their own product.
  • The hardest part of educating the wealth channel on real estate and evergreen structures.
  • Why private wealth is the biggest opportunity in the future. 
  • The advice Marc would give to someone trying to build the next great asset manager.

Thanks Marc for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and thoughtful and nuanced perspectives on private markets and real estate. 

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1 month ago
46 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Hg's Martina Sanow - unlocking opportunities to invest in Europe's largest portfolio of software and services businesses

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with someone who has successfully built a wealth solutions business tailored to her firm’s unique strengths, expertise, and investment track record.

Martina Sanow is a Partner and Head of Hg Wealth, where she is focused on building the firm’s wealth solutions offering built out of the $85B AUM firm, Hg, that invests in enterprise software.

Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI 300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused mission-critical enterprise software companies. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.

Martina has been at the firm for almost 16 years. She has been an integral part of building the firm into what it is today, helping Hg grow from $2B in AUM to $85B in AUM, previously as Deputy COO and now building the Hg Wealth business. Hg’s first wealth offering, Fusion, its flagship evergreen fund that provides access to non-US investors to Hg’s private equity funds and co-investment opportunities, has exceeded $1B in NAV just 12 months after its launch.

Martina is thoughtful, strategic, and long-term oriented when it comes to building a solution that amplifies Hg’s strengths and resonates with the wealth channel. 

We had a fascinating discussion about how a scaled specialist like Hg can stand out in the wealth channel, unpacking the essence of who Hg is as a firm and how they’ve expressed who they are as they’ve built their wealth business.

We covered:

  • Hg’s evolution as a firm.
  • Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software companies and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.
  • Building a wealth business that fits the mission, ethos, and strategy of the firm.
  • Understanding the complexity of evergreen funds.
  • How Martina and team think about managing dealflow and investor demand in their Fusion fund.
  • Learnings applied from HgTrust, the publicly listed UK investment trust, to figuring out how to educate and build brand in the wealth channel.
  • Why does ownership structure matter when it comes to building a wealth business? How being privately owned informs how Hg builds their wealth business.
  • Why Europe, why now?

Thanks Martina for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of enterprise software, private equity, and private wealth.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.


Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Message from Ultimus, our Sponsor

01:55 Welcome to the Podcast

01:58 Introducing Martina Sanow

04:36 Martina's Background and Experience

05:10 Hg's Specialization in Software

05:57 Building a Team and Culture

06:54 Importance of Cognitive Diversity

07:26 Building a Diverse Team

09:28 Innovating in Wealth Business

10:14 Hg's Strategic Mindset

11:51 Hg's Entrepreneurial Journey

12:00 Maintaining Entrepreneurial Culture

13:10 Specialization in B2B Software

14:47 Focus on DPI and Cash Back

16:17 Criteria for A-Quality Businesses

16:58 Investing in Mission Critical Software

18:11 Visma Case Study

19:23 Challenges and Opportunities in Europe

33:13 Evergreen Structures: Impact on Investment Teams

33:44 Balancing Capital Raising and Deal Flow

34:13 Investment Strategies and Allocation

34:54 Managing Subscriptions and Demand

35:53 Balancing Wealth and Institutional Demand

36:06 Privately Owned Firm Benefits

36:37 Realization Committee and Evergreen Structures

37:52 Long-Term Company Partnerships

39:11 Liquidity Management Challenges

39:55 Investor Strategies for Evergreen Funds

41:40 Institutional Adoption of Evergreen Funds

42:48 Evolution of Institutional Mindset

43:26 Retail vs. Wealth Investors

44:01 Listed Trust and Wealth Business Insights

45:54 Building the Wealth Business

47:29 Strategic Importance of Wealth Capital

48:54 Innovation in Wealth Management

49:28 Partnerships and Holistic Solutions

50:58 Future of Wealth Management Products

52:44 Brand Building and Education

55:00 Software as a Core Investment

56:19 Community and Founder Investments

59:28 Value Creation and Network Benefits

01:00:15 Portfolio Synergies and Acquisitions

01:01:36 Concluding Thoughts and Favorite Investments

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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1 month ago
1 hour 3 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Goldman Sachs Petershill's Robert Hamilton Kelly - riding the waves of change in GP stakes

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s conversation dives into the current state of private markets through the lens of one of the leading GP stakes firms in the industry.

We sat down with Partner and Global Co-Head of the Petershill Group at Goldman Sachs Robert Hamilton Kelly. Petershill takes minority equity stakes in established and newly-established alternative asset managers. Across its different investment vehicles, Petershill participates in the fee income from over 200 underlying funds from alternative asset management firms that are diversified across asset class, investment strategy, and investment lifecycle.

Petershill’s Partner firms have well in excess of $340B in aggregate AUM and they’ve partnered with a number of the top firms and some of the industry's most recognizable names in the middle market and upper end of the market, including Clearlake, Francisco Partners, Permira, Accel-KKR, General Catalyst, Kayne Anderson Real Estate, Kennedy Lewis, and more.

Rob and I had a fascinating conversation on GP stakes and the evolution of alternative asset management. We discussed:

  • The what, why, and how of GP stakes.
  • The benefits and drawbacks of GP stakes investing for GPs and LPs.
  • What makes a great GP.
  • The question of liquidity in GP stakes.
  • Why Petershill has generally focused on middle-market alternative asset managers.
  • How private markets will continue to evolve and the growing importance of the wealth channel in the evolution of asset management.

Thanks Rob for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise in private markets and GP stakes. We hope you enjoy.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.


Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message

01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme

02:06 Guest Introduction: Robert Hamilton Kelly

03:32 Rob's Boat Racing Experience

03:45 Parallels Between Boat Racing and Private Markets

04:57 Current State of Private Markets

05:14 Impact of Policy Changes on Private Markets

06:53 Growth of the Private Markets Industry

07:09 Early Days of Petershill

07:26 Goldman's Role in Alternative Asset Management

09:26 Valuing GP Stakes and Alternative Asset Managers

10:01 Insights on Alternative Asset Managers

12:36 Valuing GP Stakes

13:22 Data-Driven Investment Strategies

15:34 Management Fees and Performance Fees

16:28 Growth and Evolution of Firms

23:16 Strategic Imperatives for Growth

26:15 Managerial Skills and Industry Dynamics

30:55 Commercialization in Platform Management

31:07 Challenges and Opportunities in Capital Raising

31:53 Industry Consolidation Predictions

32:29 Growth and Consolidation in Private Markets

33:31 The Role of Mid-Market Firms

34:15 GP Stakes and Wealth Channel Access

36:12 Goldman's Unique Platform and Services

37:57 The Importance of Strategic Advice

39:39 Common Challenges for GPs

40:33 Evolving LP and GP Stakes Dynamics

40:44 Why LPs Invest in GP Stakes

42:00 Income Generation and Capital Growth

42:49 Diversification in GP Stakes

43:05 Private Markets Exposure

44:01 Entry Points into Private Markets

45:07 Long-Term Exposure and Portfolio Construction

47:00 Investing in Private Credit

48:10 Evaluating GP Stakes Investments

49:38 Data and Performance in GP Stakes

52:04 Growth Path of Private Markets

52:23 Valuing Alternative Asset Managers

55:41 Liquidity in GP Stakes

57:09 Structural Changes in GP Stakes

57:35 The Evolution of Private Markets

58:11 Future of Venture and Growth Sectors

58:56 Private Credit Products and Market Share

59:29 Maturation of Private Markets

59:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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1 month ago
1 hour

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Monthly Alts Pulse Ep. 17: Live from iCapital Connect - IEQ's Eric Harrison and iCapital's Steve Houston on innovative approaches to wealth management

Welcome to the 17th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. 

We were live from iCapital Connect’s conference in Phoenix to dive into the most pressing trends at the intersection of private markets and wealth management —and unpack how wealth management firms are utilizing private markets to build out or enhance their practice.

In this episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, iCapital Managing Partner and Co-Head of iCapital Solutions, Steve Houston, and I are joined by Eric Harrison, Founding Partner of IEQ Capital.

IEQ, managing close to $40B in AUM, has been an innovator from the start. Private markets — and a customized approach to investing in private markets — are a core part of the IEQ offering — and they’ve differentiated the firm as a result.

Eric and Steve shared a number of thought-provoking perspectives on wealth management and how advisors and clients can approach allocating to private markets as part of a holistic asset allocation framework.

Thanks Eric and Steve for a great episode … looking forward to the next Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!

Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:24 Experiences in Private Banking
01:28 Independent Advisors and Private Markets
01:46 IEQ Capital's Approach to Private Markets
03:33 Scaling and Research in Alternative Investments
05:48 Client Experience and Customization
07:35 Technology and Tax Strategy
10:46 Innovative Ideas in Private Markets
13:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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1 month ago
14 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Blue Owl Capital's Ivan Zinn - running the long race in private credit

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with someone who is running the long race — in investing and in running.

We sit down with prolific long distance runner, Blue Owl Capital’s Ivan Zinn, who has been a pioneer in alternative credit and asset-based finance.

Ivan has had a long career in private credit. He started at DLJ before joining Leonard Green & Partners and Highbridge Capital. He then joined HBK before founding pioneering private credit firm Atalaya Capital Management, where he was also the CIO. Ivan and team grew Atalaya to over $10B in AUM from 2006 to 2024 before being acquired by Blue Owl Capital for $450M (and $800M with earnouts).

As part of the transaction, Ivan became Managing Director at Blue Owl and is the Head of Alternative Credit, where the firm is now expanding its footprint due to Atalaya’s expertise. Ivan is as prolific outside of the office as he is in it — he is a long distance runner, running 100 mile races, and was a NCAA All-American tennis player, which comes as no surprise given the discipline, focus and expertise required to excel at the activities he’s done throughout his career in work and sport. He’s also a Board member of the USTA Foundation.


Ivan and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of private credit and the growth of asset-based finance. We discussed:

  • How and why ABF has grown within the private credit ecosystem.
  • ABF’s market structure and a “trip down main street.”
  • The potential size of the ABF market.
  • Why moving assets off bank balance sheets can help the financial system.
  • Why private credit is a data rich asset.
  • Where ABF fits in a portfolio.
  • Why consumer credit is potentially misunderstood within private credit.

Thanks Ivan for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on private credit and ABF. Good luck to anyone keeping up with you on a long run though!

You can also see a recent Q&A with Ivan about private credit and ABF on AGM here.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.


Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Message from our Sponsor, Ultimus

01:57 Introducing Ivan Zinn

03:49 Parallels Between Running and Business

05:32 Early Days of Private Credit

06:52 Post-GFC Changes in Private Credit

07:31 Evolution of Atalaya's Business Model

08:21 Growth of Asset-Based Finance

09:38 FinTech's Role in Private Credit

11:09 Importance of Stable Capital Sources

21:09 Concentration Risks in Private Credit

22:27 Defining Asset-Based Finance (ABF)

22:53 Different Flavors of ABF

27:43 Investor Exposure and Risk in Private Credit

29:46 Direct Lending vs. Public Credit

36:02 Consumer Credit and Perceived Risks

37:36 Debunking the Cyclical Perception of Credit Risk

38:22 The Utility of Credit Cards During Financial Crises

38:44 The Resilience of ABS and Diversified Portfolios

39:07 The Role of Data Science in Credit Analysis

39:32 Surviving the GFC: A Benchmark for Credit Pools

39:53 Diversification in ABF and Private Credit

40:48 Selective Approach to Consumer Credit

41:36 The Importance of Manager Selection in Credit Investing

42:11 Private Market Transactions and Large Announcements

42:40 The Journey from Atalaya to Blue Owl

43:25 Challenges in Institutional Fundraising and Capital Formation

44:20 The Need for Diverse Capital Sources

45:43 Integration and Cultural Fit with Blue Owl

46:16 The Role of Data Science and Innovation in Credit

50:22 The Wealth Channel and Private Credit

50:50 Private Credit as a Fixed Income Replacement

52:34 Transparency and Market Structure in Private Credit

55:55 Educating Investors on Private Credit

57:48 The Evolution and Adoption of ABF

01:00:15 The Growth of Private Credit Market

01:01:28 Challenges and Opportunities in Private Credit

01:03:45 The Importance of Scale in Credit Investing

01:04:28 Vertical Integration in Financing

01:05:26 Relentless Forward Progress in Credit Investing

01:06:31 Memorable Investments and Risk-Reward Balance

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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2 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Lincoln Financial's Jayson Bronchetti - the role of insurance companies in private markets

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with the CIO of an insurance company responsible for more than $300B in assets and a major focus on private markets.

