Featuring: Joe Rojas, Start Grow Manage In episode 124, I sit down with Joe Rojas, founder of Start Grow Manage and author of How Entrepreneurs Thrive. Joe has built and sold multiple MSPs, each time leveraging the power of deep niching to accelerate growth. We talk about the pivotal inflection points in a business’s lifecycle, why niching works across any industry, and how systems and values create businesses that can run—and grow—without the owner. Joe shares his framework for moving from “job” to “business,” the core values that drive his work, and how agencies can increase profitability by solving real business problems for clients. We also discuss the parallels between MSPs and agencies when it comes to client retention, lifetime value, and building a life you actually want to live. Key Bytes • Niching accelerates growth because it clarifies your offer and your audience• The difference between a lifestyle job and a lifestyle business is scale and delegation• Core values must be discovered, not invented—and hiring should be based on them• Profitability can start with your existing clients, not just new ones• Long-term success comes from solving clients’ business problems, not just delivering services Chapters 00:00 Welcome and guest intro01:06 Joe’s journey from the Army to building and selling MSPs03:18 Understanding the “Start, Grow, Manage” stages05:03 Why Joe wrote How Entrepreneurs Thrive06:33 The $1M inflection point and profitability mindset08:16 Helping clients reclaim their time and freedom12:20 Building core values that drive the business16:46 Hiring for abundance mindset and cultural fit21:07 How Joe’s book applies to agencies today24:07 Why technology changes but strategy doesn’t26:08 Expanding accounts by solving deeper problems28:37 Mapping the client journey for better results30:21 Rapid fire questions and closing thoughts Joe is the Founder at Start Grow Manage, based in New York, and author of How Entrepreneurs Thrive. He empowers Managed Service Providers and entrepreneurs to overcome the challenges of business formation to create profitable, growing businesses. As a serial entrepreneur himself, he has faced the challenge of making new and growing businesses work. His career started in the military, where he became an expert in information technology, eventually forming his own managed services company. Through that experience, he discovered the formula for businesses and learned that entrepreneurs are good at what they do but struggle to build a business. Connect with Joe on their website.