Lincoln Financial EVP and CIO Jayson Bronchetti and I sat down recently at Lincon Financial’s headquarters in Radnor, Pennsylvania to discuss the increasing involvement of insurance companies in private markets.

Jayson, who is a member of Lincoln Financial’s Senior Management Committee and serves as the primary investment officer to Lincoln’s Board of Directors on all investment-related matters, is responsible for more than $300B in assets across the general account portfolio and the separate account mutual fund complex. He’s also chairman of the board of directors of the Lincoln Variable Insurance Product Trust family of over 100 mutual funds. He's also on the board of the Lincoln Financial Foundation.

Fresh off recent partnerships with Bain Capital and Partners Group on private markets investment products and Bain Capital taking a stake in Lincoln’s business, Jayson and I had a fascinating conversation about how insurance companies can approach private markets and how they can build unique and differentiated partnerships with asset managers.

We discussed:

  • The evolving role of insurance companies as LPs in private markets.
  • Why asset and liability matching is a critical framework to allocating to private markets.
  • How the general account of an insurance company creates interesting opportunities for strategic relationships and partnerships with alternative asset managers.
  • The benefit of having a business that works with financial advisors and individuals.
  • The importance of educating wholesalers about private markets – and why insurance wholesalers might have an advantage in educating advisors and clients about private markets products and strategies.

Thanks Jayson for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about private markets and insurance.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.


Show Notes
00:40 Introduction to Jayson Bronchetti

02:20 Sponsor Message: Ultimus Fund Solutions

03:37 Welcome to the Podcast

04:03 Jayson's Background in Private Markets

04:57 Evolution of Insurance Companies in Private Markets

06:37 Symbiotic Relationship Between GPs and Insurers

08:40 Understanding Liquidity and Illiquidity

11:19 Diligencing Private Markets Managers

13:25 Balancing Scale and Performance

14:09 Boots on the Ground: Sourcing Edge

14:42 Evolution of Alternative Asset Managers

14:53 Lincoln's Unique Position in the Market

19:32 Strategic Partnerships with Bain and Partners Group

20:03 The Value of Distribution Relationships

22:14 The Democratization of Alternative Investments

22:49 The Intersection of Private Markets, Wealth, and Insurance

23:10 Approaching Private Markets with the General Account

24:18 Launching Strategies with Bain and Partners Group

24:50 Incubating New Strategies for Retail Consumers

25:16 Building a Customized Investment Strategy

25:45 Designing Purposeful Investment Funds

26:00 Ensuring Accessibility and Proper Wrappers

26:08 Liquidity and Product Matching

26:15 Seeding Strategies with the General Account

26:58 One Lincoln Approach

27:12 Finding Opportunities in the Seams

27:46 Balancing General Account and Distribution Needs

28:07 Product Innovation in the Wealth Channel

28:53 Healthy Tension in Product Design

31:51 Importance of Asset Liability Management

33:05 Educating the Distribution Team

34:47 Training Modules for Wholesalers

36:28 Boots on the Ground: The Power of Relationships

37:45 Simplifying Complex Products

40:44 Democratizing Alternative Investments

41:10 Straddling Institutional and Individual Mindsets

41:35 Integrating Private Markets into Retirement Products

43:13 Future of Private Markets in Retirement Portfolios

43:57 Product Innovation and Technology

45:15 Private Markets in Insurance Products

47:16 Focus on Private Credit

49:38 Risks in Private Credit

50:29 Excitement for the Future of Private Markets

51:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

 

Disclosure from Lincoln Financial

 

Registration statements for each of the evergreen funds have been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are available from the EDGAR database on the SEC's website (www.sec.gov). The information in the registration statements is not complete and may be changed. The securities of neither fund may be sold until its registration statement is effective. An investor should consider the investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses of each fund carefully before investing. This and other information about each fund will be contained in the fund's final prospectus, which investors should read carefully when available from t...

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2 months ago
51 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Krilogy's John McArthur - charting an RIA's growth path by building out private markets capabilities

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode digs into how the CIO of a growing multi-billion dollar wealth management firm thinks about customization and differentiation by building out private markets capabilities.

We sat down with John McArthur, Senior Partner and CIO at $3.6B AUM Krilogy. Founded in 2009, Krilogy provides comprehensive financial planning and investment management services to HNW individuals, families, and business owners.

Krilogy is charting a growth path — and to chart a growth path, John and his team are thinking about how they can thoughtfully grow their business.

With John at the helm as CIO, they have been strategic with their approach to private markets and have increasingly focused on ways that they can create customized and differentiated solutions for their clients.

John took 11 years of experience in wealth management and financial planning at A.G. Edwards & Sons and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney to Krilogy, where he joined his former University of Missouri college football teammate, Kent Skornia, to help quarterback Krilogy and their clients to financial success.

John is thoughtful in his approach to private markets and how to provide solutions to their clients. We had a fascinating discussion about how wealth management is evolving and how private markets are critical to growing a wealth management practice. We discussed:

  • How John and team have grown and scaled an independent wealth management firm.
  • How John approaches private markets — and how that approach has evolved as they work with clients of greater size.
  • How to balance customization and differentiation with scale.
  • How can asset managers effectively educate and provide solutions to the wealth channel?
  • What’s still missing from private markets solutions for the wealth channel?
  • His views on product innovation, including evergreen funds.
  • Advice John would give to wealth advisors looking to invest in private markets.

Thanks John for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on wealth management and private markets.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.


Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Message from our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

01:54 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream

02:06 Introducing John McArthur

03:51 John's Journey into Wealth Management

04:23 The Role of Sports in John's Career

05:47 Lessons from Big Wealth Management Firms

06:21 Krilogy's Growth and Strategy

07:25 Challenges and Opportunities in Wealth Management

07:36 Private Markets and Customization

08:04 Growth Strategies and Quality Control

09:29 Client Service and Organic Growth

11:26 Differentiating Wealth Management Offerings

12:23 Importance of Private Markets

13:14 Creating Customized Solutions

14:53 Educating Advisors on Private Markets

15:54 Volatility and Market Changes

17:04 Private Markets in a New Economic Environment

17:24 Building a Diverse Private Fund

19:50 Client Understanding of Private Markets

20:25 Educating Advisors and Clients

22:15 Behavioral Bias in Investing

23:42 Long-Term Investing Mindset

24:08 Compounding and Diversification

24:41 Challenges in Advisor Education

25:46 Effective Education Strategies

27:01 The Role of Storytelling in Education

27:22 Future of Education in Wealth Management

27:35 Sourcing and Access in Private Markets

28:46 Networking and Building Trust

29:26 Customization and Differentiation in Wealth Management

30:34 Combining Big Brands and Niche Funds

31:47 The Importance of Being in the Game

32:13 Advice for Wealth Managers

32:24 Evergreen Fund Structures

33:16 Navigating the Evergreen Environment

34:29 Portfolio Construction in Private Markets

35:25 Operational Benefits of Evergreen Funds

36:05 Model Portfolios in Wealth Management

36:53 Favorite and Contrarian Investment Ideas

38:49 Real Estate Market Opportunities

39:09 Large vs. Niche Real Estate Managers

39:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


Disclosure from Krilogy

Investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Be sure to first consult with a qualified financial advisor and/or tax professional before implementing any strategy discussed herein.


Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by
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2 months ago
40 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
New Mountain Capital's Steve Klinsky - building a business that builds businesses

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with a private equity pioneer who has seen the industry evolve in the forty plus years he’s spent in private markets.

We sat down with Steve Klinsky, the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of New Mountain Capital, which he started in 1999, and has grown to over $55B AUM with an investment platform that spans strategies across Private Equity, Credit, and Net Lease Real Estate.

Steve was the Co-Founder of the Leverage Buyout Group at Goldman Sachs from 1981-1984, where he helped execute over $3B of transactions for Goldman and its clients. He then joined Forstmann Little and Co. as an Associate Partner and General Partner, helping to oversee seven private equity and debt partnerships totaling over $10B in capital.

He has since built New Mountain Capital into a leading alternative asset manager that has charted a growth path. Yet the firm has remained true to its roots and mindset of its “family business background,” which has informed how New Mountain has partnered with both GPs and LPs, and it's a DNA that is central to their recent rollout of a wealth solutions business.

Steve and I had a fascinating discussion about the evolution of private markets and how to build a leading alternative asset manager that helps build businesses. We covered:

  • How private markets have changed since Steve began in the industry.
  • What it means to build “great businesses.”
  • How the mindset of the “family business background” has helped inform investment strategy and deepening LP relationships.
  • How Steve and New Mountain have navigated scaling the firm while focusing on generating returns for LPs.
  • How New Mountain has approached launching new strategies.
  • The why and how behind launching a wealth solutions business.

Thanks Steve for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on private markets.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.


Show Notes
00:00 Message from our sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

01:23 Podcast Theme and Opening

02:03 Guest Introduction: Steve Klinsky

04:00 Steve's Early Career in Private Equity

05:39 The Evolution of Private Equity

06:55 Forstmann Little and Co. Experience

07:36 Founding New Mountain Capital

08:08 New Mountain's Investment Philosophy

08:25 Family Business Influences

08:56 New Mountain's Cultural Values

09:13 Working with Entrepreneurs and Management Teams

10:15 Scaling New Mountain Capital

13:35 Investment Strategies and Talent

14:45 Opportunities and Challenges in Private Equity

15:03 Mid-Market Focus and Growth Opportunities

16:10 Impact of Industry Growth on Mid-Market Firms

16:50 Product Innovation in Private Markets

18:40 Synergy Between Investment Strategies

20:20 Growth and Future of New Mountain Capital

21:10 Engaging the Wealth Channel

21:40 Building the New Mountain Brand

23:07 New Mountain's Edge and Performance

24:20 Engaging the Wealth Channel

25:50 Customization and Differentiation in Wealth Management

27:17 Strategies for Wealth Channel Engagement

27:39 Productization for the Wealth Channel

28:05 Industry Evolution and Consolidation

28:40 Wealth Channel vs Institutional Channel

29:44 Institutional Side of Private Markets

29:59 Historical Perspective on Institutional Changes

30:47 Challenges and Investment Strategies for the Wealth Channel

32:03 Investment Lessons

34:48 Common Threads in Successful Investments

35:53 Leveraging AI and Technology in Investments

37:56 Value Creation in Services Businesses

38:42 Effective Value Creation Levers

39:38 Growth and Team Building at New Mountain

41:04 Starting New Mountain in 1999

43:00 Navigating Market Turbulence

44:57 Private Markets vs Public Markets

45:53 Lessons from Private Markets for Public Investors

47:47 Importance of Price in Investing

49:24 Building a Strong Team

50:05 Global Investment Strategies

50:47 Future Investment Excitement

51:58 Focus on Wealth Channel

52:13 Growth in Secondaries and Continuation Vehicles

52:42 Industry Evolution and Firm Growth

53:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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2 months ago
53 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Arcesium's Cesar Estrada - data silos and technology integrations in private markets

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today we sit down with a technology and fund services veteran who has worked with many of the industry’s largest asset managers.

Cesar Estrada is Private Markets Head at Arcesium, a global financial technology company delivering pre- and post-investment operations and enterprise data management solutions designed to systematize the most complex workflows.

Arcesium was built from a platform developed and tested by investment and technology development firm, the D. E. Shaw Group, and launched as a joint venture with Blackstone Alternative Asset Management. J.P. Morgan, another large client, later made a strategic investment in the company, helping Arcesium further its mission: to power the entire investment lifecycle.

Cesar is responsible for Arcesium’s data management and investment operations technology and services offered to private markets fund managers and investors. 

Previously, he served as Senior Managing Director and Alternatives Business Head for North America at State Street — a role in which he drove the growth agenda for a business with approximately $1 trillion in Assets Under Administration by leading new product launches, expansion into new client segments, strategic partnerships, and acquisitions. He served on the board of State Street Fund Services Inc. Prior to that, as a Managing Director at J.P. Morgan, Cesar led the Private Equity & Real Estate Funds Services business from launch to $350B AUA.

Cesar and I had a fascinating conversation about the impact of technology and automation on private markets. We discussed:

  • What private markets going mainstream means for pre- and post-investment operations.
  • Why alternative asset managers need to have technology solutions to manage, track, and analyze data and workflows if they want to scale.
  • The biggest challenges that alternative asset managers face as they handle the increase in data management, more funds, and more investors.
  • What technology or workflow solutions are still missing.
  • How much AI will impact technology workflows in private markets.
  • Why ABF has become such an important part of the private credit ecosystem.

Thanks Cesar for coming on the show to share your wisdom and experience in private markets.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.

You can also see a recent Q&A with Cesar on AGM here.

If you want to learn how Arcesium is delivering the technological infrastructure required to manage the complexities of asset-based financing, you can download their white paper here and read thoughts on the asset-based finance space from Arcesium’s Private Markets Head and industry veteran Cesar Estrada.


Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast

00:39 Guest Introduction: Cesar Estrada

02:37 Cesar's Background

02:57 Cesar's Career Path

03:35 Evolution of Fund Services Industry

04:49 Arcesium's Core Competencies

05:06 Technology in Private Markets

05:27 Arcesium's Joint Venture Origins

06:12 Technology Architecture

07:11 Client-Centric Ownership Model

07:18 Building for the Biggest

07:46 Solving Complex Problems

08:44 Challenges and Solutions in Data Management

10:28 Data Silos in Asset Management

10:53 Roadblocks to Technology Adoption

11:41 Operations and Technology Bottlenecks

12:31 Strategic Imperatives for Growth

14:20 Hiring and Strategy in Asset Management

15:55 Point Solutions vs. End-to-End Solutions

17:27 Role of the CTO

18:21 Build vs. Buy Decision

19:22 Investment Team's Understanding of Technology

19:22 The Impact of AI and Future Innovations

20:07 Technology's Leverage for Smaller Firms

21:36 Consolidation in Private Markets

22:22 Technology for Scaling Firms

22:40 Flexibility in Private Markets

23:05 Technology in Private Credit and ABF

25:35 Volume Problem in ABF

25:55 Data Ecosystem in ABF

27:10 Wealth Channel and Evergreen Products

28:04 Product Innovation in Private Markets

28:45 Future of Private Markets

30:05 Technology Selection Process

30:51 User Experience in Technology

31:40 Consumer Experience in Private Markets

33:06 Hands-On Technology Evaluation

33:42 Reducing Operational Headcount

34:02 Gen AI in Asset Management

35:33 Future Impact of Gen AI

36:20 Marrying People and Technology

37:01 Next Phase in Asset Management Technology

39:16 Cesar's Personal Investment Views

40:40 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant. 

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2 months ago
41 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Monthly Alts Pulse Ep. 16: Live from iCapital Connect - the technology perspective of model portfolios and UMAs with GeoWealth and iCapital

Welcome to the 16th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. 

We were live from iCapital Connect’s conference in Phoenix to announce a ground-breaking partnership in private markets: a collaboration between BlackRock, iCapital, and GeoWealth, where models that include both public and private markets exposure through a unified managed account (UMA) are now available to advisors.

I sat down with Jack Hannah, the President & COO of GeoWealth, and Michael Doniger, SVP, Partnerships at iCapital, to discuss the technology and market structure innovation of the UMA and how private markets can play a role in model portfolios.

In this live, unscripted episode, Jack, Michael, and I had a fascinating and lively discussion. We covered:

  • An introduction to the partnership between BlackRock, iCapital, and GeoWealth.
  • Incorporating private markets into UMAs.
  • The private markets integration workflow.
  • Customization and “sleeving” in UMAs.

Thanks Jack and Michael for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!

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Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:34 Evolution of UMAs in Private Markets

01:03 Incorporating Alternatives into UMAs

01:32 Private Markets Integration Workflow

02:41 Challenges and Solutions in UMA Implementation

03:32 Customization and Sleeving in UMAs

04:32 Client-Centric Solutions and Advisor Needs

05:21 Early Adoption of Private Market Solutions

06:17 Building a Robust Model Marketplace

08:37 Future of Model Portfolios and UMAs

13:10 Post-Investment Processes and Technology

14:17 Data Solutions and Performance Reporting

15:06 Growth Projections for UMAs and Private Markets

16:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

16:12 Closing Remarks and Thank You

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2 months ago
16 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Goldman Sachs' Kyle Kniffen - standing on the shoulders of Goldman Sachs to be "a complete partner" for the wealth channel

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with someone responsible for growing the footprint of one of the largest private markets businesses in the industry.

We sat down at Goldman Sachs’ 200 West office with Kyle Kniffen to discuss the evolution of the firm’s work with the wealth channel and how an intensified focus on private markets is helping to drive the firm’s strategic imperatives in asset and wealth management.

Kyle is a Managing Director, Global Head of Alternatives, Third Party Wealth, at Goldman Sachs, which has over $500B of AUM in private markets. He’s responsible for the distribution of both Goldman Sachs private markets products and third party products to the wealth channel.

Kyle and I had a fascinating conversation about the most pressing trends and questions in private markets. We discussed:

  • How lessons learned from traditional asset management have helped Goldman with its private markets business.
  • The benefits of a broad platform when it comes to helping the wealth channel navigate private markets.
  • Why advisors should integrate private markets solutions.
  • How to build a wealth channel business.
  • How to think about evergreen funds versus closed end funds.
  • The next innovation in productization.
  • Why co-investments are becoming more popular with the wealth channel.
  • Are evergreen funds here to stay?

Thanks Kyle for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.


Show Notes
00:42 Introduction to the Podcast and our Guest

02:00 A message from our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

04:06 Kyle’s Background and Journey

04:18 Wealth Channel Strategies and Insights

05:06 Goldman's Heritage in Private Markets

05:28 Client Demand for Thought Partnership

06:13 Public Markets Perspective

07:07 Consultative Sales Approach

07:21 Lessons from Institutional Segment

09:05 Quality of Investment Flow

10:51 Serving the Third Party Wealth Channel

12:53 Client Segmentation and Customization

15:16 Global Reach and Relationship Building

22:43 Product Innovation and Future Trends

27:12 Balancing Client Needs in Alternative Investments

27:47 Who Should Invest in Alternatives?

28:36 Asset Liability and Liquidity in Investment Strategies

29:28 Technology Innovations in Private Markets

30:00 Exciting Progress in Alternative Strategies

30:46 Transparency and Communication in Investments

31:14 The Puzzle of Private Market Structures

31:54 Post-Sale Transparency and Investor Experience

33:27 Engaging Clients Through Brand and Marketing

35:37 Customization in Wealth Management

37:24 Educating Advisors on Private Markets

37:47 Delivering Unique Insights and Education

39:01 Goldman Sachs Investment University

41:09 Lessons from ETFs and Mutual Funds

41:54 The Importance of Performance and Education

43:11 Tools for Advisors and Real-Life Applications

44:06 Understanding Private Markets' Impact on Portfolios

47:19 Excitement Around Private Equity Secondaries

49:02 Advisors' Interests in Tax-Advantaged Strategies

49:47 The Role of Liquidity in Private Markets

50:35 The Importance of Scale in Private Markets

51:38 Future of Private Equity Secondaries

52:14 The Permanency of Secondary Markets

52:52 Conclusion: The Benefits of a Global Platform

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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3 months ago
53 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Fortress Investment Group's Adam Bobker - Combining experience and innovation to build a wealth solutions business

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with a wealth channel veteran who has an innate and developed view of working with wealth.

We sat down in the studio with Adam Bobker. Adam joined Fortress Investment Group in 2022 to build out their wealth business as Managing Director, Global Co-Head of Private Wealth Solutions. He oversees strategy, distribution, marketing, product development, and client management activities across Fortress’ investment programs.

Prior to joining Fortress, Adam was a MD and Head of the Private Wealth Advisory Group at BlackRock, where he spent 22 years. He led a team focusing on private wealth management and institutional consultant channels, as well as business development for BlackRock’s hedge fund, private equity, private credit, and real asset platforms.

Adam and I had a fascinating conversation about how to build a wealth solutions business. We discussed:

  • The entrepreneurial nature of building a business for the wealth channel.
  • Lessons that can be learned from other industries.
  • Why selling into the wealth channel is like being a doctor.
  • Why understanding the DNA of an asset management firm matters when building a wealth solutions business.
  • What Adam looks for in a successful distribution professional and when building a distribution team.
  • How to create scalability and leverage with a distribution team.
  • How to structure products for the wealth channel.
  • How to get into model portfolios.

Thanks Adam for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise in private markets and wealth management.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.


Show Notes
00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

01:23 Podcast Theme Song

02:01 Introduction to Today's Guest: Adam Bobker

02:40 Building a Wealth Solutions Business

03:40 The Importance of Client Relationships

04:09 Understanding Client Needs

05:10 Evolution of Wealth Management

07:04 The Role of Education in Wealth Management

07:14 Innovative Investment Structures

08:22 Model Portfolios and Custom Solutions

13:05 Strategic Partnerships in Wealth Management

17:30 The Importance of Technology in Wealth Management

18:18 Adam's Transition to Fortress

18:36 Building a Wealth Business at Fortress

19:00 Innovative Strategies at Fortress

20:13 Focus Areas for Fortress Wealth Business

21:22 Evergreen Structures in Wealth Management

22:08 Advisor Psychology and Evergreen Structures

23:57 Suitability of Strategies for Evergreen Funds

25:14 Managing Evergreen Funds

27:12 Opportunities in Real Estate Credit

27:55 Investor Hesitation and Education

28:03 Immediate Exposure with Semi-Liquid Funds

28:33 Are Evergreen Structures Better for Investors?

28:39 The Future of Investment Strategies

28:57 Industry Flows and Semi-Liquid Funds

29:20 Impact on Alternative Asset Management

29:29 Consolidation and Strategy Expansion

29:58 Focus on Whole Portfolio Delivery

30:31 Building a Strong Team

31:17 Consultative Sales Approach

31:56 Effective Communication in Wealth Management

32:58 Importance of Brand in Asset Management

33:38 Client Experience and Technology Providers

34:03 In-House vs. Third-Party Services

36:34 Mainstreaming Private Markets

37:24 Commitment to Wealth Channel

39:11 Transforming Investment Strategies

39:50 Art and Science of Portfolio Construction

42:08 Transparency and Liquidity in Private Markets

43:05 Product Innovation and Asset Liability Mismatch

45:45 Evergreen vs. Closed-End Funds

47:27 Evolution of Fund of Funds Business

48:22 Wealth Platforms and Private Markets

49:51 Convergence of Institutional and Wealth Management

51:10 Future of Alternative Asset Management

51:54 Fee Compression in the Industry

53:07 Raising Allocation to Alternatives

55:14 Innovative and Pioneering Strategies 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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3 months ago
56 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Constellation Wealth Capital's Karl Heckenberg - why there will be a $1T independent wealth management firm

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with someone who is an expert on the RIA market and the wealth management business model.

We talk with Karl Heckenberg, the President & Managing Partner of Constellation Wealth Capital, an investment firm that recently closed on a $1B debut fund dedicated to providing differentiated, long-term capital solutions to well-positioned independent wealth management firms in the $8T and growing wealth management sector.

Karl’s deep experience in wealth management as both an investor, from his time as the CEO of Emigrant Partners and its affiliated company, Fiduciary Network, and time on the advisor side at Merrill Lynch, A.G. Edwards & Sons, Wells Fargo, and Charles Schwab, puts him in a position to understand the inner workings of wealth management businesses. He’s also sat on the boards of Sarasota Private Trust Company, New York Private Trust Company, and Cleveland Private Trust Company, and is currently on the board at Alternative Fund Advisors.

CWC has made investments into some of the industry’s leading wealth management firms, including AlTi Global, Cresset Partners, AlphaCore, Lido, and others.

Karl and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of the wealth management industry and why it’s become such an attractive investment opportunity. We discussed: 

  • The intricacies of business growth and serving clients.
  • Why private markets are such a critical component to differentiating a wealth management firm.
  • Why we’ll see a $1T independent wealth management business in the coming years.
  • The parallels between the business evolution of alternative asset managers and wealth managers.

Thanks Karl for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of wealth management and private markets.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.


A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Show Notes
00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

01:18 Podcast Opening Theme

01:57 Introduction to Today's Guest: Karl Heckenberg

03:57 Karl Heckenberg's Background and Career Journey

06:10 Early Days of Wealth Management

07:41 Post-GFC Evolution of RIAs

08:59 Understanding the Independent Wealth Management Space

10:15 Growth and Scale in Wealth Management

12:17 Challenges and Opportunities in Wealth Management

15:02 Importance of Client Experience

19:34 Investment Strategies in Wealth Management

20:07 Ownership and Equity Distribution

20:54 Minority vs. Control Investments

23:08 M&A in Wealth Management

23:23 High-Quality Firms and Client Experience

23:59 Capital Needs and Growth

24:55 Advisory Services and Value Addition

25:32 Comparisons with GP Stakes

27:39 Durability and Resilience of Wealth Management Firms

29:08 Exit Strategies and Public Market Potential

29:40 Valuations and Capital Providers

31:46 Future of Public Market Exits

34:24 Compounding Growth and Returns

35:05 Distribution and Liquidity

35:34 Investment Grade Assets and Equity Returns

35:47 Answering Key Investment Questions

36:38 Investor Concerns and Market Dynamics

36:59 Investment Buckets and Flexibility

37:25 Private Wealth vs Institutional Investors

38:02 Network Effects and Synergies

38:27 Hesitations and Value Add of Constellation

39:13 Collaborative Best Practices

39:43 LP Side and Fundraising Timing

40:08 Understanding the Wealth Channel

40:24 Retail Distribution and Success Strategies

41:05 Product Structuring and Client Diversification

41:19 Impact of Technology on Wealth Management

42:26 Importance of Private Markets Knowledge

43:44 Diversification and Institutional Approach

44:52 Challenges and Opportunities in Private Markets

46:20 Advisors' Education and Differentiation

48:26 Balancing Customization and Scalability

49:32 Operational Efficiency and Retail Products

51:16 Listening to Wealth Channel Needs

51:30 Yield-Oriented Products and Diversification

53:28 Educational Resources and Client Engagement

54:14 Growth of Wealth Channel and Private Equity

55:50 Consolidation and Future of Wealth Space

58:35 Succession Planning and Client Experience

01:04:37 Future of Wealth Management and Private Markets

01:06:05 Closing Thoughts and Future Predictions

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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3 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Monthly Alts Pulse Ep. 15: Live from iCapital Connect - announcing the BlackRock, iCapital, GeoWealth unified managed account partnership

Welcome to the 15th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.

We were live from iCapital Connect’s conference in Phoenix to announce a ground-breaking partnership in private markets: a collaboration between BlackRock, iCapital, and GeoWealth, where models that include both public and private markets exposure through a unified managed account (UMA) are now available to advisors.

I sat down with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital and Jaime Magyera, Managing Director, Co-Head of US Wealth Business, Senior Sponsor for Retirement Business, BlackRock, to discuss the details on their partnership and why a UMA that integrates both public and private market investments for wealth advisors is the next phase of adoption of private markets by the wealth channel.

In this live, unscripted episode, Lawrence, Jaime, and I had a fascinating and lively discussion. We covered:

  • An introduction to the partnership between BlackRock, iCapital, and GeoWealth.
  • Current challenges advisors face when allocating to private markets.
  • Why customization and scalability matters.
  • The market structure evolution.
  • The future of public-private models.

Thanks Lawrence and Jaime for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!

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3 months ago
14 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
EQT's Peter Aliprantis - bringing EQT's success to the US wealth market

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with a private markets veteran who has been working in the wealth channel before it was considered "the wealth channel."

We sat down in the studio with Peter Aliprantis. Peter joined EQT in October 2024 as a Partner and Head of Private Wealth Americas. He’s hit the ground running to build out a wealth team in the Americas and help continue to grow the EQT brand in the US.

Peter brings a wealth of knowledge to the private wealth solutions world, garnering over 25 years of experience in the space. Prior to joining EQT, Peter spent 12 years at TPG Angelo Gordon as a Managing Director, where he focused on new business development and intermediary distribution.

Peter and I had a fascinating conversation about everything from the early days of the wealth channel to the evolution of product innovation in private markets. We discussed:

  • What working in the wealth channel was like before it was called “the wealth channel.”
  • How to build a new brand in a different geography.
  • How not being the loudest voice in the room can be effective when working with the wealth channel.
  • How education helps to serve distribution efforts and how an innovative and unique approach to education with EQT’s ThinQ platform has helped build brand, trust, and credibility.
  • Why institutions are also beneficiaries of the innovation with evergreen structures that were initially designed for the wealth channel.
  • How product innovation will continue in the wealth channel.
  • How model portfolios will evolve.

Thanks Peter for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Message from our Sponsor, Ultimus

01:57 Welcome to the Podcast

02:05 Introducing Peter Aliprantis

02:20 Peter's Career Background

03:31 Early Days in Private Wealth

04:25 Changes in Wealth Distribution

05:55 Post-Financial Crisis Shifts

06:37 Growth of the Wealth Channel

07:14 Building a Wealth Business at Angelo Gordon

07:59 Convincing Firms to Invest in Wealth

08:59 Importance of Investment Teams

10:18 Key Skills for Wealth Channel Success

12:46 Joining EQT and Brand Building

13:07 Building EQT's Wealth Platform

14:56 Brand Building in the Wealth Channel

15:32 Expanding EQT's Presence

16:10 Strategies for Engaging the Wealth Channel

16:45 Segmenting the Wealth Channel

19:57 Challenges in RIA Relationships

20:28 Importance of Relationship Building

21:25 Bespoke Products for Wealth Channel

22:10 Institutional vs. Wealth Channel Products

22:56 Evergreen Structures for Institutions

23:20 Future Trends in Wealth Management

23:27 Becoming a Solutions Provider in the RIA Channel

23:47 Creating Model Portfolios

25:31 The Future of Wealth Management

27:04 Challenges for Smaller Firms

27:38 Importance of Shelf Space

28:35 Sales Strategies in Private Banks

29:42 The Role of Scale in Wealth Channels

30:27 Balancing Growth and Performance

31:07 Global Investment Strategies and Performance

33:13 Building a Brand in the U.S. Wealth Channel

34:29 Differentiating in the Wealth Channel

36:43 Advisory vs. Sales Approach

38:18 Evergreen Funds vs. Drawdown Structures

39:53 Investor Psychology and Evergreen Structures

41:41 Changing Dynamics of Private Markets

43:01 Family-Owned Business Culture

44:30 Nordic Cultural Values

45:15 Long-Term Mindset in Private Equity

45:53 Building the Wealth Business

46:14 Bespoke Products for Wealth Channels

46:42 Seeding Evergreen Structures

47:08 The Race to Win the Wealth Channel

47:29 Manager Diversification

47:08 The Race to Win the Wealth Channel

47:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

 

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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3 months ago
48 minutes

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
KKR's Alisa Wood - innovating in private markets

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode dives into the details of product innovation in private markets with a private equity veteran who has helped to pioneer a new investment structure and working with the wealth channel.

We sat down at KKR’s Hudson Yards office with Alisa Wood, a Partner and Co-CEO of KKR Private Equity Conglomerate LLC (K-PEC).

Alisa has been at KKR for over 20 years. She joined the firm in 2003 and is a Partner. She co-leads the firm’s innovative private equity open-ended, perpetual vehicles serving as the Co-CEO of KKR Private Equity Conglomerate LLC and as a member of the investment committee for the KKR Private Markets Equity Fund.

She was previously the Global Head of the Private Markets and Real Assets Strategies Group and looked after private equity, infrastructure, energy real assets, real estate, impact, growth equity, and customized products.

She sits on a number of the firm’s management and leadership committees, including the Risk & Operating Committee, the Democratized Private Equity Committee, the ESG Committee, and the Geopolitical Governance Committee.

Alisa and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking conversation about private markets and working with the wealth channel. We discussed:

  • Why and how KKR came up with the Conglomerate structure.
  • Why the devil is in the detail when evaluating evergreen fund structures.
  • Why dealflow is essential if a firm wants to have an evergreen strategy.
  • Why education is so critical when working with the wealth channel.
  • How investors can balance evergreens and closed-end funds.
  • The skillsets required to manage evergreen structures.
  • Why culture is so critical when building a high-performing and consistent investment business.
  • The role that private markets can play in a portfolio and why that matters in today’s markets.

Thanks Alisa for coming on the podcast to share your wisdom and expertise on private markets.

Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.

A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions

This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.

To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.

Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.

We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Message from our Sponsor, Ultimus

01:55 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast

02:07 Introducing Alisa Wood

02:14 Alisa Wood's Background and Role at KKR

03:48 KKR's Office and Culture

06:05 Evolution of Private Equity

06:51 Early Days at KKR

08:26 Strategic Moves in Private Equity

12:41 Managing Evergreen Structures

13:58 Operational Complexity in Evergreen Funds

16:59 Deal Flow and Investment Strategies

21:37 Institutional vs. Individual Investors

23:44 Sales Cycle and Investor Relations

26:35 Employee Equity and Financial Literacy

29:41 Evolution of Private Equity Value Creation

30:17 Human Capital and Leadership

30:57 Building Community at Scale

31:59 The Importance of Returns and Connection

32:21 Building Community Through Hard Topics

32:46 Best in Class Advisors and Community Building

33:14 Shifting Business Strategies at KKR

33:47 The Role of Chief Economist and Macro Issues

34:24 Learning from Mistakes and Evolving

35:52 Integrating Resources for Better Investment Decisions

38:08 Strategic vs. Tactical Approaches

38:28 The 40-30-30 Framework

38:52 Challenges in Public and Private Markets

39:25 The Importance of Controlling Investments

39:51 Changing Market Correlations and Returns

40:47 The Complexity of Private Market Choices

41:45 The Role of Large Managers in Evergreens

44:42 Family-Owned Businesses and Evergreen Structures

47:58 Success in the Wealth Channel

49:40 Balancing Illiquidity and Investment Opportunities

50:05 The Psychology of Evergreen Investments

52:51 Growing the Evergreen Business

54:53 The Next Big Innovation: 401k Integration

55:42 The Importance of Education and Community

56:10 Defining Private Equity and Industry Standards

57:23 The Role of Trade Associations and Education

59:17 The Future of Private Market Investments

01:01:23 Real People, Real Money: The Impact of Private Markets

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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3 months ago
1 hour 1 minute

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Alt Goes Mainstream podcast is the place to turn to for interviews with some of the brightest and most experienced minds in the world at the intersection private markets and wealth management. AGM dives into investment strategies like private equity (PE), private credit, venture capital (VC), secondaries, GP stakes, infrastructure, real estate, wealth management, and comprehensively covers tools and frameworks for approaching private markets, such as asset allocation, evergreen funds, model portfolios, and more. For anyone looking to invest into private markets (from experienced wealth managers to family offices to the individual investor looking for a more diversified investment portfolio), you’ll hear inside stories from executives and founders at some of the world’s largest financial institutions, alternative asset managers firms, and wealth management firms. More than a personal finance podcast, Alt Goes Mainstream dives deep into trends, investment strategies, firm building lessons, and innovative technologies that are enabling investors to access private markets.